<div dir="ltr">Hi Alessandro,<div><br></div><div>I am trying to understand your point here. Though, I have made more 'objectified' approach to the proposal [1] making it easier to judge for the developers and a specific timeline making things much simpler to coordinate [2].</div>
<div><br></div><div>Honestly, we never said '<i>we will be doing a lot of design improvements</i>'. I know its a vague statement to make, but yes, we are supposed to make Design Improvements <b>specifically</b> to Files, User Management and Application Management. I mean, we have tried being specific, I don't know where we missed on this.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Please note that the timeline I wrote is fresh, so it may need some modifications. But yeah, I have made it clear about making complete PRs related to above mentioned areas and when I will be making them. This may help you judge things more effectively.</div>
<div><br></div><div style>Also, design evolves with time which made me start on this a bit early. I have kept time towards the end so that more enhancements can be made when we actually are done with the front-end and can see its implementation working. </div>
<div style><br></div><div style>I hope I am making my side clear.</div>
<div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://gist.github.com/raghunayyar/9b0dc508c365be86facc" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/raghunayyar/9b0dc508c365be86facc</a></div><div>[2] <a href="https://gist.github.com/raghunayyar/3af4d4b89c7be11fc705" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/raghunayyar/3af4d4b89c7be11fc705</a></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Alessandro Cosentino <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cosenal@gmail.com" target="_blank">cosenal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">@Raghu and Jan: Notice that in a GSoC project it needs to be clear<br>
from the beginning what the goals are.<br>
<br>
Let me be more clear: you can't say: we will do a lot of design<br>
improvements and make owncloud looks nicer. It needs to be something<br>
coherent and whose success can be judged objectively at the end of the<br>
summer.<br>
<br>
I am not implying anything, I am just giving advice on how to make the<br>
proposal looks better.<br>
<br>
Feel free to ask if it's not clear what my point is.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Alessandro<br>
</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Jan-Christoph Borchardt<br>
<<a href="mailto:hey@jancborchardt.net">hey@jancborchardt.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> Whoops, sorry for the late reply! :) We talk so much on IRC that I forget<br>
> the other channels.<br>
><br>
> So yeah, to everyone else: Raghu has contributed tons to ownCloud design in<br>
> the past and it’s really cool to work with him. I think the proposal is<br>
> great especially because it will improve the general quality of the ownCloud<br>
> core.<br>
><br>
> Please let us know if you have any feedback! :)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 2013/3/22 Raghu Nayyar <<a href="mailto:me@iraghu.com">me@iraghu.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>> Hi All,<br>
>><br>
>> I discussed my idea with Jan about taking forward the ownCloud core design<br>
>> as a part of my summer of code project. I created a gist to tackle the<br>
>> design : here is the link :<br>
>> <a href="https://gist.github.com/raghunayyar/9b0dc508c365be86facc" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/raghunayyar/9b0dc508c365be86facc</a><br>
>><br>
>> He is ready to mentor it along with Bernhard Posselt (Raydiation) as<br>
>> alternative mentor. The idea is up on the openSUSE GSoC page :<br>
>> <a href="https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GSOC_ideas#Forwarding_the_ownCloud_core_design" target="_blank">https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GSOC_ideas#Forwarding_the_ownCloud_core_design</a><br>
>><br>
>> Since the work involves working on 3 aspects, namely, Files, Application<br>
>> and User Management. I have split the work into Basic and Advanced<br>
>> enhancements so that it becomes easy to manage for both me and the mentor /<br>
>> co-mentor.<br>
>><br>
>> I have tried to mention all links in the "Design Forward" tag in my<br>
>> proposal, any changes / additions and off course feedbacks are most welcome.<br>
>><br>
>> Some of the work has already been started in the OC6_Fileactions branch in<br>
>> the core.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers!<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Qingping Hou <<a href="mailto:dave2008713@gmail.com">dave2008713@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks for all the help and input from everyone so far :)<br>
>>><br>
>>> I have updated the plan a bit according to the new feedback.<br>
>>><br>
>>> * for cache, I think it will be a great extension for the app. I will<br>
>>> see if I can find some time to work on this when the core part is<br>
>>> stable enough.<br>
>>> * for collaborate with marble, yes, it's already included in the plan.<br>
>>> Will discuss with them on stuff like how the communication API should<br>
>>> be designed.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:51 AM, eMerzh <<a href="mailto:merzhin@gmail.com">merzhin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> > Hi,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Yes if someone wan't to help the mentoring ... even google says it's<br>
>>> > recommended to be 2 :)<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Alessandro, the description i gave you that on irc :<br>
>>> > <a href="https://gist.github.com/eMerzh/c33af31ce3bed0c9b044" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/eMerzh/c33af31ce3bed0c9b044</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Jörn Friedrich Dreyer<br>
