Some user feedback (mostly about the PA browser)

Mario Fux kde-ml at unormal.org
Thu Apr 19 16:57:09 UTC 2012


Am Dienstag 17 April 2012, 13.02:25 schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer:

Morning again

So I reinstalled (with 2012-04-10-10-15-basyskom-plasma-active-testing-mer-
usb-live.iso) and right now we're playing with the browser. It is definitely 
much faster and zooms (with pinch) much faster as well.

> On 17.04.2012 12:14, Mario Fux wrote:
> > Here the mentioned IRC log:
> > [12:46]<unormal>  She tried to use mainly the browser to read some news
> > sites (tagesschau.sf.tv and www.telepolis.de)
> > [12:47]<unormal>  But first the browser was relatively slow (the website
> > quite big) and thus took a while to load.
> > [12:48]<unormal>  And then she had problems with zooming and clicking or
> > tapping the links.
> 
> How did the pinch-to-zoom gesture work for her? I think the image you used
> should already contain Marco's patch which greatly improves zooming with
> the pinch gesture.

Now with the faster browser it works good. Before it was too unpredictable as 
it reacted just after a few seconds.

> > [12:48]<unormal>  I think the mousearea for links is just the link text
> > and thus difficult tap with small fonts. Should probably be bigger.
> 
> I assume this won't be easy to do (especially since we'd also have to avoid
> collisions between nearby links), but it would surely help. How is e.g. the
> Android browser handling this issue?

No idea. But the link hitting problem is still there. Workaround. Zoom in and 
hit again. We had the problem that we weren't sure if the link was tapped or 
not but lamarque then told us on IRC:
[18:44] <lamarque> unormal: if the "reload" button turns into a "X" that means 
the link was tapped.
which helps but the urlbar doesn't always reappear instantly.

> > [12:50]<unormal>  sebas: Zoom triggered as she couldn't tap the link and
> > tried several times.
> 
> So if we can make the links easier to hit, this should not happen anymore,
> either.
> 
> > So I will try the mer image in the next days.
> 
> Would be great to see how big the difference between the images actually
> is. I noticed the painfully slow loading on the Meego images as well.

Worlds.

> > And here some additional feedback. PA looks great, I like it!
> 
> Glad to hear! :)
> 
> > Another idea I had was to use QML news (RSS) thingie. What's the status
> > here? It doesn't seem to be ready yet?
> 
> I've used it successfully on my device. Does it work at all on yours? And
> if so, what's missing?

It works. But sometimes old feeds start to not work anymore and have something 
like "undefined" in the config. Will try again with this mer image.

> > Oh and I like the new "file" browser (I still think "file" is not the
> > right term as IIRC you want to get rid of the file hierarchy paradigm
> > which IMHO goes in the right direction and brings KDE software (together
> > with Nepomuk) in a pole position</endOfLongSideTrack>).
> 
> Yes, this will definitely be renamed before the PA3 release. It's actually
> more of a proof of concept at its current state, since it does not support
> any operation other than "open" yet. And it will also support browsing any
> type of resource in the future, not just files. So the current name would
> not make any sense then, anyway.
> Glad that you like our direction of replacing the file hierarchy with
> semantic data.

Oh I liked it from the start of Nepomuk on ;-).

One last thing about the browser. She told me that the videos on the news side 
"work" now. At least the play button and co are visible but she didn't manage 
to get one loading.

Thx
Mario & Betty


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