I am for the moment using rkward in linux after a series of frustrations in Vista. I am waiting for windows-7<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:34 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rkward-users-request@lists.sourceforge.net">rkward-users-request@lists.sourceforge.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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1. Quick survey: Still using RKWard for KDE 3<br>
(Thomas Friedrichsmeier)<br>
2. Re: Quick survey: Still using RKWard for KDE 3 (Prasenjit Kapat)<br>
3. Re: Quick survey: Still using RKWard for KDE 3 (Malcolm Hudson)<br>
4. Re: [rkward-devel] Quick survey: Still using RKWard for KDE 3<br>
(Thomas Friedrichsmeier)<br>
5. Call for testing: RKWard 0.5.2-pre1 / Release schedule<br>
(Thomas Friedrichsmeier)<br>
6. Scripts being saved in binary (Patrick Richardson)<br>
7. rkward on ubuntu 9.04 (again)... (alexandre villers)<br>
8. Re: rkward on ubuntu 9.04 (again)... (meik michalke)<br>
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Date: 30 Sep 2009 21:59:53 +0200<br>
From: "Thomas Friedrichsmeier"<br>
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Subject: [rkward-users] Quick survey: Still using RKWard for KDE 3<br>
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Hi!<br>
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I'd like to conduct a quick informal survey to determine whether/when further<br>
backports to KDE 3 are needed.<br>
<br>
1) Are you still using RKWard for KDE 3 (i.e. RKWard 0.4.9x or lower)?<br>
<br>
(No need to respond if the answer is "no").<br>
<br>
2) If so, which version of R do you use with that?<br>
<br>
3) Are there any specific reasons that keep you from upgrading?<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Thomas<br>
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:22:29 -0400<br>
From: Prasenjit Kapat <<a href="mailto:kapatp@gmail.com">kapatp@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [rkward-users] Quick survey: Still using RKWard for KDE 3<br>
To: Thomas Friedrichsmeier <<a href="mailto:thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de">thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de</a>><br>
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Hi,<br>
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On 9/30/09, Thomas Friedrichsmeier<br>
<<a href="mailto:thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de">thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi!<br>
><br>
> I'd like to conduct a quick informal survey to determine whether/when<br>
> further<br>
> backports to KDE 3 are needed.<br>
><br>
> 1) Are you still using RKWard for KDE 3 (i.e. RKWard 0.4.9x or lower)?<br>
<br>
YES. (rkward 0.4.9b, OR the relevant svn branch - depending on developments)<br>
<br>
> (No need to respond if the answer is "no").<br>
<br>
Statistically, it is important to get the "no" responses too ;)<br>
<br>
> 2) If so, which version of R do you use with that?<br>
<br>
Currently, R 2.8.2, but this updates from time to time....<br>
<br>
> 3) Are there any specific reasons that keep you from upgrading?<br>
<br>
Yes: no control over the department's servers. They use RedHat EL,<br>
currently at 5.3.<br>
<br>
[Aside:<br>
I am not sure if RedHat EL 6 will include KDE 4, though SLE 11.0<br>
already has KDE 4.1.3. Do any universities in US (or anywhere else for<br>
that matter) use Canonical for their enterprise Linux solutions?]<br>
<br>
> Thanks!<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
> Thomas<br>
<br>
Thanks for keeping KDE3 port alive. I can totally understand if you<br>
decide not to in future (if yes/(no+yes) << 1).<br>
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Regards<br>
--<br>
Prasenjit<br>
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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 11:18:20 +1000<br>
From: Malcolm Hudson <<a href="mailto:hmhxmu@gmail.com">hmhxmu@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [rkward-users] Quick survey: Still using RKWard for KDE 3<br>
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[rkward-users] Quick survey: Still using RKWard for KDE 3<br>
From: Thomas Friedrichsmeier <thomas.friedrichsmeier@ru...> - 2009-09-30 20:00<br>
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Hi!<br>
<br>
I'd like to conduct a quick informal survey to determine whether/when further<br>
backports to KDE 3 are needed.<br>
<br>
<br>
1) Are you still using RKWard for KDE 3 (i.e. RKWard 0.4.9x or lower)?<br>
<br>