>>> > <<a href="mailto:jfd@owncloud.com">jfd@owncloud.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> >> On 20.03.2013 12:55, Jan-Christoph Borchardt wrote:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Right Alessandro, that’s the project I meant. Marble is awesome!<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Jörn, do you have the prototype up on Github?<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> nope, sorry. It was not even a real owncloud app. I had just tried to<br>
>>> >> make<br>
>>> >> the openstreetmap examples work on my own server.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> so long<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Jörn<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Alessandro Cosentino<br>
>>> >> <<a href="mailto:cosenal@gmail.com">cosenal@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> >> wrote:<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> Let's not forget this other project that the Marble people proposed:<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> <a href="http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2013/Ideas#Project:_Marble_meets_owncloud" target="_blank">http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2013/Ideas#Project:_Marble_meets_owncloud</a><br>
>>> >>> We should collaborate with them as well<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Jörn Friedrich Dreyer<br>
>>> >>> <<a href="mailto:jfd@owncloud.com">jfd@owncloud.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> >>> > Just to pour in some ideas: I hacked on a prototype that acts as a<br>
>>> >>> > proxy<br>
>>> >>> > to<br>
>>> >>> > openstreetmap but never finished it. A good starting point was<br>
>>> >>> > <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ProxySimplePHP" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ProxySimplePHP</a> which fetches<br>
>>> >>> > necessary<br>
>>> >>> > tiles on the fly with curl and provides minimal OpenLayers code -<br>
>>> >>> > the<br>
>>> >>> > js<br>
>>> >>> > part to render the map. The working example can be found at<br>
>>> >>> > <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenLayers" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenLayers</a>. For the search box<br>
>>> >>> > you<br>
>>> >>> > can<br>
>>> >>> > use Nominatim as a web service: see the Examples on<br>
>>> >>> > <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim</a><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > my 2 cent<br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > Jörn<br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > On 20.03.2013 10:59, Jan-Christoph Borchardt wrote:<br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > I’m happy to give design & interface guidance, so yes. :) Would be<br>
>>> >>> > really<br>
>>> >>> > cool if there will be a map app, because KDE’s Marble does some<br>
>>> >>> > ownCloud<br>
>>> >>> > integration (which I think is independent of our participation in<br>
>>> >>> > GSoC<br>
>>> >>> > because Marble is a KDE desktop software). It would be really cool<br>
>>> >>> > to be<br>
>>> >>> > able to sync routes and favorite places with that.<br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > Also, I guess I’m not the only one who would really like to have<br>
>>> >>> > something<br>
>>> >>> > for travel planning, have friends’ locations (from ownCloud<br>
>>> >>> > Contacts)<br>
>>> >>> > mapped<br>
>>> >>> > out and so on. Essentially what you can do with the »My Maps« thing<br>
>>> >>> > of<br>
>>> >>> > Google Maps.<br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > Wohoo!<br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Alessandro Cosentino<br>
>>> >>> > <<a href="mailto:cosenal@gmail.com">cosenal@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> >>> > wrote:<br>
>>> >>> >><br>
>>> >>> >> wow, great!<br>
>>> >>> >><br>
>>> >>> >> Jakob or Jan, do you want to backup/co-mentor?<br>
>>> >>> >> Officially in GSOC there is going to be only one mentor, but it's<br>
>>> >>> >> always good to have someone who can interacts with the student<br>
>>> >>> >> while<br>
>>> >>> >> the official mentor is away.<br>
>>> >>> >><br>
>>> >>> >> Brice and Qingping, can you give me a description of the project<br>
>>> >>> >> in<br>
>>> >>> >> the format of the openSUSE wiki?<br>
>>> >>> >><br>
>>> >>> >> Thanks!<br>
>>> >>> >><br>
>>> >>> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Frank Karlitschek<br>
>>> >>> >> <<a href="mailto:frank@owncloud.org">frank@owncloud.org</a>><br>
>>> >>> >> wrote:<br>
>>> >>> >> > Great attack plan :-)<br>
>>> >>> >> ><br>
>>> >>> >> ><br>
>>> >>> >> > On 19.03.2013, at 22:15, Qingping Hou <<a href="mailto:dave2008713@gmail.com">dave2008713@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> >>> >> > wrote:<br>
>>> >>> >> ><br>
>>> >>> >> >> Hi all,<br>
>>> >>> >> >><br>
>>> >>> >> >> I had a discussion with eMerzh on the map app project and come<br>
>>> >>> >> >> up<br>
>>> >>> >> >> with<br>
>>> >>> >> >> following attack plan:<br>
>>> >>> >> >> <a href="https://github.com/houqp/apps/blob/map_app/map/PLAN.md" target="_blank">https://github.com/houqp/apps/blob/map_app/map/PLAN.md</a><br>
>>> >>> >> >><br>
>>> >>> >> >> Feel free to comment on Github or reply your suggestions here.<br>
>>> >>> >> >> eMerzh<br>
>>> >>> >> >> will<br>
>>> >>> >> >> also update the project description on SUSE wiki later.<br>
>>> >>> >> >><br>
>>> >>> >> >> Also we need an extra back/co-mentor for this project :)<br>
>>> >>> >> >><br>
>>> >>> >> >> Cheers,<br>
>>> >>> >> >> houqp<br>
>>> >>> >> >><br>
>>> >>> >> >> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alessandro Cosentino<br>
>>> >>> >> >> <<a href="mailto:cosenal@gmail.com">cosenal@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> Hi,<br>
>>> >>> >> >>><br>
>>> >>> >> >>> I am happy to announce a collaboration between openSUSE and<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> ownCloud<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> to participate in GSoC 2013.<br>
>>> >>> >> >>><br>
