From nolden@kde.org Sat Mar 22 06:19:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Received: (qmail 27711 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2003 06:19:41 -0000 Received: from ms-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de (HELO ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de) (134.130.3.130) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 06:19:40 -0000 Received: from ms-2 (ms-2 [134.130.3.131]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HC400J5ZZZ49O@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de> for novehrady@mail.kde.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 07:13:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([134.130.3.1]) by ms-2 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 07:13:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from 192.168.1.10 (p509273A9.dip.t-dialin.net [80.146.115.169]) by relay.rwth-aachen.de (8.12.8/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h2M6Dpfv011095 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 07:13:51 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 07:13:51 +0100 From: Ralf Nolden Subject: Test To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Message-id: <200303220713.51108.nolden@kde.org> Organization: The KDesktop Environment MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Content-description: clearsigned data User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.5 tests=NOSPAM_INC,PGP_SIGNATURE,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,UPPERCASE_25_50, USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.44 X-Spam-Level: Resent-Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Resent-From: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailing-List: Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Errors-To: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I think konference@kde.org would have been a lot better for spelling *grmbl* - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Nolden nolden@kde.org The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+e/8fu0nKi+w1Ky8RAhoMAJ9RsgbjF5MKQMPWZdIrVR2eI+Yk/gCfeZIh yHcgsE+P5mCPfoPxr+tv3mU= =1Buz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kde.org-novehrady-owner@kde.org Sat Mar 22 12:37:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Received: (qmail 17335 invoked by uid 1055); 22 Mar 2003 12:37:35 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 17332 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2003 12:37:35 -0000 Received: from smtp-out.comcast.net (HELO smtp.comcast.net) (24.153.64.109) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 12:37:32 -0000 Received: from master.hackerbuero.org (pcp02139741pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net [68.48.31.42]) by mtaout11.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HC50039BHOY7G@mtaout11.icomcast.net> for novehrady@kde.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 07:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from alexandria.intranet.hackerbuero.org (alexandria.intranet.hackerbuero.org [192.168.1.6]) by master.hackerbuero.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059F5290C4 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 07:36:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 02:36:43 -0500 From: Mirko Boehm Subject: Re: Test In-reply-to: <200303220713.51108.nolden@kde.org> To: novehrady@kde.org Message-id: <200303220236.46599.mirko@hackerbuero.org> Organization: hackerbuero.org MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Content-description: clearsigned data User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200303220713.51108.nolden@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.5 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_RFCI,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,UPPERCASE_25_50,USER_AGENT version=2.44 X-Spam-Level: * Resent-Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Resent-From: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailing-List: Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Errors-To: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 22 March 2003 01:13, Ralf Nolden wrote: > I think konference@kde.org would have been a lot better for spelling > *grmbl* Absolutely :-) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+fBKOYSSaITCTnKURAoWVAJ4901nmR0MEIIR8zPa/wrQ++yQJLQCgm7dl ZYIuVddul0iU/jFMvjUx9AU= =7Ft/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kde.org-novehrady-owner@kde.org Sat Mar 22 14:45:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Received: (qmail 14799 invoked by uid 1055); 22 Mar 2003 14:45:37 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 14797 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2003 14:45:37 -0000 Received: from gate2.danka.de (HELO firewall.danka.de) (62.154.236.58) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 14:45:37 -0000 Received: from [10.160.32.5] (helo=mailgw.danka.de) by firewall.danka.de with esmtp (Exim 6.66 #1) id 18wkEc-0005Op-00 for novehrady@kde.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 15:44:34 +0100 Received: from danka.de ([10.160.51.60]) by mailgw.danka.de (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HC5NUW00.V7O; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 15:49:44 +0100 Message-ID: <3E7C7936.4070101@danka.de> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 15:54:46 +0100 From: "Kurt Pfeifle" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021204 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: novehrady@kde.org Subject: Test X-Enigmail-Version: 0.71.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanner: exiscan *18wkEc-0005Op-00*SyhBbOlIpsM* on Astaro Security Linux X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.5 tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.44 X-Spam-Level: Resent-Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Resent-From: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailing-List: Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Errors-To: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: A list name like "konference@kde.org" is not just easier to spell, but also easier to re-use next year or in 2005. Or do you want to limit events like that to a time frame like the Olympic Games? ;-) Cheers, Kurt From kde.org-novehrady-owner@kde.org Sat Mar 22 17:49:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Received: (qmail 5463 invoked by uid 1055); 22 Mar 2003 17:49:18 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 5459 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2003 17:49:18 -0000 Received: from ms-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de (HELO ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de) (134.130.3.130) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 17:49:18 -0000 Received: from ms-1 (ms-dienst.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.132]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HC500LPBW6486@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de>; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:49:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([134.130.3.1]) by ms-1 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:49:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from 192.168.1.10 (p509273A9.dip.t-dialin.net [80.146.115.169]) by relay.rwth-aachen.de (8.12.8/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h2MHnEfv020586; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:49:15 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:49:14 +0100 From: Ralf Nolden Subject: Re: Test In-reply-to: <200303220236.46599.mirko@hackerbuero.org> To: novehrady@kde.org, Mirko Boehm Cc: Dirk Mueller Message-id: <200303221849.14280.nolden@kde.org> Organization: The KDesktop Environment MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Content-description: clearsigned data User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200303220713.51108.nolden@kde.org> <200303220236.46599.mirko@hackerbuero.