<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">2014-11-07 14:04 GMT+01:00 Ivan Čukić <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ivan.cukic@kde.org" target="_blank">ivan.cukic@kde.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="">
</span>Not really, when implementing a new plasmoid version (most of the time, it is
mostly about rewriting than porting), you don't actually know every little
thing that the old one does.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>good point. i thought that complex stuff like the taskbar is analyzed before reimplementing/porting it.<br></div></div></div><br><br>2014-11-07 13:59 GMT+01:00 Eike Hein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hein@kde.org" target="_blank">hein@kde.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
you're raising things on
the ML that have already been discussed on the bug tracker,
which […] makes some people
feel like you're ignoring those discussions and disrespecting
the opinions raised in them and trying to get your way via
another venue.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>that was not at all my intention :|<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Now ... that's not always a bad thing, some situations do
call for persistence and escalating things to a different
venue. Ruffled feathers side, good things sometimes come out
of it.<br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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This is a very ordinary push-pull interaction, so nobody
should get too heated here please.<span class=""><br></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>i’m calm, and thanks for explaining why people did this!<br><br></div><div>my intention was based on the assumption that there’s some kind of porting plan, an analysis of what to port with which features, or the porters having this plan at least in their heads.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class=""></span>yeah. when i tried it, it wasn’t implemented, so naturally i yearned for the thing i was used to: middle click. shift-click is more consistent,
but i use the task bar more often to start new instances than to close them.<br>
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I made the same argument in the discussion […] so I'm receptive to the argument, and still mulling it. I
implemented Shift-Click for now because it's non-conflicted
and could be done independently of how middle-click may or
may not be treated in the future.<span class=""><br></span></blockquote><div> <br>
</div><div>maybe simply use a setting just like in the old icon tasks plasmoid.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
oh! so intuitive for everyone but people who spent too much time with
the taskbar to try new things (this isn’t meant sarcastically, i really
like it ☺)<br>
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Note that if you use the Application Menu (Kicker) plasmoid as
your launcher menu, the context menu for apps in there also has
an "Add to Desktop" action (which is smart enough to spawn an
Icon plasmoid on Desktop, and do a symlink on Folder).<br></blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">maybe we could add some more discoverability, though. android and web apps often have a small guide popups explaining features like this:<br><br><a href="https://github.com/amlcurran/ShowcaseView"><img alt="https://github.com/amlcurran/ShowcaseView" src="http://i.stack.imgur.com/cFMG1.png" height="569" width="320"></a><div style="display:block" class="m-encrypt-frame" id="eFrame-wkjc4oy2"><a class="m-frame-close">×</a> <button style id="signBtn" class="m-btn m-encrypt-button" type="button"><i class="m-icon m-icon-sign"></i></button> <button style id="encryptBtn" class="m-btn m-encrypt-button" type="button"><i class="m-icon m-icon-encrypt"></i></button> <button style id="undoBtn" class="m-btn m-encrypt-button" type="button"><i class="m-icon m-icon-undo"></i></button> <button style="display:inline-block" id="editorBtn" class="m-btn m-encrypt-button" type="button"><i class="m-icon m-icon-editor"></i></button> </div><br><br></div></div>