I think tagging has a very good advantage to average users. Applications could be tagged so their windows show up in the same tag group each time they are launched. Also, you could have default tags either set by developers, or set using the program groups from the Kickoff menu. This way the time messing around with tags would be reduced. I think that tagging would help b/c it would help sort information. Even with virtual desktops, my windows are very cluttered.<br>
<br>An alternative would be to tie application windows to a certain virtual desktop. Although this doesn't solve the "I want konsole on my Programming and Virtualization Desktops" problem, it will help with window management b/c the user doesnt have to switch desktops before launching the application to ensure the application lives on the right virtual desktop.<br>
<br clear="all">-------------------------------------<br>Alexander Shenoy<br>Student<br>University of Pittsburgh<br><br><a href="http://four.sentenc.es">four.sentenc.es</a><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Chani <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chanika@gmail.com">chanika@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On July 14, 2009 22:41:32 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:<br>
> On Friday 10 July 2009, Chani wrote:<br>
> > what I wanted is window tagging.<br>
><br>
> do windows live long enough for tagging to work?<br>
<br>
</div>mine live for weeks. they'd live for months if I wasn't recompiling kde all<br>
the time. is this not common?<br>
also, I'd like it if tagging was more automatic at some point.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
> would there be an "always there" tag?<br>
<br>
</div>yeah<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
> how easy is it to tag a window? (this is an interaction design concept)<br>
<br>
</div>I'd hope it'd be as easy as it is to move a window to another desktop right<br>
now.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
> how does tagging interact with activities? (i suppose that's answered in<br>
> the "windowgroups / pager / ZUI" thread?)<br>
<br>
</div>we could have an activity associated with a tag, or maybe we could keep them<br>
independent...<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
> what's the average user advantage in this?<br>
<br>
</div>hrm. perhaps not much, given that the average user doesn't even use virtual<br>
desktops.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
> how much work is saved or how much efficiency gained versus how much time<br>
> spent messing around with tagging?<br>
<br>
</div>good question. I'd certainly want to keep hte messing-around time to a<br>
minimum.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
><br>
> this feels like a very geek feature that i can't see many people using. i<br>
> could be wrong .... but tagging really tends to work when:<br>
><br>
> * the data set is large<br>
<br>
</div>how large? I have a couple of dozen konq tabs that I think I could manage more<br>
easily with tagging.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> * the data set is long lived (so value accrues over time)<br>
<br>
</div>I want to eventually have these tags be persistent - tagging of applications,<br>
documents etc.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> * the data set is shared by many people (so there's value reaped from<br>
> other's work or by being able to tie several people's work together in<br>
> unique ways)<br>
<br>
</div>yeah, we don't have this at all until we bring in document tags.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
> because of that, tagging works _fabulously_ for things like photo sharing<br>
> websites and online news aggregation.<br>
><br>
> how well does it work for a small, often/usually temporary, non-shared data<br>
> set?<br>
<br>
<br>
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