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<p style="margin-top: 0;">On September 14th, 2015, 8:44 a.m. UTC, <b>Martin Gräßlin</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">-2, a change for a month in the devel branch doesn't make much sense.</p></pre>
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<p>On September 14th, 2015, 9:30 a.m. UTC, <b>David Faure</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">As you want. You're raising the bar for new contributors, who can't work on your code using the latest KDE Frameworks release.</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">You and me might compile everything, but you'll get more contributors if you let people work on workspace and apps using a released frameworks (for which there are distro packages) than if you require them to compile frameworks first. Just like we don't require Qt from git, we shouldn't require KF5 from git, I thought this was the general agreement.</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">If you're worried about the ifdef, just use the two liner version of the code forever, I was always a bit dubious about adding a method just for that anyway.</p></pre>
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<p>On September 14th, 2015, 9:56 a.m. UTC, <b>Martin Gräßlin</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">It's really not that uncommon to depend on latest frameworks in workspace. It's common that I add things in KWindowSystem to make use of it in KWin directly. Or lately I used lots of new functionalty from KGlobalAccel directly.</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Yes it raises the entry level, but it's also rather unlikely that we are able to a policy forbidding depending on frameworks master without CI checks.</p></pre>
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<p>On September 14th, 2015, 11:44 a.m. UTC, <b>Sebastian Kügler</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Besides, these occasional devs can use the stable branch en then forward port?</p></pre>
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<p>On September 14th, 2015, 12:03 p.m. UTC, <b>Marco Martin</b> wrote:</p>
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<p>On September 15th, 2015, 8:38 a.m. UTC, <b>Ben Cooksley</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Please note that the CI system is shifting towards only allowing usage of released products. We'll also be imposing a dependency prohibition between Applications and Plasma so there will no longer be any ability to have dependencies between the two.</p></pre>
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<p>On September 15th, 2015, 8:41 a.m. UTC, <b>Aleix Pol Gonzalez</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">@Ben: Really? Why? Where was this discussed?</p></pre>
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<p>On September 15th, 2015, 9:08 a.m. UTC, <b>Martin Gräßlin</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">@Ben: where should libraries like kwayland and kdecoration go then? They do not fit requirements of frameworks but might be useable to applications (kwayland is a must have library for any wayland integration).</p></pre>
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<p>On September 15th, 2015, 9:59 a.m. UTC, <b>Ben Cooksley</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">That has yet to be resolved. Likely another layer which will be released as needed by Applications / Plasma which sits in between Frameworks and them will be added I suspect. No binary compatibility commitments, same licensing rules as Applications / Plasma, just a logically separate product so it doesn't cause dependency problems. I don't expect too many libraries or runtime components to end up there (Dr Konqi might perhaps?).</p></pre>
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<p>On September 15th, 2015, 10:27 a.m. UTC, <b>Martin Gräßlin</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Honestly: I don't see the point in that except of making everything more complicated (yet another product which has a dedicated release cycle). If applications want to depend on workspace libraries: that's fine. They know what it means. We shouldn't prevent "stupid things" in the CI system.</p></pre>
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<p>On September 18th, 2015, 2:30 p.m. UTC, <b>Armin K.</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">If this patch is to be discarded, kde frameworks dep should be raised to 5.15, because it won't compile with 5.14 (which it currently requires) without this change.</p></pre>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">You're right, thanks. done.</p></pre>
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<p>On September 12th, 2015, 9:38 a.m. UTC, Armin K. wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for Plasma and David Faure.</div>
<div>By Armin K..</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Sept. 12, 2015, 9:38 a.m.</i></p>
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plasma-workspace
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">KDesktopFile.readMimeTypes(); hasn't made it into Frameworks 5.14, causing plasma-workspace git master to depend on yet unreleased version of KDE Frameworks to build. David Faure has suggested to use fix like this one until at least Frameworks 5.15 have been released.</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I don't have commit access, so someone needs to commit this for me.</p></pre>
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<li>applets/icon/plugin/icon_p.cpp <span style="color: grey">(97af67a)</span></li>
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