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.4 required=5.5 tests=IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,PGP_SIGNATURE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.44 X-Spam-Level: Resent-Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Resent-From: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailing-List: Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Errors-To: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 22 March 2003 08:36, Mirko Boehm wrote: > On Saturday 22 March 2003 01:13, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > I think konference@kde.org would have been a lot better for spelling > > *grmbl* > > Absolutely :-) Dirk ? Can we please change that ? :-) Thanks ! :-) Ralf > > _______________________________________________ > NoveHrady mailing list > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Nolden nolden@kde.org The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+fKIau0nKi+w1Ky8RAhfKAJ9jGeUVmlcuglF6JcVWSWBkLzYkIQCgnBbP H/EMnMTajZDn3wQVOYDN9XA= =vy+j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ettrich@trolltech.com Tue Mar 25 18:50:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Received: (qmail 15283 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 18:50:25 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 18:50:22 -0000 Received: from jeunehomme.troll.no ([80.232.37.158]:20372 "EHLO jeunehomme.troll.no" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:49:59 +0100 From: Matthias Ettrich Organization: Trolltech To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Subject: Jirka Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:48:20 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303251948.20409.ettrich@trolltech.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.8 required=5.5 tests=USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) Resent-Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Resent-From: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailing-List: Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Errors-To: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Thanks for setting up the list. I asked Jirka to subscribe. Matthias From kde.org-novehrady-owner@kde.org Wed Mar 26 12:04:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Received: (qmail 26611 invoked by uid 1055); 26 Mar 2003 12:04:20 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 26609 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 12:04:19 -0000 Received: from ip-213157009013.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.9.13) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 12:04:18 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23]) by wlgw.me (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h2QB3cf15320 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:03:39 +0100 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: novehrady@kde.org Subject: Welcome Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:06:50 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303261306.51346.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.5 tests=PGP_SIGNATURE,USER_AGENT version=2.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) Resent-Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Resent-From: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailing-List: Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Errors-To: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org X-Reply-To: eva@kde.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Welcome to everyone to this list, I am sure we will achieve a great confere= nce=20 in August! I have one first thing. During CeBIT we talked to many companies (mainly=20 well-known ones like Siemens, HP, IBM, etc.) about sponsorship and the=20 ability that their development people take part. Now I'd like to send furth= er=20 information to our contact persons. Therefore I'd like to validate the=20 following: 23.+24.8. KDE conference for everyone 25.8. tutorials for external people Price: 1000 =E2=82=AC If you are interested, we also can draft a newsletter together so that it c= an=20 be reused by everyone who knows potential sponsors. Greetings, eva =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gZfaTaAgihPikKQRAlcwAJ9H8p/aiOlzchbWmyGVibq1rjHIQACeNE6H EARqxi+CF21CDaIXoAc4esM=3D =3Dpwps =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kde.org-novehrady-owner@kde.org Wed Mar 26 12:42:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Received: (qmail 32319 invoked by uid 1055); 26 Mar 2003 12:42:41 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 32223 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 12:42:36 -0000 Received: from cdt1.tz-juelich.de (HELO gauss.credativ.org) (195.37.52.66) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 12:42:36 -0000 Received: from www.credativ.de (unknown [10.14.7.1]) by gauss.credativ.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC62B1FF60; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:46:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from thinkpad.credativ.de (thinkpad.credativ.de [172.26.14.52]) by www.credativ.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B95A1C006C; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:42:58 +0100 (CET) From: Ralf Nolden Organization: The KDesktop Environment To: novehrady@kde.org, Eva Brucherseifer Subject: Re: Welcome Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:42:34 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200303261306.51346.eva@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200303261306.51346.eva@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303261342.34310.nolden@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-38.2 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) Resent-Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Resent-From: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailing-List: Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Errors-To: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 26 March 2003 13:06, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > Welcome to everyone to this list, I am sure we will achieve a great > conference in August! > > I have one first thing. During CeBIT we talked to many companies (mainly > well-known ones like Siemens, HP, IBM, etc.) about sponsorship and the > ability that their development people take part. Now I'd like to send > further information to our contact persons. Therefore I'd like to validate > the following: > > 23.+24.8. KDE conference for everyone > 25.8. tutorials for external people That means participants can come from outside - limited to max of 20 people= -=20 for the duration of 3 days between 23. and 25. august, including 2 days of= =20 direct peer-to-peer training with core kde developers and one day training= =20 sessions on kde development internals ? Then we'd need to specify the conference program and the training program, = or=20 ? Ralf > > Price: 1000 =E2=82=AC > > If you are interested, we also can draft a newsletter together so that it > can be reused by everyone who knows potential sponsors. > > Greetings, > eva > > _______________________________________________ > NoveHrady mailing list > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady =2D --=20 We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. =2D -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Nolden nolden@kde.org The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gaA6u0nKi+w1Ky8RAl8FAJ9QTmF553mXjc2NXnUhKNNQx3yFXgCgmKHD 6D/l42OsCn8ZqhQ8StVBtIE=3D =3D62/X =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kde.org-novehrady-owner@kde.org Wed Mar 26 13:10:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Received: (qmail 7763 invoked by uid 1055); 26 Mar 2003 13:10:10 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 7761 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 13:10:10 -0000 Received: from gate2.danka.de (HELO firewall.danka.de) (62.154.236.58) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 13:10:09 -0000 Received: from [10.160.32.5] (helo=mailgw.danka.de) by firewall.danka.de with esmtp (Exim 6.66 #1) id 18yAeQ-0008Ct-00 for novehrady@kde.