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<p style="margin-top: 0;">On June 11th, 2013, 6:38 p.m. UTC, <b>Gilles Caulier</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">libraw detection can be not enough.
if you look in libkdcraw, you will see RawSpeed code backported too.
http://rawstudio.org/blog/?p=800
This code is to speed up raw data extraction. It's not to process demosaicing.
Here on my linux Mageia, librawspeed is not available. I don't know if other distro support this library.
LibRaw < 0.15 will not support RawSpeed. You must take a care about. In this case RawSpeed must be disabled.
Also, settings from raw decoding container and widget have been validated with libraw 0.15.x. So do not accept an older version of libraw, else there will be serious problems...
Gilles Caulier</pre>
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<p>On June 11th, 2013, 7:26 p.m. UTC, <b>Pino Toscano</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">> if you look in libkdcraw, you will see RawSpeed code backported too.
Yet another copy of some 3rd party source?! Sigh.... It would be really helpful if your development way would not start by embedding some 3rd party library in the sources of some KDE application/library...
For the rest: OK, it is fine to accept only LibRaw >= 0.15. (I suspect they would work the same, but oh well...)</pre>
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<p>On June 11th, 2013, 8:08 p.m. UTC, <b>Gilles Caulier</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">The reason to include libraw is simple : libraw API change agian and again, and i don't won't to puzzle libkdcraw source code with an amount of conditional rules. As i'm in contact with libraw team, i'm aware of plan and this is why i take a care to not have a shared component as libkdcraw which provide a broken binary compatibility with a lots of crash... Just my experience.
Typicially, libraw as experiental code which are tested and removed if to much problem are reported...
There is also another problem : how to be sure that 3rd party codec from libraw are compiled in shared version of system : There are 2 packs : one GPL2, one GPL3. These packages add new demosaicing methods and camera support. If libraw is not compiled with these components some parts of libkdcraw will not work as well. This will be very problematic for end users...
This is another reason about libraw inclusion in libkdcraw. Like this i'm sure that all features are included...
Libraw is a big puzzle. Take a care...
Gilles Caulier</pre>
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<p>On June 11th, 2013, 8:23 p.m. UTC, <b>Pino Toscano</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">If the API changes, then the version macros can be used to keep compatibility with multiple versions; it seems the libraw people are not breaking the API much lately, so hopefully the libkdcraw code won't be filled with a lot of these checks.
Regarding the binary compatibility: if the libraw people bump SONAME/SOVERSION whenever the ABI changes, that's perfectly fine and will not cause issues (maybe just to self-compiling users which have no clue on what they are doing). If they break ABI without handling SONAME/SOVERSION bumps, that's their fault which they ought to solve.
Regarding the extra packs: are those compiled/provided by default to libraw users? If they could cause licensing issues/incompatibilities, then compiling them as part of libkdcraw will *not* change their situation.</pre>
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<p>On June 11th, 2013, 8:35 p.m. UTC, <b>Gilles Caulier</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Extra GPL2/GPL3 pack are not included in libraw in standard due to mixing licensing problem. It's separated packages. So distro packagers must take a care about and compile all as well.
It's the same problem with RawSpeed which use another licensing than libraw core...
Gilles Caulier</pre>
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<p>On June 11th, 2013, 8:45 p.m. UTC, <b>Pino Toscano</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">So the inclusion of these packs in libkdcraw *is* creating a licensing issue to distro packagers already? Great...
Gilles: putting everything in one source (libkdcraw) does not make
a) licensing issues
b) incompatibilities
c) shipping issue
go away at the same time, as you're creating new issues instead.
Now, if you could help testing this in the way you like, we could cleanup all this embedding mess in libkdcraw. Thank you.</pre>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">>go away at the same time, as you're creating new issues instead.
Certainly not ! I creating something which work as we can with this big puzzle. It's work, and it's my first priority.
Licensing problem is another stuff. It's not a technical issue. Don't mix everything...
Gilles Caulier</pre>
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<p>- Gilles</p>
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<p>On June 11th, 2013, 5:50 p.m. UTC, Pino Toscano wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for KDE Graphics, Release Team and Gilles Caulier.</div>
<div>By Pino Toscano.</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated June 11, 2013, 5:50 p.m.</i></p>
<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Instead of using an embedded copy of LibRaw, look for an external LibRaw as mandatory dependency with a new CMake module and using its variables.
Considering some LibRaw versions seem to be underlinked and not linking to OpenMP, link it manually in libkdcraw to overcome such lack.
Switch back to the MAKE_KDCRAW_LIB define (i.e. the default set by KDE4_ADD_LIBRARY) as the one used to check whether it is being built, as otherwise LIBRAW_BUILDLIB would conflict with LibRaw.
Once this RR is approved, I will remove the libraw code copy and the CMake modules (FindLCMS2.cmake and FindPthreads.cmake) needed for it.</pre>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Compiles fine with both LibRaw 0.14.7 and 0.15.1.</pre>
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<b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Bugs: </b>
<a href="http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307146">307146</a>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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<li>CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: grey">(f2f269609feb10947ec3bac10125b379c6c821dd)</span></li>
<li>cmake/modules/FindLibRaw.cmake <span style="color: grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>
<li>libkdcraw/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: grey">(cce5d6dba690fb5182638ccd1f10488bbd6ec2ce)</span></li>
<li>libkdcraw/libkdcraw_export.h <span style="color: grey">(1a222a03502a0e068bdba4f03b7ff4961c4a8f2b)</span></li>
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