Completely agree on that...Same for OpenSuse 11.1 they ship Aya by default, first thing i do (when it's not my own build), get rid of the ugly default.<br><br>Please listen users (and sometime just ask them what they want or what are their habits)<br>
They want NEW stuff not a KDE3-like theme.<br><br>What i still don't understand is that the default of plasma is oxygen theme, why changing it? Why shipping oxygen windec by default so? Why not using plastique in that case?<br>
<br>And i have to say that Aaron is right, the first impression you have is not really impressive in that case.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:27 PM, nuno pinheiro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nuno@oxygen-icons.org">nuno@oxygen-icons.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">A Quinta 09 Abril 2009 18:40:46 Aaron J. Seigo você escreveu:<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">> On Thursday 09 April 2009, Helio Chissini de Castro wrote:<br>
> > For light backgrounds with white text, there's no same issue. Happens<br>
> > always in the combination of dark background with light themes.<br>
><br>
> the solution is simple: make the halo larger and perhaps don't use such a<br>
> small font.<br>
><br>
> > So, for 4.4 maybe is a good idea to study this specific issue and have<br>
> > some solution for this, but for now, i'm out of a simple solution than do<br>
> > a ugly hack for solve our issues.<br>
><br>
> it doesn't require an ugly hack at all. here's your patch, applies in<br>
> kdelibs/plasma/:<br>
><br>
> Index: widgets/iconwidget.cpp<br>
> ===================================================================<br>
> --- widgets/iconwidget.cpp (revision 951209)<br>
> +++ widgets/iconwidget.cpp (working copy)<br>
> @@ -976,7 +976,7 @@<br>
> shadowOffset = QPoint(0, 1);<br>
> }<br>
><br>
> - PaintUtils::shadowBlur(shadow, 2, d->shadowColor);<br>
> + PaintUtils::shadowBlur(shadow, 4, d->shadowColor);<br>
> painter->drawImage(textBoundingRect.topLeft() + shadowOffset, shadow);<br>
> d->drawTextItems(painter, option, labelLayout, infoLayout);<br>
> }<br>
><br>
> > So we need at least in future the possibility of set color for items like<br>
> > icon text color, desktop plasma menu text color, etc...<br>
><br>
> not necessary.<br>
><br>
> now the commentary part of my email:<br>
> > First of all, here's the screenshot of basically the default desktop:<br>
> > <a href="http://users.mandriva.com.br/%7Eheliocastro/mandriva_free.jpg" target="_blank">http://users.mandriva.com.br/~heliocastro/mandriva_free.jpg</a><br>
> ><br>
> > So, we are using Aya theme, against a dark background.<br>
><br>
> may i ask: why Aya?<br>
><br>
> we include Aya for boring, conservative desks. think "i'm an accountant and<br>
> always wear a yellow bow tie to work. sometimes i put sugar *and* cream in<br>
> my coffee!!!"<br>
><br>
> i dunno .. it's like giving people the choice between a cool, hip suit and<br>
> a paper bag and they pick the paper bag to wear outside.<br>
><br>
> i'm really disappointed in defaults distros are choosing because they<br>
> totally make it pointless for us to do any art when the distros prove over<br>
> and over that they have no taste and therefore will inflict their lack of<br>
> taste on the user.<br>
><br>
> this sort of decision making is killing kde on the desktop. think "first<br>
> impressions" and guess what people will think when they look at what you<br>
> just sent us. ugh!<br>
><br>
> and before you say "oh, but people like simple and plain" i say "bullshit,<br>
> go look at how everyone wants a mac".<br>
><br>
> some day i wonder why we even bother trying to make things look good<br>
> upstream.<br>
<br>
</div></div>In this case i know and its couse the marketing team in mandriva wants gnome<br>
and kde desktop to look alike, so yeah<br>
ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg. makes me wonder wtf do we work<br>
for....<br>
fortunatly every one i know the frist thing they do with the kde desktop in<br>
mandriva is to change to kde defoults,<br>
Helio galaxy theme looks a bit old.<br>
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