YES. RKWard 0.4.9 (KDE 3.4.9)<br>
<br>
2) If so, which version of R do you use with that?<br>
<br>
R version 2.6.2 (2008-02-08)<br>
<br>
3) Are there any specific reasons that keep you from upgrading?<br>
<br>
Haven't yet upgraded to Mandriva 2009.1 (currently using Mandriva<br>
2008.1 which uses KDE 3).<br>
Will need some time to plan how to upgrade smoothly.<br>
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Thanks!<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Thomas<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: 6 Oct 2009 22:44:50 +0200<br>
From: "Thomas Friedrichsmeier"<br>
<<a href="mailto:thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de">thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [rkward-users] [rkward-devel] Quick survey: Still using<br>
RKWard for KDE 3<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
thanks for your feedback (also to Michael and Malcolm).<br>
<br>
On Wednesday 30 September 2009, Prasenjit Kapat wrote:<br>
> > 1) Are you still using RKWard for KDE 3 (i.e. RKWard 0.4.9x or lower)?<br>
><br>
> YES. (rkward 0.4.9b, OR the relevant svn branch - depending on<br>
> developments)<br>
><br>
> > (No need to respond if the answer is "no").<br>
><br>
> Statistically, it is important to get the "no" responses too ;)<br>
<br>
True. But mostly I was interested in the follow-up questions. To explain: As<br>
far as new developments are concerned, the KDE 3 branch is closed. Probably<br>
we'll copy the latest changes in plugins to the KDE 3 branch, since plugins<br>
are still (but not for very much longer) compatible. But other than that it's<br>
only important bugfixes. And since the KDE 3 branch been around for this long,<br>
any new "important" bugs are mostly going to be incompatibilities with new<br>
versions of R.<br>
<br>
> > 2) If so, which version of R do you use with that?<br>
><br>
> Currently, R 2.8.2, but this updates from time to time....<br>
<br>
Ok, but that means the installation is typically some months behind, so we<br>
probably don't have to release 0.4.9c on time with R 2.10.0. I guess, we<br>
should soon after, but it's just more comfortable to do only one release at a<br>
time. So 0.5.2 will go first.<br>
<br>
> > 3) Are there any specific reasons that keep you from upgrading?<br>
><br>
> Yes: no control over the department's servers. They use RedHat EL,<br>
> currently at 5.3.<br>
<br>
Ok. To explain a bit about this one, I was poking for barriers that we might<br>
be able to address inside RKWard. I'm afraid your department's servers are not<br>
something I can do anything about, though ;-).<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Thomas<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: 7 Oct 2009 19:06:25 +0200<br>
From: "Thomas Friedrichsmeier"<br>
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Subject: [rkward-users] Call for testing: RKWard 0.5.2-pre1 / Release<br>
schedule<br>
To: <a href="mailto:rkward-devel@lists.sourceforge.net">rkward-devel@lists.sourceforge.net</a><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:rkward-users@lists.sourceforge.net">rkward-users@lists.sourceforge.net</a><br>
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Hi!<br>
<br>
R 2.10.0 (scheduled to be released October, 26) will have a new dynamic help<br>
system, and unfortunately the current released versions of RKWard do no handle<br>
that well. Therefore I'd like to provide a new official release of RKWard in<br>
time.<br>
<br>
I've drafted a tentative timeline at<br>
<a href="http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/rkward/index.php?title=Release_Schedule" target="_blank">http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/rkward/index.php?title=Release_Schedule</a><br>
. The targetted release date is October 20. That's fairly soon, but I feel the<br>
sources are in relatively good shape. Of course we still need a lot of<br>
testing, and that's the main point of this mail:<br>
<br>
--- Testing ---<br>
<br>
Please download the 0.5.2-pre1 release (also linked to from<br>
<a href="http://p.sf.net/rkward/download" target="_blank">http://p.sf.net/rkward/download</a>) and give it a try. If you have an alpha<br>
version of R 2.10.0 installed, or are willing to install one, testing with<br>
that will be particularily valuable. Please try to browse a few help pages,<br>
and produce some output. Also, if compiling from sources, please run<br>
make plugintests<br>
after make install, and report any failed tests.<br>
<br>
Please try to provide feedback by October 14, i.e. a week from now.<br>
