2009/10/4 Aaron J. Seigo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aseigo@kde.org">aseigo@kde.org</a>></span><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On October 4, 2009, Jacopo De Simoi wrote:<br>
</div><div class="im">> now, we believe that it is ready for merging into trunk. Of course we need<br>
> your feedback first, so grab it, try it out and tell us what you think!<br>
<br>
</div>i still don't see the need for either of the popup control options. why should<br>
we care how long it pops up?<br>
<br>
i can think of two use cases for the "show pop up when device is inserted":<br>
<br>
a) the user simply doesn't want that behaviour but still wants access to their<br>
devices<br>
<br>
b) the user has set up the notifier to not display some devices and so doesn't<br>
want it popping up when those devices are inserted<br>
<br>
(b) is probably easily done by simply not popping up the window if the device<br>
is hidden in it.<br></blockquote><div> </div><div>if the device inserted is hidden the popup doesn't show up, it doesn't matter if that option is enabled or not. so the usecase behind that option was (a).<br></div>
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so the question is "is (a) worth supporting?" personally, i don't think so.<br>
the point of this thing is as a device *notifier*. it's not just a device<br>
*lister*. <br></blockquote><div> </div><div>but in the real world the main point of this applet is to access the devices, because if i insert a cd or a usb drive i don't need the computer to tell me that i inserted it, i already know that! <br>
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so, there's the possibility that the user has more than one of these on their<br>
screen. why? because they've hidden some devices in one and others in another<br>
to "sort them out". in that case i can see why they may not want to have them<br>
all pop up when they plug a device in. so the whole "show only certain<br>
devices" feature no leads us to having people who want yet more features to<br>
deal with the side effects of that feature.<br>
<br>
*sigh*<br>
<br>
what's the bet that when we release this widget someone looks at the options<br>
and then requests "can i show only fixed devices?" it's something of a<br>
pandora's box that is being opened up with this set of options.<br>
<br>
my suggestion is this:<br>
<br>
turn the "show removable devices only" option into a combobox that offers<br>
three options: "Removable devices", "Non-removable devices", "All devices" and<br>
have it default to first one. the label could be "Show:"<br>
<br></blockquote><div>that's a good idea, it brings more order too.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
remove both the popup control options and make the popup only happen when the<br>
device is actually to be shown in the notifier.<br>
<br>
let's see if we get any significant feedback requesting popup controls with<br>
that. once we offer features we can't easily take them back, no matter how<br>
much pain they cause us. we can easily add features later, however, if it<br>
turns out they are really needed.<br>
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