[IDEA] Google Summer of Code - plasmoid mixer with phonon lib

[Aaron J. Seigo]

On Friday 13 March 2009, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> You don't find constructive suggesting that he might try joining forces
> with kmix instead duplicating work?

the only way to avoid duplicating work (and the duplication would be rather 
minimal, btw) would be to make kmix embeddable in plasma. 

a kpart would not be enough because the needs of a panel or media center 
interface are fairly different than what you want in a planar (e.g. desktop or 
full app window) interface.

so we'd need to make kmix into a plasmoid because those are actually able to:

* be easily embedded

* theme nicely to fit their surroundings

* can adapt to the formfactors

this would make the kmix binary essentially `plasmoidviewer mixer` with an app 
menu on top. when run as kmix, we'd turn on the "native theme" flag so that 
buttons, etc would use the native theme.

that would be sensible. kmix is something that ought to be properly 
integratable with the desktop *and* exist as a purely stand alone app. it 
should look the like a "regular" app when run stand alone and like the desktop 
shell when integrated there. one code base. and with plasma, that would be 
100% possible. as kmix currently is, and even with a kpart, that's not 
possible.

but i wouldn't ever even DARE try and do the sensible thing here and turn kmix 
into a plasmoid that runs in a window that we can then also use on the desktop 
because i fear, and and i think rightfully so, that people like you would just 
block any such effort while shouting about how plasma is trying to take over 
kde (whatever that means).

do you have any idea how frustrating this situation is for those of us working 
on the kde workspace?

i mean, it's not like we're thinking that okular should become a plasmoid or 
that ksnapshot should be rewritten as a plasmoid. we're being reasonable and 
trying to make technical decisions based on user centric design concepts.

anyways, in the meantime we'll do what we can to make the workspace better. it 
would be awesome if others would help rather than block our efforts at every 
turn.

-- 
Aaron J. Seigo
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