<br>
--- Translators ---<br>
<br>
.po and .pot files are located in the po-subdirectory, as usual. Please provide<br>
your updates by October 14.<br>
<br>
--- Plugin authors ---<br>
<br>
If you plan to add features to existing plugins before the release, please<br>
post to the mailing list, first. @Michael: I did not forget about you, and will<br>
provide feedback as soon as I can. I'm confident that the Stata-import plugin<br>
will be part of the official release. Please remember to prepare a small sample<br>
file that we can add to the sources for automated testing.<br>
<br>
You may be wondering what's up with the promised new scripting solution. Well,<br>
the first part of it is ready for evaluation/discussion/feedback, and I'll<br>
write a separate mail on this in the coming days. However, this will not be<br>
finished in time for the release, so plugins continue to be PHP-based in RKWard<br>
0.5.2.<br>
<br>
--- Closing words ---<br>
<br>
Remeber: There's always many ways you can help, with or without programming<br>
skills. Testing is one important way to contribute, but for instance our wiki<br>
/ website is always in need of love as well. If you have time to spare, your<br>
help will be very welcome.<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
Thomas<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:27:11 -0400<br>
From: Patrick Richardson <<a href="mailto:xplaner801@comcast.net">xplaner801@comcast.net</a>><br>
Subject: [rkward-users] Scripts being saved in binary<br>
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I'm running rkward-0.5.1 on Ubuntu 9.04. Although I love this program, I<br>
can't seem to get my scripts to save properly. When I click "Save" I get<br>
a warning message that the file will be saved as binary. Has anyone else<br>
had this problem or know how to get rid of it?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Patrick<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:45:40 +0200<br>
From: "alexandre villers" <<a href="mailto:alexandre.villers@cebc.cnrs.fr">alexandre.villers@cebc.cnrs.fr</a>><br>
Subject: [rkward-users] rkward on ubuntu 9.04 (again)...<br>
To: <a href="mailto:rkward-users@lists.sourceforge.net">rkward-users@lists.sourceforge.net</a><br>
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Good evening,<br>
<br>
I had trouble a couple of months ago when installing Rkward and Thomas provided me with some command lines to get an unbroken version of Rkward<br>
<br>
"sudo echo "deb <a href="http://reaktanz.de/deb/rkward" target="_blank">http://reaktanz.de/deb/rkward</a> jaunty main" ><br>
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/rkward.list<br>
sudo apt-get update<br>
sudo apt-get install rkward "<br>
<br>
Unfortunately, I had to reinstall Ubuntu and those lines don't work anymore. I get<br>
<br>
A Fatal Error Occurred<br>
The application RKWard (rkward) crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT).<br>
Please help us improve the software you use by filing a report at <a href="http://bugs.kde.org" target="_blank">http://bugs.kde.org</a>. Useful details include how to reproduce the error, documents that were loaded, etc.<br>
<br>
Any idea ?<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
<br>
Alex, Ubuntu beginner<br>
Alexandre Villers<br>
PhD. Student<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:34:24 +0200<br>
From: meik michalke <<a href="mailto:meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de">meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [rkward-users] rkward on ubuntu 9.04 (again)...<br>
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hi alex,<br>
<br>
am Donnerstag, 22. Oktober 2009 (22:45) schrieb alexandre villers:<br>
> Unfortunately, I had to reinstall Ubuntu and those lines don't work<br>
> anymore.<br>
<br>
please explain what you mean by "don't work anymore" (i'm the one behind the<br>
<a href="http://reaktanz.de" target="_blank">reaktanz.de</a> repository). did anything produce an error during the process?<br>
<br>
what ist the outcome of the following commands:<br>
cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/rkward.list<br>
R --version<br>
rkward --version<br>
<br>
<br>
viele gr??e :: m.eik<br>
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--<br>
dipl. psych. meik michalke<br>
institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie<br>
abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie<br>
heinrich-heine-universit"at<br>
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