Feature Creep (in a nutshell)

[Milot Shala]

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Seb Ruiz <ruiz at kde.org> wrote:

> On 9 February 2010 23:16, Milot Shala <milot.shala at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > I would like to add something to this topic.
> > Amarok has great features inside I don't think that they should be
> removed,
> > but I suggest that the developers should be more concentrated on
> stabilizing
> > the code, fixing bugs and/or refactoring the code rather than adding new
> > features to it.
> > I am new to the community but long time Amarok user, from my software
> > engineering expertise for several years Amarok can be a feature-bloated
> > software that users will not know what's inside anymore and several of
> them
> > will even not bother using it anymore because with more features users
> will
> > pay the cost during the usage of Amarok.
> > Before adding a feature I think it is a good idea to think hard about a
> > specific feature and making some surveys.
> > Again, I am new to the community and I don't know how you guys handled
> this
> > part until now, but this is my opinion, if I am wrong feel free to
> correct
> > me.
> > Sincerely,
> > Milot
>
>
> Hi Milot,
> In these situations it is not always a case of who is right and who is
> wrong :) Each development team assesses possible features differently
> to the next (some more than others of course). In Amarok, core
> developers are usually left to their discretion when implementing
> features, but will often be subject to discussions or criticism if
> there are thoughts of inappropriate features or potentially better
> implementation methods (as you might have seen around here). Of course
> stablising the code base is an important and noble goal for any
> software project, but it is also worth noting that as a volunteer
> project, it is hard to force someone to do the dirty ugly work.
>
> The only thing we know for certain is that top quoting emails is poor form
> :)
>
> Seb
>

Dear Seb,

Yes you are right, but I wasn't telling anyone that is right or wrong, just
gave my opinion regarding the nice article that Mark pointed here and what I
feel that we should be aware of what was written there, but not removing any
of the features because as we all know, Amarok is a great music player and I
am happy for using for so many years and joined here to help developing it
more :D

Sorry for top quoting my email, gmail automatically does that :)


>
> > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Nikolaj Hald Nielsen
> > <nhnfreespirit at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Personally, I agree that here are quite a few features that could be
> >> removed from Amarok.
> >>
> >> BUT, the thing is, my list of features that are "bloat" are likely
> >> different from everyones elses. So if we removed all that parts of
> >> Amarok that someone does not use, there likely would be very little
> >> left at all ;-)
> >>
> >> This is not an argument for blindly adding everything that someone
> >> wants, but since the perfect music player is different for anyone,
> >> some common ground has to be found.
> >>
> >> - Nikolaj
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Nathan Sala <sala.nathan at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > In my user opinion, Amarok doesn't currently embed "useless" or "out
> of
> >> > the
> >> > pool" features. But I must admit I probably don't know everything.
> >> >
> >> > Could you please let us know what are these features you consider to
> be
> >> > overweight?
> >> > It could be interesting to know it for next moves.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2010/2/9 Mark Kretschmann <kretschmann at kde.org>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Nathan Sala <sala.nathan at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Do you mean you would like to delete some features form Amarok? :=)
> >> >>
> >> >> Not necessarily. Although, to be really honest: Yes.
> >> >>
> >> >> What I find more important though: Watching out that we don't add
> even
> >> >> more obscure features to it. Once you have added them, it's difficult
> >> >> to remove them, due to user outrage (we've had that happen many
> >> >> times).
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Mark Kretschmann
> >> >> Amarok Developer, Software Engineer at Collabora Ltd
> >> >> Fellow of the Free Software Foundation Europe
> >> >> http://amarok.kde.org - http://www.fsfe.org - http://collabora.co.uk
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