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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Looks like my first message didn't make it into the list yet, this was in response to my:</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">> <span>I find it a useful indication of how common an issue really is and hence
how important it is to solve, and am surprised that some would not. How
else are users supposed to express that a bug affects them, without
creating duplicates and "me too" comments which I as a submitter would
think of as spammy?</span><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Re. "I am an adult, I can set my own priorities"; I can see how that rationale applies to contributors who do this for fun, but at least as far as I'm concerned, I want an objective indication of what tasks have priority, and minimum number of peope affected as indicated by votes is one such measure.<br></div>
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Am Samstag, 5. August 2023 um 20:00:13 MESZ hat Natalie Clarius <natalie_clarius@yahoo.de> Folgendes geschrieben:
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Am Samstag, 5. August 2023 um 13:00:24 MESZ hat plasma-devel-request@kde.org <plasma-devel-request@kde.org> Folgendes geschrieben:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Send Plasma-devel mailing list submissions to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:plasma-devel@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:plasma-devel@kde.org">plasma-devel@kde.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:plasma-devel-request@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:plasma-devel-request@kde.org">plasma-devel-request@kde.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You can reach the person managing the list at<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:plasma-devel-owner@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:plasma-devel-owner@kde.org">plasma-devel-owner@kde.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir="ltr">than "Re: Contents of Plasma-devel digest..."<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Today's Topics:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> 1. Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make<br></div><div dir="ltr"> decisions? (Nate Graham)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 2. Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make<br></div><div dir="ltr"> decisions? (Fusion Future)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 3. Plasma plasma-desktop 5.27.7.1 update (Jonathan Riddell)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 4. Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make<br></div><div dir="ltr"> decisions? (Harald Sitter)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 07:52:36 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Nate Graham <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:nate@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nate@kde.org">nate@kde.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: kde-devel <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:kde-devel@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:kde-devel@kde.org">kde-devel@kde.org</a>>, Plasma <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:plasma-devel@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:plasma-devel@kde.org">plasma-devel@kde.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make<br></div><div dir="ltr"> decisions?<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:fec41dfd-9b30-2961-4fa2-673b6d9a9e76@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:fec41dfd-9b30-2961-4fa2-673b6d9a9e76@kde.org">fec41dfd-9b30-2961-4fa2-673b6d9a9e76@kde.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hello folks!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets <br></div><div dir="ltr">are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help <br></div><div dir="ltr">prioritize work. After I explain this, they generally express surprise, <br></div><div dir="ltr">as it's not obvious.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I find myself wondering whether it would make sense to disable the <br></div><div dir="ltr">voting feature by default to avoid giving our users this false impression.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">So if you *do* take user votes into consideration when determining what <br></div><div dir="ltr">tickets to prioritize, I'd like to hear from you!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Nate<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 2<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 21:57:16 +0800<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Fusion Future <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:qydwhotmail@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:qydwhotmail@gmail.com">qydwhotmail@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Nate Graham <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:nate@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nate@kde.org">nate@kde.org</a>>, kde-devel <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:kde-devel@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:kde-devel@kde.org">kde-devel@kde.org</a>>, Plasma<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:plasma-devel@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:plasma-devel@kde.org">plasma-devel@kde.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make<br></div><div dir="ltr"> decisions?<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:157fcc1b-c3d6-40b7-aa44-d05baa0ead10@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:157fcc1b-c3d6-40b7-aa44-d05baa0ead10@gmail.com">157fcc1b-c3d6-40b7-aa44-d05baa0ead10@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I do vote on Bugzilla, but given the limited development resource, I <br></div><div dir="ltr">find vote less useful than the number of duplicates or CCs.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 3<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 15:42:45 +0100<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Jonathan Riddell <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:jr@jriddell.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:jr@jriddell.org">jr@jriddell.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: kde-announce@kde.org, KDE release coordination<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:release-team@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:release-team@kde.org">release-team@kde.org</a>>, plasma-devel <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:plasma-devel@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:plasma-devel@kde.org">plasma-devel@kde.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Plasma plasma-desktop 5.27.7.1 update<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <CANX=XXM2m0OpZS7ZoKfxUAUj0sgm=UHRTntjJoA6u1eFwu3Mrg@mail.gmail.com><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">plasma-desktop now has plasma-desktop-5.27.7.1 tar available to download<br></div><div dir="ltr">for packaging<br></div><div dir="ltr">sha256sum: 51626674ce4324ac424fded716862da967e6b33a898108b49fa27a7896d1bec2<br></div><div dir="ltr">Git commit: d9f39abdb402a81465dca79c791a229778e97efb<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://kde.org/info/plasma-5.27.7/">https://kde.org/info/plasma-5.27.7/</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/attachments/20230804/4d07705f/attachment-0001.htm">http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/attachments/20230804/4d07705f/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 4<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 23:55:26 +0200<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Harald Sitter <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:sitter@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:sitter@kde.org">sitter@kde.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: kde-devel <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:kde-devel@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:kde-devel@kde.org">kde-devel@kde.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Plasma <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:plasma-devel@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:plasma-devel@kde.org">plasma-devel@kde.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make<br></div><div dir="ltr"> decisions?<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <CAEc+18ECSq_WjkJsqaUtf47KP7qW=_3WK+KGqE8tHD7gKMm5Lg@mail.gmail.com><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Never looked at them. Never seen the benefit.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 3:53 PM Nate Graham <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:nate@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nate@kde.org">nate@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hello folks!<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets<br></div><div dir="ltr">> are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help<br></div><div dir="ltr">> prioritize work. After I explain this, they generally express surprise,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> as it's not obvious.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I find myself wondering whether it would make sense to disable the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> voting feature by default to avoid giving our users this false impression.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> So if you *do* take user votes into consideration when determining what<br></div><div dir="ltr">> tickets to prioritize, I'd like to hear from you!<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Nate<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Digest Footer<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">Plasma-devel mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:Plasma-devel@kde.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Plasma-devel@kde.org">Plasma-devel@kde.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">End of Plasma-devel Digest, Vol 182, Issue 4<br></div><div dir="ltr">********************************************<br></div></div>
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