Fwd: Re: LikeBack in Amarok

Gary Steinert gary.steinert.ml at googlemail.com
Wed Mar 17 11:26:30 CET 2010


On Tuesday 16 Mar 2010 08:39:17 Ian Monroe wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Gary Steinert
> 
> <gary.steinert.ml at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday 15 Mar 2010 12:45:37 Myriam Schweingruber wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I have already told my disapproval of this in IRC, and will not go
> >> further on that. Time will show I was right.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:23, Téo Mrnjavac <teo.mrnjavac at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> >> >> Almost every complaint about one feature or another was balanced by a
> >> >> compliment for that exact feature. :-)  I'll be happy to answer some
> >> >> of the questions which come through as I'm able.
> >> >
> >> > Cool, thanks Valorie.
> >> >
> >> > I recognize that there are potential drawbacks and risks, mainly with
> >> > fracturing the feedback gathering infrastructure that's already in
> >> > place, but I believe that LikeBack gathers
> >> > 1) a different kind of feedback than the existing channels,
> >> > potentially large quantities of brief context-sensitive one-off
> >> > comments that are not discussions, and should be considered as a
> >> > statistic rather than real bug reports;
> >>
> >> Well, AFAICS, the feedback is exactly the same as the one we already
> >> get in bug reports and on the forum and IRC, and, if I judge from the
> >> mail addresses, it's done by exactly the same people.
> >>
> >> > 2) feedback from a different kind of audience than the existing
> >> > channels, mainly those who are too unexperienced to do a proper
> >> > wishlist entry but still run git or beta builds.
> >>
> >> See above. If you expect feedback from a different audience, this
> >> would need to be in final releases, not in betas or git code, since
> >> the people who actually use the git version are experienced enough to
> >> give feedback through the existing channels. And sorry, I fail to see
> >> what is difficult in using a forum, I see feedback there from people
> >> with close to no experience at all.
> >
> > I would like to introduce a real use-case here. I used to spend quite a
> > lot of time on Amarok. Now, due to starting my own project, that time has
> > been reduced to almost nil. I still run Amarok from git, updated every
> > day or two.
> >
> > The only form of feedback you get from me is reports of bugs that affect
> > my listening experience directly, possibly along with the result of a few
> > minutes spent trying to find the cause of the problem.
> >
> > I have only just updated my checkout to include the LikeBack feature, so
> > it remains to be seen whether I *will* use it or not, but I feel I am
> > more likely to report bugs, and give more general feedback on new
> > features (positive and negative) if I can do so without having to fire up
> > my IRC client or work my way through the behemoth that is b.k.o.
> 
> Well if it discourages people like you from doing some footwork, then
> its not really useful. We don't have a lack of lazy bug reporters.
> 
> I'm more interested in feedback about new features from average users.
> 
> Ian
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I think you misunderstood me. It won't discourage me from doing the footwork I 
am already doing. But it will encourage me to give *additional* feedback.

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