<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Sebastian Kügler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sebas@kde.org">sebas@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="h5">On Friday, October 22, 2010 23:34:16 todd rme wrote:<br>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Sebastian Kügler <<a href="mailto:sebas@kde.org">sebas@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > On Friday, October 22, 2010 22:35:16 Sebastian Kügler wrote:<br>
> >> > Is there any way to make it so themes can specify whether it embossed,<br>
> >> > sunken, or flush? Some themes, like ASCII or ghost, would probably<br>
> >> > look better without the effect.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Hm, yes probably.<br>
> ><br>
> > And with "yes probably", I mean that some themes might look better<br>
> > without it, but I'd rather have the default case done well and it look<br>
> > slightly alien on flat themes, than having it too flat in the default<br>
> > just so it looks good in ASCII -- optimize for the current case (in our<br>
> > case, the default). I think the ASCII theme, and other very flat ones<br>
> > are kind of corner cases.<br>
> ><br>
> > Doesn't mean it should be overdone, or that we can just ignore those<br>
> > themes, just that getting it better in the default theme is paramount.<br>
><br>
> I agree completely, that's why I suggested themes be able to specify<br>
> whether they want it or not (and whether it is embossed or recessed).<br>
> That way you can focus your attention on getting it working well for<br>
> the default themes, and in the rare cases where it makes things worse<br>
> the responsibility is on the theme developer to disable it. For<br>
> legacy themes I agree the default should be to have it. Just looking<br>
> through the themes I only see a handful that I think this might look<br>
> worse on.<br>
<br>
</div></div>Interestingly, the way the human brain interprets it on or the other way.<br>
"Normal" people will see a dark backdrop as a shadow, while seeing a light<br>
backdrop as embossed. Schizophrenic people apparently do not make this<br>
translation. Shadows are a common equivalent in nature for this, they're dark.<br>
Text with light backdrop will appear embossed or recessed depending on how the<br>
shadows of surrounding objects look like -- it's seen in context.<br>
<br>
Here's an interesting article on how the human brain interprets convex and<br>
concave shapes when viewed on 2d surfaces:<br>
<a href="http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/04/schizoillusion/" target="_blank">http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/04/schizoillusion/</a><br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br>Hi,<br> Doesn't look that good on mine <a href="http://imagebin.ca/view/y8OxF3.html">http://imagebin.ca/view/y8OxF3.html</a> . The readability varies from wallpaper to wallpaper, and it looks a bit odd when date is on.<br clear="all">
<br>-- <br><div><br></div>Shantanu Tushar (UTC +0530)<br><a href="http://www.shantanutushar.com" target="_blank">http://www.shantanutushar.com</a><br>