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Ha, I was about to reply back with a comment about not knowing that
there even was a Import Audio CD Data option. You beat me to it.
:-) But your previous comments make much more sense in that
context.<br>
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So yeah, your process is different than mine in I've already ripped
my CDs, so I'm just focused on the cataloging. I generally use the
update method you described since I'm starting from a CSV import of
all my albums. Unfortunately, the matching is... not great. For
the albums where I get a choice I can pick a good one, but it'll
often match on a cassette tape or DVD or international version or
just something crazy like that, so I need to do a fair amount of
massaging as I go. I think starting from a search rather than an
update may ultimately save time, as at least that's more likely to
give me a selection of items to choose from, whereas update usually
chooses for me.<br>
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I also switched from musicbrainz to discogs after our last exchange
- I <i>maybe</i> get better matches with discogs (neither are
great), but I like that discogs adds a link back to that specific
release in discogs. Handy for future reference.<br>
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One last thing - have you noticed the Import File Audio Metadata
option? I just noticed that while looking up the CD option. If you
have your rips well tagged, that seems to reliably add the album
with the correct title, artist, genre, year, and track
names/artist/length. May help solve that problem you described with
k3b and tellico returning different results. The thing I don't like
about the metadata import is that it messes up my CD collection
template - adds a bunch of fields I don't want to <i>all</i> items
in the collection. I need to try playing around with that a bit
more and see if I can control that template - if so, this may end up
being the speediest solution, as all I'd really need to do then
would be to search discogs through my browser and copy over the few
additional bits of info that I need. Will still require manual work
on every album, but at least I can be confident that the tracks and
album metadata will always be correct.<br>
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-- <br>
Jared<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/14/21 10:44 PM, J. Allen Crider
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cite="mid:9e054d66-cffe-4650-ebbd-8c49e9132583@cridermcdowellfamily.com">Two
other comments in addition to my last reply. I just realized that
you may not have found the "Import Audio CD Data..." option in
Tellico (it took me a little time to find it also). Use
File->Import->Import Audio CD Data... Because I use it so
much, I have added it to the toolbar so it is easier to find.
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Your reply caused me to try something I've never tried before. I
created a new entry with only the title, medium, and artist. Then
I did an Update Entry on it. I still get a server timeout if I
attempt to update from MusicBrainz, but for my test case, an
update from Discogs did fill in the rest of the information. It
remains to be seen how often that process might work for the rest
of my collection (I've only entered about half of my CDs so far
and none of my LPs).
<br>
<br>
Allen
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On 10/11/21 5:43 PM, Jared wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">Thanks for the reply! I thought about
creating them as separate entries per disc, but I really don't
like that approach - I'm cataloging my music albums, not my
individual CDs, so I'd rather keep them grouped as one entry per
album.
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I'm similarly importing the data for the most part (easy to
generate a CSV file by listing all the album directories to a
file and tacking on stuff like medium), and use musicbrainz to
populate the tracks and album art.
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I like the idea about noting multiple discs and adding comments
for which tracks belong to which discs. Not ideal, but probably
the best way to work around that issue. Very much appreciate
the suggestion - will likely start doing that myself.
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I didn't follow your comment about merging discs, though. If
you have to resort to manually creating the disc, which implies
you're manually filling out the track lists for both albums, why
do that as two separate albums and merge rather than just
creating as a single album? I tried doing that myself to see if
maybe that was some way to "trick" tellico into maintaining two
tracklists, but it just merges it into one long tracklist, so
I'm not seeing what the benefit. I'm sure I'm just missing
something. No big deal either way, just curious about your
process.
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-- <br>
Jared
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On 10/9/21 9:58 AM, J. Allen Crider wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">I haven't found any way to do what I
think you are suggesting, but I haven't looked. If you wanted
to list each disc as a separate album in Tellico, I can think
of at least two options.
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1) You could duplicate the entry for however many disc are in
the album. Then change the title of each entry to add the
disc number, and remove the tracks from the other disc(s).
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2) Rather than using Musicbrainz, you could use "Import Audio
CD Data..." to import one disc at a time. Then you would have
a separate entry for each disc.
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I have a similar problem, but I've chosen a different
approach. If I can find the album using "Internet Search...",
I use that and simply add a comment that tells how many discs
are in the set. But I have a lot of albums that I can't find
using "Internet Search...", so I use "Import Audio CD Data..."
most of the time. I then insert blank rows at the beginning of
the track listing for the second disc (and any subsequent
discs), and then merge the entries. I can then add the
comment about the number of discs in the merged entry. If you
wanted to add more information to the comment, you could
include which tracks are on which disc (e.g. disc 1: tracks
1-12; disc 2: tracks 13-20, or something similar; that is
probably something I should have done but I didn't think of it
earlier). One reason I've taken the approach I have is that I
am also ripping most of my collection as I add them to Tellico
(using K3b) and I rip all discs in a set to the same directory
and then use Kid3 to change the track numbers and file names
so that it will be easier to play the entire album in the
correct order.
<br>
<br>
Allen Crider
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On 10/8/21 9:37 PM, Jared Breland wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">Hello. I'm currently working on
cataloging my music CDs, using musicbrainz as the source. I
have a lot of multi-disc albums, which musicbrainz seems to
recognize and split out, but Tellico lists them only as a
single album. Ie., a 2-disc album with 12 and 8 tracks each
is just listed as 20 tracks in Tellico.
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I'm guessing this is working as intended because I can see
how Tellico would be limited to a single Tracks table, but
still wanted to confirm before i get to far - is there any
way to make Tellico split out each disc into a separate
track list?
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-- <br>
Jared
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