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:09:06 +0100 Received: from danka.de ([10.160.51.60]) by mailgw.danka.de (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HCCY4200.3GB; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:14:26 +0100 Message-ID: <3E81A8CB.2020909@danka.de> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:19:07 +0100 From: "Kurt Pfeifle" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021204 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: novehrady@kde.org Subject: Re: Welcome References: <200303261306.51346.eva@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200303261306.51346.eva@kde.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.71.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanner: exiscan *18yAeQ-0008Ct-00*36y5VC9x9T.* on Astaro Security Linux X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-31.9 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA version=2.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) Resent-Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Resent-From: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailing-List: Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Errors-To: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > Welcome to everyone to this list, I am sure we will achieve a great conference > in August! > > I have one first thing. During CeBIT we talked to many companies (mainly > well-known ones like Siemens, HP, IBM, etc.) about sponsorship and the > ability that their development people take part. Now I'd like to send further > information to our contact persons. Therefore I'd like to validate the > following: > > 23.+24.8. KDE conference for everyone > 25.8. tutorials for external people > > Price: 1000 ¬ I'd put it under one heading: 23.-25.8. Conference and Tutorials (while you can still have the timing as indicated). (Also, I'm not sure if "professionals", send by their companies, like to come for a weekend. But probably there is not much choice now, and I am curious how well it will be accepted). > If you are interested, we also can draft a newsletter together so that it can > be reused by everyone who knows potential sponsors. Good idea. > Greetings, > eva Cheers, Kurt From kde.org-novehrady-owner@kde.org Wed Mar 26 13:17:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Received: (qmail 8680 invoked by uid 1055); 26 Mar 2003 13:17:28 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 8678 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2003 13:17:28 -0000 Received: from ip-213157009013.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.9.13) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 13:17:26 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23]) by wlgw.me (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h2QCGlf15556 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:16:48 +0100 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: novehrady@kde.org Subject: Re: Welcome Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:19:59 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200303261306.51346.eva@kde.org> <200303261342.34310.nolden@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200303261342.34310.nolden@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303261419.59988.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-33.0 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT version=2.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) Resent-Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Resent-From: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailing-List: Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Errors-To: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org X-Reply-To: eva@kde.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 26 March 2003 13:42, you wrote: > On Wednesday 26 March 2003 13:06, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > > Welcome to everyone to this list, I am sure we will achieve a great > > conference in August! > > > > I have one first thing. During CeBIT we talked to many companies (mainly > > well-known ones like Siemens, HP, IBM, etc.) about sponsorship and the > > ability that their development people take part. Now I'd like to send > > further information to our contact persons. Therefore I'd like to > > validate the following: > > > > 23.+24.8. KDE conference for everyone > > 25.8. tutorials for external people > > That means participants can come from outside - limited to max of 20 peop= le Yes, limited to 20. That maybe also motivates them to register early ;-) > - for the duration of 3 days between 23. and 25. august, including 2 days > of direct peer-to-peer training with core kde developers and one day > training sessions on kde development internals ? What do you mean by peer-to-peer training? In my understanding the conference part is everything that is of interest t= o=20 all KDE people and that consists of talks. Company participants can take pa= rt=20 and might be invited to give a talk themselves, e.g. the usability guys at= =20 Siemens who did a study on KDE/Gnome.=20 On the third day most KDE people already can start with workshops, hacking = or=20 whatever and some can do the training on KDE development internals.=20 > > Then we'd need to specify the conference program and the training program, > or ? Well, sooner or layter you'll have to do that anyways. But we are more or l= ess=20 in the "call for papers" phase, are we?=20 Don't understand me wrong, I don't want to interfere with conference/traini= ng=20 planing, I just want to get it right. Greetings, eva > > Ralf > > > Price: 1000 =E2=82=AC > > > > If you are interested, we also can draft a newsletter together so that = it > > can be reused by everyone who knows potential sponsors. > > > > Greetings, > > eva > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NoveHrady mailing list > > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gaj/TaAgihPikKQRAn0yAJ4tjDzz48db7QvgA/JoOACrs37sbwCfTBAw oMv309xcRogeGwL92t70dLE=3D =3DrR9R =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kosicek@greentech.cz Fri Mar 28 13:09:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Received: (qmail 713 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 13:09:18 -0000 Received: from leaf.ufb.jcu.cz (HELO leaf.greentech.cz) (160.217.215.2) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 13:09:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by leaf.greentech.