Why are 4.8.80 packages already out in the wild?

Albert Astals Cid aacid at kde.org
Sun Jun 3 18:40:42 UTC 2012


El Diumenge, 3 de juny de 2012, a les 20:34:55, Andrea Scarpino va escriure:
> On Jun 3, 2012 8:08 PM, "Martin Gräßlin" <mgraesslin at kde.org> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > this weekend KWin received bug reports against 4.8.80 from distro packages
> > ([1], [2]). This quite surprised me as beta should not be out before
> 
> Monday.
> 
> > Now I concider this as an issue if users can report bugs for a version we
> 
> do
> 
> > not yet expect. E.g. in KWin I had not yet created the version
> 
> information - I
> 
> > wanted to do this on Monday after the release. Because of that bug 301068
> 
> had
> 
> > been reported incorrectly against 4.8.2 which quite confused me.
> > 
> > For Beta 1 this seems not so much an issue, but for Beta 2 such too early
> > releases can waste quite some time. Consider we don't notice and
> 
> investigate
> 
> > why a bug fix did not work? And even if we notice we have to spend time
> 
> asking
> 
> > the user to verify which version was actually in use.
> > 
> > So I would like to know, what's the reason why distros ship the packages
> 
> too
> 
> > early and whether we find it acceptable that distros ship the packages too
> > early.
> 
> Well...In Arch I released the packages some hour before  Tom's thread about
> calling off beta1. 

You mean me, not Tom.

> You guys decided to delay it only, so I kept the
> packages in the unstable repo to let our devs test them, but I didn't
> announce them.
> I guess the "Install KDE 4.9" wiki page on techbase did the rest.
> 
> Anyway, if you want to blame someone I guess you should blame users not us.

Come on, you put your packages available before the official tar files are 
available in the ftp and you're saying you did nothing wrong?

Albert

> 
> Cheers


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