<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/7/11 Loïc Marteau <<a href="mailto:loic.marteau@gmail.com">loic.marteau@gmail.com</a>>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hey :) !<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="Ih2E3d">2008/7/11 J.R. Mauro <<a href="mailto:jrm8005@gmail.com" target="_blank">jrm8005@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br><div class="Ih2E3d">Why are we clicking? (smart) Search is the best way to solve this, along with presenting what you use often in the default view.<br>If you know the app name, type it, if you know the category, type it. If a new user wants to discover something they only need a rough idea, and<br>
can type "images" or "games," and then they get a list. With one click they can get what they want. With a 2 clicks they can add it to favorites<br>(although I think that could be made better by adding a little star to the entries like in the add plasma widget menu) Hey, KDE maintainers, there's<br>
a good feature, no? I hope you think so! :-)<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br><br>Yes search and favorites use is exactly that i do, but the problem with this argument is than in fact you said it is usable if you dont use it...<br>
<br>For example I'm thinking of new user that want to discover is new interface and computer apps without having any idea of what he will do... he just want to discover and enjoy the new hot kde stuff : he can't do it easily, not really good for a first impression.<br>
<br>I'm totally agree than there is a lot of other way to starts apps and than whatever you do with apps menu it is not the better way.<br><br>But this apps menu is the worst than i ever seen, sorry.</div></div></blockquote>
<div><br>Instead of spouting "It sucks," why don't you suggest a better approach? The menu in KDE 3 is very similar... it's categorized. Yes, that adds another click to what the user needs to do, but it stops them from being overwhelmed. Plus, in KDE 3 how would a new user find an application? Surely they don't know what Konqueror is. With kickoff, they can go to Internet, then can get a description of what most apps do by hovering over them. This is far improved from KDE 3. Again, adding a little star to ease the moving of apps to favorites would be an improvement, but you didn't suggest any improvements, just kept saying that it's bad. Please be more constructive.<br>
<br>I think it might be good to try to educate new users in how to work easily to discover applications, perhaps by giving them a little tour during the first login if they want, that really emphasizes the power of the search bar. Education is really what we need to focus on, not trying to tinker with something that actually works quite well. By your own admission, search and favorites make Kickoff work very efficiently, and I'm sure it will only improve. The "applications" tab is simply there so that there is a way to list all apps if that becomes absolutely necessary.<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br><br>Best regards<br>
<br>Loic <br></div></div><br>
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