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4B38AF for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:12:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from 160.217.215.84 ( [160.217.215.84]) as user kosicek@192.168.1.1 by leaf.greentech.cz with HTTP; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:09:15 +0100 Message-ID: <1048856955.3e84497bd53d4@leaf.greentech.cz> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:09:15 +0100 From: kosicek@greentech.cz To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Subject: Welcome MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.5 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,USER_AGENT_IMP version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Resent-Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Resent-From: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailing-List: Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Errors-To: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Welcome to everyone to this list. my name is Jirka Kosicek, and I will be reponsible here in Nove Hrady for the technical organisation of the Linux conference KDE4. For any questions regarding webregistration, technical aspects of the conference and stuff like that, please feel free to contact me by email. Greetings Jirka Kosicek ----------------------------------------- Academic and University Center Nove Hrady Zamek 136 ; CZ-37333 ; Nove Hrady ; CZ website:https://www.greentech.cz From kde.org-novehrady-owner@kde.org Mon Mar 31 10:59:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Received: (qmail 14602 invoked by uid 1055); 31 Mar 2003 10:59:24 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 14582 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 10:59:22 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 10:59:19 -0000 Received: from jeunehomme.troll.no ([80.232.37.158]:55251 "EHLO jeunehomme.troll.no" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:58:56 +0200 From: Matthias Ettrich Organization: Trolltech To: novehrady@kde.org Subject: Conference [ was: Re: Welcome] Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:55:48 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.7 References: <200303261306.51346.eva@kde.org> <200303261342.34310.nolden@kde.org> <200303261419.59988.eva@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200303261419.59988.eva@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303311255.48846.ettrich@trolltech.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-31.9 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Resent-Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Resent-From: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailing-List: Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Errors-To: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: On Wednesday 26 March 2003 14:19, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: Hello from me, too, sorry for not posting earlier. [snip] > > > > That means participants can come from outside - limited to max of 20 > > people > > Yes, limited to 20. That maybe also motivates them to register early ;-) > Where does the limitation come from? If we have space for hundreds of people in the audience rooms and the catering can handle it, why not allow more people to join (granted we give decent student discounts)? Jirka, can you post information on the availability of conference rooms, and their sizes? I also heared somebody mentioning that there might be interest to have a small GNU/Linux exhibition on one day, associated with the conference. This can attract even more visitors and more local press. If they like to organize something in that direction _and_ there's enough space in the castle, what's our position? Matthias From kde.org-novehrady-owner@kde.org Tue Apr 01 09:13:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Received: (qmail 28464 invoked by uid 1055); 1 Apr 2003 09:13:42 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 28462 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2003 09:13:41 -0000 Received: from leaf.ufb.jcu.cz (HELO leaf.greentech.cz) (160.217.215.2) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2003 09:13:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by leaf.greentech.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531798DC for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:16:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 160.217.215.109 ( [160.217.215.109]) as user kosicek@192.168.1.1 by leaf.greentech.cz with HTTP; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:13:44 +0200 Message-ID: <1049188424.3e89584869d03@leaf.greentech.cz> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:13:44 +0200 From: kosicek@greentech.cz To: novehrady@kde.org Subject: Re: Conference [ was: Re: Welcome] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=5.5 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,USER_AGENT_IMP version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Resent-Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Resent-From: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailing-List: Sender: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org Errors-To: novehrady-admin@mail.kde.org X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Quoting Matthias Ettrich : > > Where does the limitation come from? > > If we have space for hundreds of people in the audience rooms and the > catering > can handle it, why not allow more people to join (granted we give decent > student discounts)? > > Jirka, can you post information on the availability of conference rooms, and > > their sizes? > > I also heared somebody mentioning that there might be interest to have a > small > GNU/Linux exhibition on one day, associated with the conference. This can > attract even more visitors and more local press. If they like to organize > something in that direction _and_ there's enough space in the castle, what's > > our position? > > Matthias > _______________________________________________ Hi, as you requested, I send a list of space available in the castle: Historical rooms: 1. Theatre: 110 people 2. Mirror Hall: 80 people 3. Blue Hall: quite big, but of round shape, 60 people for sitting at tables, we normally serve meals there during conferences. 4.+5. Two smaller rooms, that we use normally for Poster sessions, but can be used also for workshop purposes, 30 people each 6. Error Bar: Not really for working purposes, but relaxation, available Darts, Billiard, Beer...;-) 7. Entrance Hall, quite big, can be used for registration and commercial exhibition. Not historical, but also pretty nice: 8. Conference Room, classical conference room with long round table in the middle, 15 people 9. Small conference room, also classical conference room, 8 people 10. Computer Lab I, 10 computer working places 11. Computer Lab II, 30 computer working places The Theatre and the Mirror Hall are fully equipped for conference purposes permanently (Data projector, Sound, Light, Table etc.). For the other rooms we have moveable equipment that can be installed as needed. Hopefully that is the information you wanted Greetings Jirka ----------------------------------------- Academic and University Center Nove Hrady Zamek 136 ; CZ-37333 ; Nove Hrady ; CZ website:https://www.greentech.cz From nobody Sat Apr 12 19:48:51 2003 Received: (qmail 28182 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2003 17:48:15 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2003 17:48:11 -0000 Received: from jeunehomme.troll.no ([80.232.37.158]:61064 "EHLO jeunehomme.troll.no" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:42:20 +0200 From: Matthias Ettrich Organization: Trolltech To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:41:12 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304121759.07566.ettrich@trolltech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-14.4 required=5.5 tests=AWL,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: CFP - draft X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 17:48:16 -0000 Hi, Kalle compiled a draft for a CFP (see below, thank you Kalle), heavily inspired by the Linux Tag. Given the meaningful deadlines, we need to get this out really soon now. What might still be improved is the list of fields: - Qt programming tricks - kdelibs programming tricks - DCOP development - KParts development - KOffice development - aRts development - programming tools - programming patterns and development strategies - project management issues - internationalization - documentation - ... Since we say that "Everything KDE-related will be considered", maybe we don't have to be that specific? What about talks on real-world projects deploying KDE in a big scale? The conference is meant to be interesting for KDE developer as well, maybe there is some real interest in seeing how our code is used out there? And maybe we should stress the fact that we also plan to do a 15 min presentation track, where KDE authors have the possibility to present their work to other interested developers, potentially gaining new contributors and co-developers. Ralf, others, any futher comments? Kalle, are you subscribed to novehrady@kde.org list? Matthias --------------------- KDE Developers' Conference - Call for Papers August 2xth to 2xth Zamek, Nov´e Hrady, Czech Republic Conference Program The KDE Developers' Conference is a meeting of worldwide KDE gathers. It will start with two days of technical talks and end with a three-day hacking session. Besides, there will be lots of time for socializing. Do you have a particular expertise related to KDE programming that could be useful for your fellow developers? Do you want to present a particular programming pattern, a tool, a development strategy, or anything else that helps KDE developers become more productive? Then consider talking about it at the KDE Developers' Conference. We sollicit submissions for presentations from, but not restricted to the following fields. Everything KDE-related will be considered. - Qt programming tricks - kdelibs programming tricks - DCOP development - KParts development - KOffice development - aRts development - programming tools - programming patterns and development strategies - project management issues - internationalization - documentation - ... Technical talks will be scheduled for 45 minutes talk and 15 minutes Q&A. In some cases, it may be possible to occupy two slots for a total talk time of 90 minutes. Please note this in your abstract if you require this. There will also be room for short presentations of 15 minutes each, and submissions for these are very welcome as well. Finally, BoF sessions can be announced in advance or planned on the spot. A limited number of group rooms will be available for BoFs. Submission Guidelines Submissions will be accepted only electronically. Those proposing to present papers should submit an abstract and a brief biography using a form by email to nove-hrady-comittee@kde.org. The conference language is English. The abstracts will be reviewed by the program committee based on content, presentation and suitability for the event. Accepted speakers will be notified and will be required to submit a written paper of about ten pages (two to three pages for short presentations) for inclusion in the conference proceedings. The papers must be in an XML/DocBook format. Detailed guidelines will be provided to accepted speakers. Submissions violating these rules or the formatting guidelines may not be considered for publication. Licensing of Accepted Papers On acceptance, authors will be required to sign a Free Document License that grants an unlimited, non-exclusive right to KDE e. V. and its partners to publish the papers both in electronic form on CD-ROM and the website and in paper form for the conference proceedings and magazines. Your submission indicates that you agree to these terms. Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreement forms can not be accepted, and will not be reviewed. Papers will be held in full confidence during the reviewing process. Authors of accepted papers will be encouraged to supply electronic versions of their papers, as well as source code and raw data to help others replicate and better understand their results. Location The KDE Developers' Conference will take place at the Zamek ("Castle") in Nove Hrady in the Northern part of the Czech Republic in Central Europe. Nove Hrady cannot easily be reached by public transportations, but a shuttle service will be provided from Prague-Ruzyne airport and Prague Central Station. Speaker Incentives and Financial Compensation The KDE Developers' Conference is run by KDE e.V., a non-profit organizationof volunteering professionals and enthusiasts of free and open-source software. We only have a limited budget for this conference, and cannot generally pay travel expenses or any other reimbursement or gratification to speakers. We can provide accomodation and boarding at a very low price (expect about 15-20 Euros per day for full board and lodging, but don't expect luxury accomodation), and the shuttle service from and to Prague will be free of charge. KDE e.V. is solliciting donations from companies and individuals towards this conference. These donations will be used both for running the conference and for bursaries for delegates from other continents and/or without income. These bursaries will be given according to the following priorities: - Delegates with an accepted paper, no or low income and a residence outside of Europe. - Delegates with an accepted paper and no or low income. - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, with no income and a residence outside of Europe. - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, with no income. - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership with a residence outside of Europe. - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership. Please note that even if we can grant you a bursary, you will still be expected to pay a part of trip yourself, as well as your boarding and lodging. We are not able to pay any royalties for presenters. Important Dates Please submit your contributions no later than the indicated dates: Abstract submission deadline: May 15, 2003 Acceptance notification: June 1, 2003 Final papers due: June 30, 2003 all 23:59 UTC For the Program Comittee Matthias Kalle Dalheimer President, KDE e.V. From nobody Sat Apr 12 20:07:08 2003 Received: (qmail 7871 invoked by uid 1055); 12 Apr 2003 18:06:45 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 7773 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2003 18:06:35 -0000 Received: from kde.suse.de (HELO office.kde.org) (213.95.15.68) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2003 18:06:32 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (lupinella.troll.no [80.232.37.59]) by office.kde.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EB794B1; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:00:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jeunehomme.troll.no ([80.232.37.158]:31880 "EHLO jeunehomme.troll.no" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:00:11 +0200 From: Matthias Ettrich Organization: Trolltech To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 17:59:07 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304121759.07566.ettrich@trolltech.