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<p>Current breeze colors give</p>
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<p>To be fair, black and white do too:</p>
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<p>Sure, as W3C only recommends a minimum contrast, no maximum.</p>
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<p>That paper is about people with Dyslexia. Certainly something to be aware of, but not exactly a universally-applicable observation.</p>
<p>I am sure we can play the dueling studies game till the cows come home, what with the volume of scholarship out there. In the end, this has to be a simple judgment call, based on aesthetics and which groups we're willing to saddle with slightly less usability. It seems like those preferring the lower-contrast text are the young, those with good eyesight, and possibly Dyslexics. Those who prefer higher contrast text are the older, or those with poorer eyesight.</p></blockquote>
<p>Fully agree. This judgement should however probably come from VDG, in particular from those who were involved in the initial design of the breeze color scheme.</p>
<blockquote style="border-left: 3px solid #a7b5bf; color: #464c5c; font-style: italic; margin: 4px 0 12px 0; padding: 4px 12px; background-color: #f8f9fc;"><p>The nice thing about Plasma is that this is all so easily changeable, so there's less pressure, but I still think an update to the defaults makes sense so we don't leave older people and those with worse eyesight out in the cold. Perhaps a less extreme change might make sense--a compromise midway between the status quo and my proposed change? How about this:</p>
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<li class="remarkup-list-item">Where there's a solid white background, use dark-gray-but-not-quite-black text</li>
<li class="remarkup-list-item">Where there's a gray background, do use solid black text
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That way we have better contrast, but we never have the total starkness of black text on a white background.</li>
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<p>This might work.</p></div></div><br /><div><strong>REPOSITORY</strong><div><div>R31 Breeze</div></div></div><br /><div><strong>REVISION DETAIL</strong><div><a href="https://phabricator.kde.org/D7424" rel="noreferrer">https://phabricator.kde.org/D7424</a></div></div><br /><div><strong>To: </strong>ngraham, hpereiradacosta, jensreuterberg, jriddell, kvermette, VDG<br /><strong>Cc: </strong>progwolff, broulik, sebas, plasma-devel, ZrenBot, lesliezhai, ali-mohamed, jensreuterberg, abetts, apol, mart<br /></div>