>>> >>> >> >>> As most of you know, in the last year we have participated<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> under<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> KDE.<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> This is no longer possible, so this year our projects will be<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> hosted<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> under openSUSE.<br>
>>> >>> >> >>><br>
>>> >>> >> >>> I created a section for ownCloud projects on the openSUSE<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> wiki:<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> <a href="https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GSOC_ideas#ownCloud" target="_blank">https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GSOC_ideas#ownCloud</a><br>
>>> >>> >> >>> If you are interested in mentoring a project (and you<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> should!),<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> please<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> list it there.<br>
>>> >>> >> >>><br>
>>> >>> >> >>> Some students have already shown interest for some projects,<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> namely:<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> - an app for Prey<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> - integration with Shiva<br>
>>> >>> >> >>><br>
>>> >>> >> >>> See related emails in the mailing list.<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> It would be awesome if you could stand up and volunteer to<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> mentor<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> these projects.<br>
>>> >>> >> >>><br>
>>> >>> >> >>> Alessandro<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> Owncloud mailing list<br>
>>> >>> >> >>> <a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br>
>>> >>> >> >>> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud</a><br>
>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> >>> >> >> Owncloud mailing list<br>
>>> >>> >> >> <a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br>
>>> >>> >> >> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud</a><br>
>>> >>> >> ><br>
>>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________<br>
>>> >>> >> > Owncloud mailing list<br>
>>> >>> >> > <a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br>
>>> >>> >> > <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud</a><br>
>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> >>> >> Owncloud mailing list<br>
>>> >>> >> <a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br>
>>> >>> >> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud</a><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > _______________________________________________<br>
>>> >>> > Owncloud mailing list<br>
>>> >>> > <a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br>
>>> >>> > <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud</a><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > --<br>
>>> >>> > Jörn Friedrich Dreyer (<a href="mailto:jfd@owncloud.com">jfd@owncloud.com</a>)<br>
>>> >>> > Software Developer<br>
>>> >>> > ownCloud GmbH<br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > Your Data, Your Cloud, Your Way!<br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > ownCloud GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, Holger Dyroff<br>
>>> >>> > Schloßäckerstrasse 26a, 90443 Nürnberg, HRB 28050 (AG Nürnberg)<br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > _______________________________________________<br>
>>> >>> > Owncloud mailing list<br>
>>> >>> > <a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br>
>>> >>> > <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud</a><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> >>> Owncloud mailing list<br>
>>> >>> <a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br>
>>> >>> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud</a><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> >> Owncloud mailing list<br>
>>> >> <a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br>
>>> >> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud</a><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> --<br>
>>> >> Jörn Friedrich Dreyer (<a href="mailto:jfd@owncloud.com">jfd@owncloud.com</a>)<br>
>>> >> Software Developer<br>
>>> >> ownCloud GmbH<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Your Data, Your Cloud, Your Way!<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> ownCloud GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, Holger Dyroff<br>
>>> >> Schloßäckerstrasse 26a, 90443 Nürnberg, HRB 28050 (AG Nürnberg)<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> >> Owncloud mailing list<br>
>>> >> <a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br>
>>> >> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud</a><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> > _______________________________________________<br>
>>> > Owncloud mailing list<br>
>>> > <a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br>
>>> > <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud</a><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> Owncloud mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br>
>>> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Sincerely,<br>
>> Raghu<br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> Owncloud mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br>
>> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud</a><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Owncloud mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br>
> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud</a><br>
><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Owncloud mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud</a><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Sincerely,<br>Raghu Nayyar<br>Undergraduate,<br>B.E. Mechanical Engineering <br>BITS-Pilani, KK Birla Goa Campus<br>E-mail: <a href="mailto:me@iraghu.com" target="_blank">me@iraghu.com</a><br>
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