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<p style="margin-top: 0;">On October 25th, 2015, 10:05 p.m. UTC, <b>Thomas Pfeiffer</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">As always: If you want design or usability input, please provide a screenshot. We cannot read the code. Thanks.</p></pre>
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<p>On October 26th, 2015, 10:33 a.m. UTC, <b>Eike Hein</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Thomas, all this does is not grey out the text in Task Manager button labels when a window is minimized. See also the long discussion in the referenced bug ticket.</p></pre>
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<p>On October 26th, 2015, 7:52 p.m. UTC, <b>Thomas Pfeiffer</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Thanks, I just wanted to make sure what it specifically does.
In that case, I am against the patch as it is. There should be some way of distinguishing minimized from non-minimized tasks.
I agree with the problem, but I do not agree with the solution.</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Would it be possible to instead of hardcoded greying-out (which I also agree is not the right representation, because greying out is reserved for disabled controls) allow the Plasma theme to define the visual representation?
In the Breeze theme, it would make sense (as suggested in the bug thread) to use a different color for the highlight bar instead of changing the representation of the task. Other themes might choose differen representations, or just don't distinguish them at all.</p></pre>
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<p>On October 26th, 2015, 8:10 p.m. UTC, <b>Heiko Tietze</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Other solutions: size (e.g. make the button smaller), text (brackets for instance), position (special area outside the normal task bar), subtile grey out (icon only), or add some decorator to the icon. The color might work well - and would probably be the easiest way, but I'm afraid of the desire to show more states like maximized, docked, active, different virtual screen etc. with the need to remember all the colors. Personally I'd like the position very much since minimizing a window means to not include it into the workflow, more or less. It's like the most missing feature of minimizing into tray. However that would be quite a big change.</p></pre>
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<p>On October 26th, 2015, 9:17 p.m. UTC, <b>Eike Hein</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Changing size or position is jarring because it causes a lot of movement on the bar. Desaturating the icon is unpopular with users too, since the color information is desired to recognize an icon quickly.</p></pre>
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<p>On October 26th, 2015, 9:19 p.m. UTC, <b>Christoph Feck</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">If I understand the bug report correctly, the issue was with the icon only, so the text graying could be kept, and the icon graying removed.</pre>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">See e.g. comment 33 "Faded text and colours makes this difficult". So it is also about the text.</p></pre>
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<p>On October 23rd, 2015, 11:16 a.m. UTC, Gregor Mi wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for Plasma, KDE Usability and Jens Reuterberg.</div>
<div>By Gregor Mi.</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Oct. 23, 2015, 11:16 a.m.</i></p>
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<b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Bugs: </b>
<a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311991">311991</a>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">This fixes Bug 311991. Though I am not sure if there are side effects which I am not aware of.</p></pre>
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