<div dir="ltr">What are we discussing here?<div><br></div><div>It’s honestly ridiculous to have such a big discussion about petty things like a default reply-to header, on the list of a project which is concerned with solving actual problems, for many people. If you have time to kill, please look at ownCloud’s current issues and help us fix them: <a href="https://github.com/owncloud/core/issues?state=open">https://github.com/owncloud/core/issues?state=open</a> – thank you!<div>
<br></div><div>Regarding the original discussion – if it should be changed, please just contact the mailing list manager and they will decide if it makes sense, no need for bikeshedding on here. Then again, I think the mailing list manager is Frank, and he’s swamped doing actual work on the release, so please don’t bother now.</div>
<div><br></div><div style>Sorry for the harsh tone, but we’re close to releasing ownCloud 5 and all of you people’s time is better spent testing and fixing it rather than in this thread. If you want to be awesome, help out!</div>
<div><br></div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:51 PM, MJ Ray <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mjr@phonecoop.coop" target="_blank">mjr@phonecoop.coop</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Diederik de Haas <<a href="mailto:didi.debian@cknow.org">didi.debian@cknow.org</a>><br>
> Even though my mail client supports reply-to-list perfectly, I (too) think it's<br>
> a good suggestion.<br>
> What is the downside of setting this header?<br>
<br>
It punishes people who have fully-working email software. Consider<br>
the potential damage in the intended use cases:<br>
<br>
With Reply-To overwritten:<br>
<br>
A1. if Reply-To set and the mail client supports List-Post =><br>
list-reply command works but the direct-reply command is broken and<br>
does the same as list-reply, no way to recover an off-list reply<br>
command except manual editing, so some private messages will become<br>
public.<br>
<br>
A2. if Reply-To set and the mail client ignores List-Post => reply<br>
goes to list, no way to recover off-list reply command except manual<br>
editing, so some private messages will become public.<br>
<br>
Leaving Reply-To alone:<br>
<br>
B1. if the mail client supports List-Post => list-reply command<br>
works, reply command works fully. No problems.<br>
<br>
B2. if the mail client ignores List-Post => reply goes direct, user of<br>
incomplete client has to use Reply-All or edit the recipients, but<br>
some list messages will go privately.<br>
<br>
What's the bigger danger? Private messages being published (maybe<br>
embarrasing or worse), or people who use buggy mail clients having to<br>
resend a few accidentally-unpublished messages?<br>
<br>
And why should users of list-RFC-supporting clients be punished by their<br>
private messages going public if they overlook the overwriting, just<br>
so users of worse clients don't risk public messages going private?<br>
Shouldn't we reward people who use standards-supporting software?<br>
<br>
If a mail client doesn't support List-Post properly, report the bug -<br>
and fix it if you can (it's free and open source software, right?)<br>
<br>
Hope that informs,<br>
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