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<p style="margin-top: 0;">On Dezember 31st, 2014, 11:29 vorm. UTC, <b>Thomas Pfeiffer</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">The more we (the VDG) think and learn about this, the more we realize that we haven't really thought it through yet.
It looks like it's "back to the drawing board" here, as we don't want to make a change that makes as many users unhappy as it makes users happy.</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">The whole concept of the dashboard definitely needs to be improved, but just changing one thing while leaving the rest as it is won't help, so we'll get back to you guys when we have a real, thought-through plan.</p></pre>
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<p>On Dezember 31st, 2014, 11:43 vorm. UTC, <b>Aleix Pol Gonzalez</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Yes, I had a conversation about that yesterday as well. I think it would be very healthy if the usability/vdg thought about the dashboard and plasma interaction in general.</p></pre>
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<p>On Dezember 31st, 2014, Mittag UTC, <b>Thomas Pfeiffer</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Yes, it would, and we're on it. Stay tuned for an official announcement once we've figured out our approach to this (I expect this to be a rather big effort if we're going to do it right).</p></pre>
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<p>On Dezember 31st, 2014, 12:04 nachm. UTC, <b>Aleix Pol Gonzalez</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Shameless plug. Plasma sprint coming up, great place to discuss rather big efforts: https://sprints.kde.org/sprint/260</p></pre>
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<p>On Januar 2nd, 2015, 11:21 vorm. UTC, <b>David Edmundson</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Thomas, Kai: asking a subtly different question:</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Any redesign is not going to get into Plamsa before 5.3. Do we want to have this in for the next 3 months or leave it like it currently is.</p></pre>
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<p>On Januar 2nd, 2015, 11:59 vorm. UTC, <b>Kai Uwe Broulik</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I think we shouldn't do any half-baked sort of thing, so rather leave it as is and then we can come up with something awesome™ later.</p></pre>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Agreed: Let's leave things the way they are for the moment and plan the future post-5.3.</p></pre>
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<p>On Dezember 31st, 2014, 10:01 vorm. UTC, Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for Plasma and KDE Usability.</div>
<div>By Kai Uwe Broulik.</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Dez. 31, 2014, 10:01 vorm.</i></p>
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<b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Bugs: </b>
<a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342123">342123</a>
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plasma-desktop
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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<li>desktoppackage/contents/views/Panel.qml <span style="color: grey">(04a8e0b)</span></li>
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<li><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2014/12/31/957bad71-2bfc-4451-b1dd-479d747f1a19__dashboardpanel2.jpg">Dashboard with dim panel</a></li>
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