<table><tr><td style="">abetts added a comment.
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<div style="margin: 0;
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<p>Here's how that would look with a comparison.</p>
<p>11pt title:<br />
<a href="https://phabricator.kde.org/F6197910" style="background-color: #e7e7e7;
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<p>13pt title:<br />
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<p>To me that looks way too heavy and attention-getting. Here's 13pt non-bold:<br />
<a href="https://phabricator.kde.org/F6197917" style="background-color: #e7e7e7;
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<p>Or even 11pt bold:<br />
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<p>I actually really like 11 pt bold for the title.</p>
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<div style="font-style: normal;
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<p>11pt does look even better when the hinting is appropriate (slight RGB hinting for most people), which is fixed by <a href="https://phabricator.kde.org/D12925" style="background-color: #e7e7e7;
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color: black;text-decoration: none;">D12925: Parse global config files. Remove 'Vendor default' option. Fix changes not recognized.</a>. But that's not really related to this. The idea of making the size bigger is to increase readability, which is just something that naturally comes from having the text be bigger; this is not controversial. The question is not whether larger text is more readable (it is), it's whether or not it's worth it because of the trade-offs involved.</p></div>
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<p>I would probably do 13 pt titlebar and no bold</p></div></div><br /><div><strong>REPOSITORY</strong><div><div>R119 Plasma Desktop</div></div></div><br /><div><strong>REVISION DETAIL</strong><div><a href="https://phabricator.kde.org/D14869">https://phabricator.kde.org/D14869</a></div></div><br /><div><strong>To: </strong>ngraham, Plasma, KDE Applications, valorie, VDG<br /><strong>Cc: </strong>abetts, davidedmundson, rizzitello, plasma-devel, ragreen, Pitel, ZrenBot, lesliezhai, ali-mohamed, jensreuterberg, sebas, apol, mart<br /></div>