<div dir="ltr">Hi Jonathan,<div>just a short note this evening, saying that I changed my mind about your password generation. It's not the feature that was not properly convincing me, but the UI. So, I'd like to work on it to try improving it a bit more.</div>
<div>Stay tuned!</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/11/14 Jonathan Verner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jonathan.verner@matfyz.cz" target="_blank">jonathan.verner@matfyz.cz</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Andrea,<div><br></div><div>sure, it was really only a quick hack/proof of concept and I am not too attached to it :-). It has several shortcomings; overcoming them would have involved much more time than I was willing to invest in this "hack". I have now looked at how other browsers do it:</div>
<div><br></div><div>Safari: <a href="http://www.macworld.com/article/2058081/how-to-use-icloud-keychain.html" target="_blank">http://www.macworld.com/article/2058081/how-to-use-icloud-keychain.html</a> (see the Generate a password section)</div>
<div>Chrome: <a href="https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/developers/design-documents/password-generation" target="_blank">https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/developers/design-documents/password-generation</a> (in development?)</div>
<div>Firefox: only through extensions (e.g. <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/cs/firefox/addon/secure-password-generator/" target="_blank">https://addons.mozilla.org/cs/firefox/addon/secure-password-generator/</a>)</div>
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<div>I tend to like the Chrome approach, although discoverability is probably not as good. The Safari approach (similar to my current one), doesn't allow for pwd customization. What do you think? I don't have experience with UI design and, obviously, I am not the right person to see the usability shortcomings since I know pretty well what I want from the feature :-)</div>
<div><br></div><div>Or, of course, you might decide, that the feature is not worth the trouble and I will keep using the command line utility pwgen (after all, it is not such a big deal). Or I'll wait for extension support to arrive and then write an extension :-)</div>
<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Jonathan</div><div><br></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/11/13 andrea diamantini <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adjam7@gmail.com" target="_blank">adjam7@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Jonathan,<div>I'm a bit unsure about this patch. While this surely solves your "special" case, what about the average user? I let my wife trying it and she couldn't understand the need for it and how it really woks. Perhaps she is a bit lower than average ;)</div>
<div>I'd like to hear someone else opinion about.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/11/10 Jonathan Verner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jonathan.verner@matfyz.cz" target="_blank">jonathan.verner@matfyz.cz</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Hello,<br>
<br>
for some time now, I have been using the pwgen utility to generate<br>
random passwords for all the different web accounts I register.<br>
While this works it would be much nicer to have this integrated into<br>
the browser. So this past Saturday I sat down and implemented a<br>
proof of concept integration for rekonq (see attached patch).<br>
<br>
My implementation adds a "Generate random password" context menu action when<br>
the menu is shown above a password input field. This action<br>
<br>
1. generates a random password of length 20 chars<br>
2. fills in the password input field with the password<br>
3. iterates over all password fields in the same form<br>
and fills them with the password (since registration<br>
forms often have a confirm password field)<br>
4. copies the password to the clipboard<br>
<br>
The generator uses qrand to generate the passwords, which are alphanumeric. It<br>
tries to use /dev/urandom or, if not available, the number of milliseconds<br>
since 1/1/1970 to seed the random number generator on first use.<br>
<br>
What do you think?<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Jonathan Verner<br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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