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<li class="remarkup-list-item">Acknowledging user feedback: we've had a bunch of complaints about the thin scrollbars.</li>
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<p>With all due respect: <br />
This is irrelevant unless you do an actual poll. <br />
You will have user feedback that want the thin scrollbar back. (I will).</p>
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<li class="remarkup-list-item">Usability: even though the click area was the same size for the thin inactive scrollbars, it didn't <em>look</em> as large. This can make people subconsciously position their cursors more precisely than they need to</li>
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<p>my complain here is that this argument was either not made or discarded, when the first switch to thin scrollbar was done. <br />
This is my main concern about this change: the going back and forth using adhoc arguments each time to justify the change, often contradicting each other. It means essentially that we either don't know what we are doing, or dont think our changes enough. This is bad imo</p>
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<li class="remarkup-list-item">If we draw a separator line but keep the thin scrollbar, then the track looks much too wide because the thin inactive scroll handle looks lost in the wide track. But we can't make the track narrower since it has to accommodate the scroll handle's thicker expanded width too. Much simpler and more visually pleasing to just make it always thicker and not change its size on hover.</li>
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<p>Matter of taste. It think I would be happy with thin handle and separator line.</p>
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<li class="remarkup-list-item">IMO the overall result just looks good. :)</li>
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<p>IMO so does the above (thin handle and separator line). With the advantage that it does not feel like a step backward.</p>
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</div></div><br /><div><strong>REPOSITORY</strong><div><div>R31 Breeze</div></div></div><br /><div><strong>BRANCH</strong><div><div>phab/scrollbarseparator</div></div></div><br /><div><strong>REVISION DETAIL</strong><div><a href="https://phabricator.kde.org/D26655">https://phabricator.kde.org/D26655</a></div></div><br /><div><strong>To: </strong>mart, Plasma, Breeze, VDG, ngraham<br /><strong>Cc: </strong>ahiemstra, hpereiradacosta, mthw, plasma-devel, LeGast00n, The-Feren-OS-Dev, jraleigh, zachus, fbampaloukas, GB_2, ragreen, ZrenBot, ngraham, alexeymin, himcesjf, lesliezhai, ali-mohamed, jensreuterberg, abetts, sebas, apol, mart<br /></div>