[kde] [Bug 455950] New: users don't understand widgets (closing)

David Chmelik bugzilla_noreply at kde.org
Sun Jun 26 13:05:17 BST 2022


https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455950

            Bug ID: 455950
           Summary: users don't understand widgets (closing)
           Product: kde
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: Neon Packages
                OS: Linux
            Status: REPORTED
          Severity: wishlist
          Priority: NOR
         Component: general
          Assignee: unassigned-bugs at kde.org
          Reporter: dchmelik at gmail.com
  Target Milestone: ---

SUMMARY
Users don't understand widgets with no visible way to close (such as battery,
calendar, clipboard, discs & devices, keyboard layout, lock keys, networks,
notifications, night colour, printers, volume, weather forecast, etc.)

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. Accidentally open widget.
2. See no X to close it.
3. Maybe can't use PC without invisible closing expert help.

OBSERVED RESULT
Users don't understand widgets with no visible way to close (such as battery,
calendar, clipboard, discs & devices, keyboard layout, lock keys, networks,
notifications, night colour, printers, volume, weather forecast, etc.)

EXPECTED RESULT
𝘝𝘪𝘴𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦 option to close widgets (not invisible!)

SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Linux/KDE Plasma: KDE neon User - 5.25
KDE Plasma Version: [up-to-date one minute ago]
KDE Frameworks Version: [up-to-date one minute ago]
Qt Version: [up-to-date one minute ago]

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
I administer KDE Neon GNU/Linux PCs for seniors who started using PCs with
MS-DOS & Windows 3.  They do not know what system-tray is (despite being told
100+ times) let alone widgets (despite being told 10+ times) and haven't been
able to learn one must press same area that opened widget to close.  Even I
(BSc CS started with MS-DOS & no Windows) took time to learn.  They're smart
users (science PhD, MA) but you can't expect users who didn't grow up with PCs
to learn more about them than they might about their car engines.  Maybe this
won't be a problem in 50 years but currently billions still don't understand
PCs, and unnecessary pad/tab(let) conventions on desktop are making it hard for
many... so certain older Apple & Windows 3 conventions shouldn't be dropped (X
to close, types of program launcher groups/managers/menus, but I'm diverging
now...)

On top of it all, I noticed KDE Plasma panel is regularly unresponsive, which I
think might've always been case (since KDEP4) though happened more to me when
mining ethereum, etc... now I do use a miner that says it'll take it more
easily because a monitor is detected, though I don't know still slows non-game
usage... I know if I open some number over 10 programs panel halts for hours,
but have to investigate/count how many and whether also widgets not just on my
but users' PCs  (isn't mining during their usage, at daytime.)

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