I think also we must remain as a desktop-neutral project. But I think the desktop client is being developed as a KDE app, and that put us closer to the KDE infrastructure.<br><br>Cheers.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jan-Christoph Borchardt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:JanCBorchardt@fsfe.org">JanCBorchardt@fsfe.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I agree 100% with what Aaron said.<br>
<br>
Before I started contributing to ownCloud I thought it was a KDE project<br>
and to be honest, was almost put off by that. (Although I use GNOME and<br>
contributed to that & Ubuntu, I consider myself a web person above any<br>
desktop affiliation.)<br>
<br>
The KDE community and infrastructure sure is great but I believe that<br>
there are "neutral" platforms which are even better. Such as Transifex and<br>
Gitorious, where the project was very visible and had 45 forks already.<br>
While I know this is not a measure, getting an account at KDE identity and<br>
requesting developer access is a hurdle. As primarily a web project we<br>
should power other free web platforms (as we already do with Identi.ca to<br>
an extent). I‘m not pushing for this but I think we should change sooner<br>
or later.<br>
<br>
Though we are all volunteers we must understand that ownCloud has the<br>
potential to (or rather currently already is) the best free & open-source<br>
alternative to projects such as Dropbox & iCloud/MobileMe. Thus we have<br>
to, as Aaron said, embrace other web projects and not, if I may say so,<br>
limit us in the security that KDE offers. Nearly every day I see someone<br>
ask for a real Dropbox alternative and people have to refer to SpiderOak<br>
or Wuala which are not a solution.<br>
<br>
We need to be more visible and (through that) more known. I‘m sure people<br>
can‘t wait to use & contribute to ownCloud.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
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<br>
On Mon, July 25, 2011 10:55, Aaron Reichman wrote:<br>
> Personally, I like the idea of strengthening our ties to other projects<br>
by<br>
> being a separate entity that interacts equally with everybody like<br>
Apache,<br>
> Wordpress and other server based projects. I think we run the risk of<br>
becoming the KDE cloud otherwise when we could be the open/free cloud.<br>
Nobody else is doing the things we're doing in the way we're doing them<br>
and<br>
> I think we should make the most of the situation we find ourselves in.<br>
Nothing stops us from being just as involved in KDE as we are now while<br>
becoming more involved with gnome, XFCE, enlightenment and whoever else<br>
wants to help us out.<br>
><br>
</div><div class="im">> That being said, I have no problems with being a KDE project, either.<br>
KDE<br>
> is<br>
> an amazing community and we should be proud to be a part of it. I just<br>
think<br>
> we can maintain a great relationship with KDE without sacrificing other<br>
possible relationships. Whatever the group decides I'm fine with, just<br>
wanted to put in my $0.02.<br>
<br>
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