On 5/2/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Thiago Macieira</b> <<a href="mailto:thiago@kde.org">thiago@kde.org</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
And the doctor will say, "who's got the surgery diploma here?"</blockquote><div><br>The diploma man is the one who can SOLVE the problem. But not always the best person to know WHAT IS the problem. :)<br></div><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">That's why we blog. That's why we have mailing lists. That's why we post<br>screenshots, create alphas and betas, etc.
<br><br>But what you're asking is that we stop working, dump all of the ideas that<br>we've had and restart from the scratch, talking to a hypothetical mass of<br>users who can provide intelligent feedback.</blockquote><div>
<br>Oh, no. I ask to provide the way to prepare the document. Or the place where people can get all necessary info.<br><br>See, journalists are lazy... If you will not give them info, they'll just... guess ;)<br><br>See this:
<a href="http://www.idg.pl/news/87252/100.html">http://www.idg.pl/news/87252/100.html</a><br><br>And ignore it's in Polish. Just guess what info was just send about what KDE 4 will be ;) A nice set of UI docs and specs + one or two alpha mockups (even graphs) to use of journalists would fix it.
<br></div><br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> And third, you're assuming<br>there is a mass of users who can provide intelligent, structured
<br>feedback.</blockquote><div><br>Yes. <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>I'm saying that unfiltered data coming from the users have very little
<br>practical use to developers. This kind of data has to be filtered by<br>someone else, condensed and formatted into concrete proposals. And, so<br>far, we don't have those people. What we have are the usability people<br>
and their job is not to do that.</blockquote><div><br>???<br><br>I think that's exactly what I did: <a href="http://www.e-gandalf.net/wiki/index.php/KDE4_Features">http://www.e-gandalf.net/wiki/index.php/KDE4_Features</a>
- filtered the input. And I can do more, and if you'd send a clear signal that you need this, I'm sure you'd find many volunteers to do this. <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Maybe you've found an area where you can contribute?</blockquote><div><br>Depending on if I'll get ANY feedback from anyone in KDE team on this: <a href="http://www.e-gandalf.net/wiki/index.php/KDE4_Features">http://www.e-gandalf.net/wiki/index.php/KDE4_Features
</a> ;)<br>If I will - yes, that's what I can contribute, if I won't - I still don't see any way, through I see what is needed, and KDE team says it's not :)<br><br>Greetings<br>Zbigniew Braniecki<br></div></div><br>