[kde] [Bug 436394] Daily system updates, each day again and again - KDE Neon Plasma 5.21.4

Duncan bugzilla_noreply at kde.org
Sat May 1 04:21:38 BST 2021


https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436394

Duncan <1i5t5.duncan at cox.net> changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Duncan <1i5t5.duncan at cox.net> ---
(I'm just another user, not a kde dev, but hopefully the below answers some of
your questions.)

(In reply to Alex Evans from comment #2)
> What do you mean use a distro with less updates.
> I am using this OS after moving from Windows to Linux a year ago.

There's many Linux distributions and versions of distributions to choose from,
each with different features.

Some are kept "stable" for long periods (several years, some nearing a decade)
with primarily security updates.  These are typically called LTS or
Long-Term-Stable versions, and often provided by Enterprise distributions. 
Examples are Red Hat, Debian stable, and LTS versions of Ubuntu, SuSE, etc.

Others are designed to follow the latest available upstream versions and are
either rolling distros with frequent individual package updates to the latest
available, or release-versioned, but with releases perhaps every six months and
support for only enough longer than that (maybe a couple months) to give people
time to migrate to the newer version.

Still others are somewhere in between the two extremes above, perhaps having
releases every six months but supporting a release a bit longer, perhaps three
releases worth, so you can skip every other release and upgrade say once a year
without losing support and security updates.

KDE Neon is a "distro" (loosely put) with a special purpose, taking a base
long-term-support distro (an LTS Ubuntu) for most of the system, but putting
the latest KDE packages on top of it.  As a result, while the base system won't
get too many updates, the kde packages on top will be updated quite frequently.

However, as https://neon.kde.org/download shows, there's actually several
variants of neon available as well, user edition which is the latest releases,
some of which update monthly or weekly so you'll might have updates at that
sort of frequency, plus testing, unstable and developer editions, which are
prerelease and will have daily updates of various packages depending on which
ones have new code since the last update.

So if you're on testing or unstable (or developer which is unstable with
developer packages as well), you may find dropping back to the user edition
drops your update rate "enough", while still keeping you current with the
latest kde release versions.

If you're on the user edition already and are still getting more updates than
you like, consider dropping back to a more normal distro, maybe Ubuntu (the
Kubuntu variant of Ubuntu is still a kde desktop) as that's what the Neon base
is, non-LTS if you still want to keep /somewhat/ current, upgrading twice a
year with mostly security updates in between, an LTS version if you want to
upgrade only every year or less, at the cost of getting farther behind between
upgrades since you'll generally only get security updates between upgrades.

Or switch to another distro, perhaps Fedora (a mid-frequency-release distro
that serves as a faster more community oriented Red Hat, which sponsors it), or
OpenSuSE, which is known to be relatively KDE friendly compared to many
distros.  There are of course many other distros as well, many of which have
several variants with faster or slower updates and/or different desktops, etc,
depending on your needs.  I personally run Gentoo because it fits my needs, but
it's a highly technically focused distro that's build-from-sources instead of
pre-built-binaries so it's definitely not appropriate for everyone.  (For
people who want technical but still pre-built, Arch is a better choice.)

> It was NEVER like that before, why do I get now an update every day?

I'd /guess/ you somehow ended up switched from the Neon user edition to the
testing (or perhaps unstable) edition, thus explaining the more frequent
updates.  But that's just a guess.

> Why is my query marked as RESOLVED? In what way is it resolved?

It is marked RESOLVED, NOT A BUG, because it is working as intended.  If you're
on unstable/testing/developer editions, you *WILL* get updates every day or
nearly so because that's how they work.  If you're on user edition, you'll
still get updates frequently, but probably (my guess, as I said I'm on Gentoo,
not Neon) not every day.  Either way, if you believe you're getting too many
updates to handle, there's other, more appropriate distros that should better
meet your needs, with the tradeoff being that you will be running older kde
versions than you have now.

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