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-14.0 required=5.5 tests=AWL,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) cc: kalle@kde.org Subject: CFP - draft X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 18:07:07 -0000 Hi, Kalle compiled a draft for a CFP (see below, thank you Kalle), heavily inspired by the Linux Tag. Given the meaningful deadlines, we need to get this out really soon now. What might still be improved is the list of fields: - Qt programming tricks - kdelibs programming tricks - DCOP development - KParts development - KOffice development - aRts development - programming tools - programming patterns and development strategies - project management issues - internationalization - documentation - ... Since we say that "Everything KDE-related will be considered", maybe we don't have to be that specific? What about talks on real-world projects deploying KDE in a big scale? The conference is meant to be interesting for KDE developer as well, maybe there is some real interest in seeing how our code is used out there? And maybe we should stress the fact that we also plan to do a 15 min presentation track, where KDE authors have the possibility to present their work to other interested developers, potentially gaining new contributors and co-developers. Ralf, others, any futher comments? Kalle, are you subscribed to novehrady@kde.org list? Matthias --------------------- KDE Developers' Conference - Call for Papers August 2xth to 2xth Zamek, Nov´e Hrady, Czech Republic Conference Program The KDE Developers' Conference is a meeting of worldwide KDE gathers. It will start with two days of technical talks and end with a three-day hacking session. Besides, there will be lots of time for socializing. Do you have a particular expertise related to KDE programming that could be useful for your fellow developers? Do you want to present a particular programming pattern, a tool, a development strategy, or anything else that helps KDE developers become more productive? Then consider talking about it at the KDE Developers' Conference. We sollicit submissions for presentations from, but not restricted to the following fields. Everything KDE-related will be considered. - Qt programming tricks - kdelibs programming tricks - DCOP development - KParts development - KOffice development - aRts development - programming tools - programming patterns and development strategies - project management issues - internationalization - documentation - ... Technical talks will be scheduled for 45 minutes talk and 15 minutes Q&A. In some cases, it may be possible to occupy two slots for a total talk time of 90 minutes. Please note this in your abstract if you require this. There will also be room for short presentations of 15 minutes each, and submissions for these are very welcome as well. Finally, BoF sessions can be announced in advance or planned on the spot. A limited number of group rooms will be available for BoFs. Submission Guidelines Submissions will be accepted only electronically. Those proposing to present papers should submit an abstract and a brief biography using a form by email to nove-hrady-comittee@kde.org. The conference language is English. The abstracts will be reviewed by the program committee based on content, presentation and suitability for the event. Accepted speakers will be notified and will be required to submit a written paper of about ten pages (two to three pages for short presentations) for inclusion in the conference proceedings. The papers must be in an XML/DocBook format. Detailed guidelines will be provided to accepted speakers. Submissions violating these rules or the formatting guidelines may not be considered for publication. Licensing of Accepted Papers On acceptance, authors will be required to sign a Free Document License that grants an unlimited, non-exclusive right to KDE e. V. and its partners to publish the papers both in electronic form on CD-ROM and the website and in paper form for the conference proceedings and magazines. Your submission indicates that you agree to these terms. Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreement forms can not be accepted, and will not be reviewed. Papers will be held in full confidence during the reviewing process. Authors of accepted papers will be encouraged to supply electronic versions of their papers, as well as source code and raw data to help others replicate and better understand their results. Location The KDE Developers' Conference will take place at the Zamek ("Castle") in Nove Hrady in the Northern part of the Czech Republic in Central Europe. Nove Hrady cannot easily be reached by public transportations, but a shuttle service will be provided from Prague-Ruzyne airport and Prague Central Station. Speaker Incentives and Financial Compensation The KDE Developers' Conference is run by KDE e.V., a non-profit organizationof volunteering professionals and enthusiasts of free and open-source software. We only have a limited budget for this conference, and cannot generally pay travel expenses or any other reimbursement or gratification to speakers. We can provide accomodation and boarding at a very low price (expect about 15-20 Euros per day for full board and lodging, but don't expect luxury accomodation), and the shuttle service from and to Prague will be free of charge. KDE e.V. is solliciting donations from companies and individuals towards this conference. These donations will be used both for running the conference and for bursaries for delegates from other continents and/or without income. These bursaries will be given according to the following priorities: - Delegates with an accepted paper, no or low income and a residence outside of Europe. - Delegates with an accepted paper and no or low income. - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, with no income and a residence outside of Europe. - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, with no income. - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership with a residence outside of Europe. - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership. Please note that even if we can grant you a bursary, you will still be expected to pay a part of trip yourself, as well as your boarding and lodging. We are not able to pay any royalties for presenters. Important Dates Please submit your contributions no later than the indicated dates: Abstract submission deadline: May 15, 2003 Acceptance notification: June 1, 2003 Final papers due: June 30, 2003 all 23:59 UTC For the Program Comittee Matthias Kalle Dalheimer President, KDE e.V. From nobody Sat Apr 12 20:08:06 2003 Received: (qmail 8756 invoked by uid 1055); 12 Apr 2003 18:07:50 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 8659 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2003 18:07:43 -0000 Received: from ms-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de (HELO ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de) (134.130.3.130) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2003 18:07:42 -0000 Received: from ms-1 (ms-dienst.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.132]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HD800DFLSR72X@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de> for novehrady@kde.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:01:55 +0200 (MEST) Received: from relay.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([134.130.3.1]) by ms-1 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:01:54 +0200 (MEST) Received: from 192.168.1.10 (p50926C65.dip.t-dialin.net [80.146.108.101]) h3CI1rwt027237; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:01:53 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:01:44 +0200 From: Ralf Nolden In-reply-to: <200304121759.07566.ettrich@trolltech.com> To: novehrady@kde.org, Matthias Ettrich , novehrady@mail.kde.org Message-id: <200304122001.51180.nolden@kde.org> Organization: The KDesktop Environment MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Content-description: clearsigned data User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200304121759.07566.ettrich@trolltech.