To get a clear picture then, our early tar builds should be completely hidden (not possible on our server), even-though no regular user has access to them, and any bugs found in the early tars (not build related) should be kept quiet, until the tars are officially announced. It is better to have final tars that have bugs that were known for a few days, than reporting.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Martin Gräßlin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mgraesslin@kde.org" target="_blank">mgraesslin@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On Tuesday 12 February 2013 19:25:46 Myriam Schweingruber wrote:<br>
> Hi Anke,<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Anke Boersma<br>
><br>
> <<a href="mailto:abveritas@chakra-project.org">abveritas@chakra-project.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > But this is the exact point I'm trying to make. Educate early testers to<br>
> > report any issues they find within the distro. We have done that for 3<br>
> > years, and is well known and accepted by our testers (this includes<br>
> > testing<br>
> > all beta and rc builds for Chakra).<br>
><br>
> I think the point is: we don't have enough testers for the Beta and RC<br>
> release, if these people would join the Quality Team during testing<br>
> this would be far more valuable than only for the final tarball. So<br>
> far we are only a handful, and maybe you have testers that do test but<br>
> they don't report upstream, nor do they coordinate with us. The KDE<br>
> Quality team would welcome a few more hands for that, for the final<br>
> tarball it's just a bit late IMHO.<br>
</div>+1000 - that's exactly the point. We don't need the testers when the final<br>
tarballs are already done, we need them months before. And if you have many<br>
testers for your beta packages you also get most of the distro issues early.<br>
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