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<a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126949/">https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126949/</a>
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<p style="margin-top: 0;">On February 2nd, 2016, 10:17 a.m. CET, <b>Marco Martin</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">maybe not oxygen, but i want to point out that i <em style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">do</em> maintain the Air theme</p></pre>
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<p>On February 2nd, 2016, 4:02 p.m. CET, <b>Martin Klapetek</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Then we got some fixing to do as this is how Air looks like here: http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/6071be9f (also notice the bottom frame of the controls)</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I can file all these as bugs if you want.</p></pre>
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<p>On February 2nd, 2016, 4:50 p.m. CET, <b>andreas kainz</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">There are missing icons from the oxygen plasma theme and in the future also in oxygen-icons. I will work on this but without this the theme is not that broken as you show in the screenshot when you use everything from oxygen (plasma theme, icons, window decoration, ...) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1642456/VDG/KF5/OxygenDesktop.png</p></pre>
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<p>On February 2nd, 2016, 5:15 p.m. CET, <b>Marco Martin</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">it's fine they are missing in the plasma themes, those themes were designed to have systray icons explicitly different (to change that, all of their icons can just be deleted and they will fallback)</p></pre>
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<p>On February 2nd, 2016, 5:16 p.m. CET, <b>Marco Martin</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">what do you mean with the bottom frame of the controls?</p></pre>
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<p>On February 2nd, 2016, 5:17 p.m. CET, <b>Martin Klapetek</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">@andreas - This is only about the Plasma theme, using different icons or window decoration has zero impact on the theme itself.
The Plasma theme has many broken things, here's a list of what I've noticed in just couple minutes:
* task manager buttons have too big margins; the icons are tiny and text is gone
* all button-based controls have strangely stretched bottom frame
* kicker has artifacts in the submenu corners that touch the parent menus
* the selection box in listviews is smaller than the items, making the icons in systray popup be painted outside of the selection rectangle
* placeholder text has no inner left padding on text inputs
* the blinking cursor in text inputs can be painted partially outside the input field
* sliders have artifacts in corners
* network manager has no selection painted on hover, it's missing quite a few graphical things it seems
* everything has a huuuuge shadow (although that may be a feature)
...it's not just about setting the theme and looking at the default desktop and making a screenshot. You have to use it for a while.
These are all fixable, but given the last useful commit in air/ was June 2014, I had considered this as unmaintained.</pre>
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<p>On February 2nd, 2016, 5:23 p.m. CET, <b>Martin Klapetek</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><blockquote style="text-rendering: inherit;padding: 0 0 0 1em;border-left: 1px solid #bbb;white-space: normal;margin: 0 0 0 0.5em;line-height: inherit;">
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">what do you mean with the bottom frame of the controls?</p>
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<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Look at the button or the checkbox in my screenshot, their bottom frame looks huge.</p></pre>
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<p>On February 2nd, 2016, 5:23 p.m. CET, <b>Marco Martin</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">many of those bugs are actually a symptom of bad compatibility with older themes (tough made worse by high dpi).
and this is actually a problem of plasma, as the compatibility of themes was, and still is a promise (and I had already had to modify things around in controls or plasmoids specifically to fix the look is some random old theme)</p></pre>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Yeah, I figured hidpi probably makes these details much more exposed. Another thing to consider is the number of bug reports with old themes. I remember a single one, I don't think there were that many more. Which either means that nobody uses old themes or that all good themes were updated to Plasma 5 already (or that Breeze is just perfect).</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Maybe Air and Oxygen should then just be updated to not be "old" anymore? I imagine that when theme creators tested the old themes against Plasma 5(.0/.1), it looked broken and so they went ahead and fixed it on their side.</p></pre>
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<p>On February 1st, 2016, 8:30 p.m. CET, Martin Klapetek wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for KDE Frameworks and Plasma.</div>
<div>By Martin Klapetek.</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Feb. 1, 2016, 8:30 p.m.</i></p>
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<b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Bugs: </b>
<a href="http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358533">358533</a>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">They are untested, unmaintained and most importantly, broken.</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Let's remove them from our releases and move them to kde-look.org for grabs.</p></pre>
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