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-36.4 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,RCVD_IN_NJABL,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL,X_NJABL_DIALUP version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: CFP - draft X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 18:08:04 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 12 April 2003 19:41, Matthias Ettrich wrote: > Hi, > > Kalle compiled a draft for a CFP (see below, thank you Kalle), heavily > inspired by the Linux Tag. Given the meaningful deadlines, we need to get > this out really soon now. > > What might still be improved is the list of fields: > > - Qt programming tricks > - kdelibs programming tricks > - DCOP development > - KParts development > - KOffice development > - aRts development > - programming tools > - programming patterns and development strategies > - project management issues > - internationalization > - documentation > - ... > > Since we say that "Everything KDE-related will be considered", maybe we > don't have to be that specific? What about talks on real-world projects > deploying KDE in a big scale? The conference is meant to be interesting f= or > KDE developer as well, maybe there is some real interest in seeing how our > code is used out there? > > And maybe we should stress the fact that we also plan to do a 15 min > presentation track, where KDE authors have the possibility to present the= ir > work to other interested developers, potentially gaining new contributors > and co-developers. > > Ralf, others, any futher comments? How about inviting someone from the BSI who is involved in the projects the= re=20 ? I mean, they are Kalles and our customers but in the end their POV where= =20 KDE practically lacks would be nice to hear or what their ideas are (I have= =20 something specific with this - one person there may be "officially" working= =20 on KDE during his work hours on the groupware on CVS HEAD so they can work = on=20 the source directly to make the groupware for KDE 3.2 better (which they=20 probably will want to use later after an interim time with kroupware) and=20 they want to gain a better understanding how free software is developed).=20 Kalle, you may have a better perspective since you're longer involved - you= r=20 view on this ? Assembling the installations there has also shown where the problems curren= tly=20 are in practical use with a bare Debian, so working from the bottom up here= I=20 may be able to give a good overview about the project together with someone= =20 from the BSI maybe. In particular it's interoperability issues where we cou= ld=20 pick up some stuff and work that into the kcontrol center to support more=20 features like fonts for gtk apps and setting their style to geramik :-) Ralf > > Kalle, are you subscribed to novehrady@kde.org list? > > > Matthias > > > > --------------------- > > KDE Developers' Conference - Call for Papers > August 2xth to 2xth > Zamek, Nov=B4e Hrady, Czech Republic > > > Conference Program > > The KDE Developers' Conference is a meeting of worldwide KDE > gathers. It will start with two days of technical talks and end with a > three-day hacking session. Besides, there will be lots of time for > socializing. > > Do you have a particular expertise related to KDE programming that > could be useful for your fellow developers? Do you want to present a > particular programming pattern, a tool, a development strategy, or > anything else that helps KDE developers become more productive? Then > consider talking about it at the KDE Developers' Conference. > > We sollicit submissions for presentations from, but not restricted to > the following fields. Everything KDE-related will be considered. > > - Qt programming tricks > - kdelibs programming tricks > - DCOP development > - KParts development > - KOffice development > - aRts development > - programming tools > - programming patterns and development strategies > - project management issues > - internationalization > - documentation > - ... > > > Technical talks will be scheduled for 45 minutes talk and 15 minutes > Q&A. In some cases, it may be possible to occupy two slots for a total > talk time of 90 minutes. Please note this in your abstract if you > require this. > > There will also be room for short presentations of 15 minutes each, > and submissions for these are very welcome as well. > > Finally, BoF sessions can be announced in advance or planned on the > spot. A limited number of group rooms will be available for BoFs. > > > Submission Guidelines > > > Submissions will be accepted only electronically. Those proposing to > present papers should submit an abstract and a brief biography using a > form by email to nove-hrady-comittee@kde.org. The conference language > is English. The abstracts will be reviewed by the program committee > based on content, presentation and suitability for the event. Accepted > speakers will be notified and will be required to submit a written > paper of about ten pages (two to three pages for short presentations) > for inclusion in the conference proceedings. The papers must be in an > XML/DocBook format. Detailed guidelines will be provided to accepted > speakers. Submissions violating these rules or the formatting > guidelines may not be considered for publication. > > > Licensing of Accepted Papers > > > On acceptance, authors will be required to sign a Free Document > License that grants an unlimited, non-exclusive right to KDE e. V. and > its partners to publish the papers both in electronic form on CD-ROM > and the website and in paper form for the conference proceedings and > magazines. Your submission indicates that you agree to these > terms. Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreement forms can not be > accepted, and will not be reviewed. Papers will be held in full > confidence during the reviewing process. Authors of accepted papers > will be encouraged to supply electronic versions of their papers, as > well as source code and raw data to help others replicate and better > understand their results. > > > Location > > The KDE Developers' Conference will take place at the Zamek ("Castle") > in Nove Hrady in the Northern part of the Czech Republic in Central > Europe. Nove Hrady cannot easily be reached by public transportations, > but a shuttle service will be provided from Prague-Ruzyne airport and > Prague Central Station. > > > Speaker Incentives and Financial Compensation > > The KDE Developers' Conference is run by KDE e.V., a non-profit > organizationof volunteering professionals and enthusiasts of free and > open-source software. We only have a limited budget for this > conference, and cannot generally pay travel expenses or any other > reimbursement or gratification to speakers. We can provide > accomodation and boarding at a very low price (expect about 15-20 > Euros per day for full board and lodging, but don't expect luxury > accomodation), and the shuttle service from and to Prague will be free > of charge. > > KDE e.V. is solliciting donations from companies and individuals > towards this conference. These donations will be used both for running > the conference and for bursaries for delegates from other continents > and/or without income. These bursaries will be given according to the > following priorities: > > - Delegates with an accepted paper, no or low income and a residence > outside of Europe. > - Delegates with an accepted paper and no or low income. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > with no income and a residence outside of Europe. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > with no income. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership > with a residence outside of Europe. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership. > > Please note that even if we can grant you a bursary, you will still be > expected to pay a part of trip yourself, as well as your boarding and > lodging. > > We are not able to pay any royalties for presenters. > > > Important Dates > > > Please submit your contributions no later than the indicated dates: > > Abstract submission deadline: > May 15, 2003 > > Acceptance notification: > June 1, 2003 > > Final papers due: > June 30, 2003 > > all 23:59 UTC > > > > For the Program Comittee > > Matthias Kalle Dalheimer > President, KDE e.V. > > _______________________________________________ > NoveHrady mailing list > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady =2D --=20 We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. =2D -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Nolden nolden@kde.org The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+mFSOu0nKi+w1Ky8RAsvBAJ9WI2i7pBYPvvrwT78tpf58V/5/dgCdFTT2 5psx5YOvDpZIdpwODtaeGD4=3D =3DdUGy =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Sat Apr 12 20:08:07 2003 Received: (qmail 8696 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2003 18:07:45 -0000 Received: from ms-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de (HELO ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de) (134.130.3.130) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2003 18:07:44 -0000 Received: from ms-1 (ms-dienst.