Removal of inline playlists controls

Bart Cerneels bart.cerneels at kde.org
Sun Sep 6 16:15:31 CEST 2009


I must say, I didn't see any discussion about this on irc either. I've
been afk for long periods but still. I would think these kind of
decisions are talked about over a period of more then 24h before there
can be anything resembling a consensus.

At the very least I would expect to let have Nikolaj explain what his
plans are with this feature. I also didn't think it was so invasive as
to require immediate removal.

Can we please use this mailing list more often.

Bart

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 15:55, Nikolaj Hald
Nielsen<nhnfreespirit at gmail.com> wrote:
> I just got back to find that one of the features that I have spent
> quite  bit of time and energy on recently have been completely removed
> from git master.
>
> From the commit text:
>
>  "Remove inline playback controls from the application, as discussed
> on IRC. We gathered that this
>   feature did not provide great feature value to the product, and
> instead added redundancy with a
>   third (!) toolbar equivalent. It also increased complexity in an
> already crowded playlist layout
>   configuration UI."
>
> "... as discussed on IRC" : How can you even pretend to have had any
> discussion about this without including th person whow rote the
> featere in question? I call BS!
>
> "We gathered..." : I would very much like to know who "We" is.
> Especially since this commit mail was also forwarded to the amarok
> mailing list, giving the impression that this is an official and final
> Amarok decision.
>
> "...this feature did not provide great feature value to the
> product..." : Honestly, at this point I could not care less about the
> actual arguments for this decision. I am mainly pissed to no end that
> I was not asked. It just might be that I actually have a plan or a
> reason for adding this stuff.
>
> In the past when people have asked me how Amarok was run as a project,
> I have always answered that it was a pretty pure meritocracy, with any
> major issues being resolved in a discussion where all interested
> parties could have a say. This however reeks of a quick and dirty call
> by some of the old guard carefully crafted to exclude me from having
> any say, and quickly published to the amarok mailing list so even if I
> did raise hell it will be hard to revert soince it has already been
> made official. I do _really_ hope I am wrong in seeing it this way!
>
> If this is how things will be done in Amarok in the future, I am going
> to have to seriously reconsider my involvement, as it is just not
> worth the aggregation to get sidelined like this.
>
> - Nikolaj
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