<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Martin Gräßlin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mgraesslin@kde.org" target="_blank">mgraesslin@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">><br>
> Also what exactly does suck about it?<br>
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</span>The problems with the non natural layouts are various, e.g.:<br>
* windows might get too small as all windows have same size<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I believe that's not really a problem, see the screenshot I posted above with 16 windows.</div><div>I have no data for this claim, but I don't think that many people actually have more than 10</div><div>windows opened at once? And there's the label.</div><div><br></div><div>I actually find the windows in Natural to be sometimes even smaller.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
* windows might move to a bad position, e.g. a window from the top left goes<br>
to bottom right<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hmm...that might be an issue for some, yes. Personally I've never associated</div><div>the window position on screen with the position of the window in the effect.</div><div>Perhaps because I never really got to see the zoom out animation (all my systems</div><div>were always with binary nvidia and there the animation is just 0.5s freeze)</div><div>and so the visual clue was broken. Dunno.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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The natural layout tries to optimize that by using an algorithm using size and<br>
position as reference. The downside is that the layout might appear to be<br>
random. But so would a movement all across the screen look random.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I do dare to say that I don't understand this algorithm at all and I believe so do</div><div>other people. The advantage of the grid would be that the all windows are</div><div>presented in a uniform and consistent form, even if the sorting is random/not ideal.</div><div><br></div><div>In this case, imo the looks outweight the negative of the grid as you get the same</div><div>(moreless) negatives in the Natural look.</div><div><br></div><div>Do you have a link to the VDG thread btw?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer</span></div></div>
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