<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>I'd also like to see us move over to Github for our repository hosting and issue tracker. I think it would be hugely beneficial to have an integrated issue tracker, where we can reference commits easily. As Georg also said, we would get tracker for each repo which would really help keep things organised. </div><div><br></div><div>The current bug tracker (although functional) leaves a lot to be desired, and with every update they seem to introduce a different bug. Just look at <a href="http://bugs.owncloud.org/thebuggenie/issues/my">http://bugs.owncloud.org/thebuggenie/issues/my</a> if you haven't already. The page load times are also becoming unacceptable. We need to make it as easy as possible to keep things organised! </div><div><br></div><div>If we moved to Github we would not have to worry about these problems and the user management would be integrated.</div><div><br></div><div>I know it will be a pain to move, but I think it will pay off with a much better workflow afterwards.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Tom</div><div><br></div><div>Tom Needham</div><div><a href="mailto:tom@owncloud.com">tom@owncloud.com</a></div><div><br></div><div>On 30 Apr 2012, at 15:49, Georg Ehrke wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hi,<br>I can only agree to Jan.<br><br>Am 28.04.2012 um 22:43 schrieb Klaas Freitag:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On 28.04.2012 22:21, Jan-Christoph Borchardt wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Not to open a can of worms (again),<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">lol<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">..[Github is more hip and better]..<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Software freedom – and in this case the freedom of the software we use<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">for development – is just a means, not an end. Our goal is the freedom<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">of others, that of the people we make the software for. And that can<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">be achieved best& fastest by using Github and by leveraging a vast<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">range of enthusiastic developers& designers which are, as it is,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">mostly on Github.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">This discussion is the "vi or emacs" discussion of these days. What you basically say is that for our goal to produce free software it does not matter if the basics we use for that is free, as long its the best.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I heard that 100x and still I don't buy it. It's wrong. Freedom requires freedom,<br></blockquote>Linus actually hosted Linux on Github when <a href="http://kernel.org">kernel.org</a> was down ;)<br><blockquote type="cite">its not working otherwise. Thought into an extreme, look how nice github could harm free software by simply switching off.<br></blockquote>Gitorious could switch off as well.<br><blockquote type="cite">(Yes, I also know that git is de-central, but still, you get the idea.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Apart from that, I am tired of the discussion of course and don't really care from where I do git pull. The argument against our bugtracker however does not count for me here.<br></blockquote>I have to agree to Jan in this point too. Our Bugtracker works, but i would appreciate github issues.<br>Further more we would have separated issue pages for the different repositories. (core, apps, desktop client, android client)<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">regards,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Klaas<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>Cheers,<br>Georg<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Klaas Freitag<<a href="mailto:freitag@owncloud.com">freitag@owncloud.com</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 27.04.2012 18:46, Georg Ehrke wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hi Georg,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">btw. i was always interested why we use gitorious and not github?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I think (and hope) that is because gitorious is free software while github<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">is propietory. That is a value for us.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">regards,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Klaas<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Owncloud mailing list<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>Owncloud mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Owncloud@kde.org">Owncloud@kde.org</a><br>https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud<br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>