<div class="gmail_quote">2011/2/20 Martin Gräßlin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mgraesslin@kde.org">mgraesslin@kde.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On Sunday 20 February 2011 22:30:01 Beat Wolf wrote:<br>
> Then leave it out during dev, but in when releasing.<br>
</div>I wrote that in my initial mail about the config option.<br>
<div class="im">><br>
> I just don't agree that for example nvidia will fix their drivers just<br>
> because kde does not work with some, probably older cards.<br>
</div>They actually fixed quite some bugs after the 4.1 release.<br>
<br>
Concerning older cards: KWin will continue to work if the driver does not<br>
support compositing. It's only about enforcing if the driver supports it.<br></blockquote><div>My driver "supports" compositing, but the workspace becomes almost unusably slow when it's enabled (Unichrome integrated GPU), but it runs mostly fine otherwise.<br>
<br>Check, at least, the FPS rate and disable compositing if it's < 30 FPS average.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">> But i know that i can't win that debate. But i just know that such a<br>
> decision will cause problems.<br>
</div>We are lucky: we will see the results of GNOME Shell and Unity in April -<br>
enough time for us to adjust.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">><br>
> Am Sonntag, 20. Februar 2011, um 22:19:53 schrieb Martin Gräßlin:<br>
> > On Sunday 20 February 2011 22:11:35 Beat Wolf wrote:<br>
> > > On this computer, using the binary nvidia drivers, i could enable<br>
> > > compositing. But due to some nvidia driver bugs, my computer becomes<br>
> > > slugish very fast, which means compositing is not an option.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > i don't think that the <a href="http://x.org" target="_blank">x.org</a> environment is stable enough to be able to<br>
> > > remove a option that lets you work around bugs.<br>
> ><br>
> > bugs need to be fixed and not worked around.<br>
> ><br>
> > That is exactly one of the reasons why I want to have it disabled. It's<br>
> > just not an option that something like 4.5 happens ever again! We need to<br>
> > know problems during development and if devs tend to just turning of<br>
> > compositing it will happen again.<br>
> ><br>
> > > Beat Wolf<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Am Sonntag, 20. Februar 2011, um 22:06:24 schrieb Martin Gräßlin:<br>
> > > > On Sunday 20 February 2011 22:00:58 Davide Bettio wrote:<br>
> > > > > Hi,<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > On 02/20/11 21:57, Martin Gräßlin wrote:<br>
> > > > > > No, while the KCM sucks it will still suck after those three<br>
> > > > > > options have been<br>
> > > > > > removed. It needs a proper redesign, but that is out of the scope<br>
> > > > > > of this thread ;-)<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > I can't understand the point about removing enable/disable options.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > if we don't want to give the user the possibility to disable, we<br>
> > > > don't need an option to enable/disable.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Let's turn the question around: why should the user be able to enable<br>
> > > > or disable compositing? What would be a valid reason to do so? And<br>
> > > > keep in mind: with Wayland it will be impossible to turn off<br>
> > > > compositing, same in GNOME Shell, Unity and Mac OS X (don't know<br>
> > > > about Windows).<br>
> > ><br>
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