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    Debian Wheezy is frozen for some months now.<br>
    Its just impossible to get the most recent version in a Debian
    Stable release.<br>
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    But that doesn't take away the fact a recent  version in Unstable is
    just possible :)<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 29-10-12 19:27, Patric Zimmermann
      schreef:<br>
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      <div>fair enough Georg. </div>
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      <div>...but sadly it's only the 4.0 release and not the 4.5.</div>
      <div>I hope when wheezy becomes stable, that this will come at
        least with the 4.0.8 release...</div>
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      <div>just my 2 ct.</div>
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        <div>Am 29.10.2012 um 19:11 schrieb Georg Ehrke:</div>
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            -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">It's already in
            wheezy.
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                <div>On 29.10.2012, at 18:52, Patric Zimmermann <<a
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                  wrote:</div>
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                <blockquote type="cite">@all:<br>
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                  Rather than the OC-Client, for me it would be more
                  important to get the OC-Server into the debian repo.<br>
                  For me personally debian is one of the most stable
                  linux distros out there, thus it is rather meant to be
                  a server (as in my case)<br>
                  than a client....<br>
                  <br>
                  just my 2 ct.<br>
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                  Am 29.10.2012 um 17:56 schrieb Diederik de Haas:<br>
                  <br>
                  <blockquote type="cite">On Monday 29 October 2012
                    17:22:04 Klaas Freitag wrote:<br>
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                      <blockquote type="cite">Yes.<br>
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                      Why btw?<br>
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                    Speaking for myself (of course):<br>
                    I rarely install packages outside of the Debian
                    repositories and I think users <br>
                    of Debian (especially stable) should do so too,
                    unless you really "need" a pkg <br>
                    which is not (or can not, ie <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://deb-multimedia.org/">deb-multimedia.org</a>)
                    distributed by Debian.<br>
                    I have 2 main reasons for that:<br>
                    - Debian (Developers and infrastructure) does a lot
                    to make sure all packages <br>
                    meet some quality standards, that it's checked
                    legally (licenses) and most <br>
                    importantly that the various pkgs in the archive
                    work seamlessly together and <br>
                    can be managed by the standard tools<br>
                    - I think ppl should be discouraged by installing
                    'random' pkgs from the <br>
                    internet. The pkgs in Debian are checksummed,
                    digitally signed and the integrity <br>
                    of a pkg is checked before it gets installed on your
                    system.<br>
                    Randomly downloading and installing programs is why
                    windows is so plagued by <br>
                    virusses/trojan-horses/etc. I think the whole ppa
                    thing from ubuntu is <br>
                    (therefor) a bad idea.<br>
                    <br>
                    This does not mean that pkgs outside the Debian
                    repositories are bad or provided <br>
                    with malicious intend.<br>
                    <br>
                    <blockquote type="cite">The idea of doing it in the
                      buildservice is to provide the users with <br>
                      the latest versions quickly after release, which
                      is important to users <br>
                      especially of Ubuntu and friends. We get that
                      feedback regularly.<br>
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                    I can't speak for Ubuntu, but owncloud 4.0.8 pkgs
                    were in Debian unstable the <br>
                    night 4.0.8 was released. Thomas (deepdiver) does an
                    excellent job wrt packaging <br>
                    owncloud for Debian :-)<br>
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                    HTH,<br>
                    Diederik<br>
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