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.132]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HD800DFLSR72X@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de> for novehrady@mail.kde.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:01:55 +0200 (MEST) Received: from relay.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([134.130.3.1]) by ms-1 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:01:54 +0200 (MEST) Received: from 192.168.1.10 (p50926C65.dip.t-dialin.net [80.146.108.101]) h3CI1rwt027237; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:01:53 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:01:44 +0200 From: Ralf Nolden In-reply-to: <200304121759.07566.ettrich@trolltech.com> To: novehrady@kde.org, Matthias Ettrich , novehrady@mail.kde.org Message-id: <200304122001.51180.nolden@kde.org> Organization: The KDesktop Environment MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Content-description: clearsigned data User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200304121759.07566.ettrich@trolltech.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-36.4 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,RCVD_IN_NJABL,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL,X_NJABL_DIALUP version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: CFP - draft X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 18:08:07 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 12 April 2003 19:41, Matthias Ettrich wrote: > Hi, > > Kalle compiled a draft for a CFP (see below, thank you Kalle), heavily > inspired by the Linux Tag. Given the meaningful deadlines, we need to get > this out really soon now. > > What might still be improved is the list of fields: > > - Qt programming tricks > - kdelibs programming tricks > - DCOP development > - KParts development > - KOffice development > - aRts development > - programming tools > - programming patterns and development strategies > - project management issues > - internationalization > - documentation > - ... > > Since we say that "Everything KDE-related will be considered", maybe we > don't have to be that specific? What about talks on real-world projects > deploying KDE in a big scale? The conference is meant to be interesting f= or > KDE developer as well, maybe there is some real interest in seeing how our > code is used out there? > > And maybe we should stress the fact that we also plan to do a 15 min > presentation track, where KDE authors have the possibility to present the= ir > work to other interested developers, potentially gaining new contributors > and co-developers. > > Ralf, others, any futher comments? How about inviting someone from the BSI who is involved in the projects the= re=20 ? I mean, they are Kalles and our customers but in the end their POV where= =20 KDE practically lacks would be nice to hear or what their ideas are (I have= =20 something specific with this - one person there may be "officially" working= =20 on KDE during his work hours on the groupware on CVS HEAD so they can work = on=20 the source directly to make the groupware for KDE 3.2 better (which they=20 probably will want to use later after an interim time with kroupware) and=20 they want to gain a better understanding how free software is developed).=20 Kalle, you may have a better perspective since you're longer involved - you= r=20 view on this ? Assembling the installations there has also shown where the problems curren= tly=20 are in practical use with a bare Debian, so working from the bottom up here= I=20 may be able to give a good overview about the project together with someone= =20 from the BSI maybe. In particular it's interoperability issues where we cou= ld=20 pick up some stuff and work that into the kcontrol center to support more=20 features like fonts for gtk apps and setting their style to geramik :-) Ralf > > Kalle, are you subscribed to novehrady@kde.org list? > > > Matthias > > > > --------------------- > > KDE Developers' Conference - Call for Papers > August 2xth to 2xth > Zamek, Nov=B4e Hrady, Czech Republic > > > Conference Program > > The KDE Developers' Conference is a meeting of worldwide KDE > gathers. It will start with two days of technical talks and end with a > three-day hacking session. Besides, there will be lots of time for > socializing. > > Do you have a particular expertise related to KDE programming that > could be useful for your fellow developers? Do you want to present a > particular programming pattern, a tool, a development strategy, or > anything else that helps KDE developers become more productive? Then > consider talking about it at the KDE Developers' Conference. > > We sollicit submissions for presentations from, but not restricted to > the following fields. Everything KDE-related will be considered. > > - Qt programming tricks > - kdelibs programming tricks > - DCOP development > - KParts development > - KOffice development > - aRts development > - programming tools > - programming patterns and development strategies > - project management issues > - internationalization > - documentation > - ... > > > Technical talks will be scheduled for 45 minutes talk and 15 minutes > Q&A. In some cases, it may be possible to occupy two slots for a total > talk time of 90 minutes. Please note this in your abstract if you > require this. > > There will also be room for short presentations of 15 minutes each, > and submissions for these are very welcome as well. > > Finally, BoF sessions can be announced in advance or planned on the > spot. A limited number of group rooms will be available for BoFs. > > > Submission Guidelines > > > Submissions will be accepted only electronically. Those proposing to > present papers should submit an abstract and a brief biography using a > form by email to nove-hrady-comittee@kde.org. The conference language > is English. The abstracts will be reviewed by the program committee > based on content, presentation and suitability for the event. Accepted > speakers will be notified and will be required to submit a written > paper of about ten pages (two to three pages for short presentations) > for inclusion in the conference proceedings. The papers must be in an > XML/DocBook format. Detailed guidelines will be provided to accepted > speakers. Submissions violating these rules or the formatting > guidelines may not be considered for publication. > > > Licensing of Accepted Papers > > > On acceptance, authors will be required to sign a Free Document > License that grants an unlimited, non-exclusive right to KDE e. V. and > its partners to publish the papers both in electronic form on CD-ROM > and the website and in paper form for the conference proceedings and > magazines. Your submission indicates that you agree to these > terms. Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreement forms can not be > accepted, and will not be reviewed. Papers will be held in full > confidence during the reviewing process. Authors of accepted papers > will be encouraged to supply electronic versions of their papers, as > well as source code and raw data to help others replicate and better > understand their results. > > > Location > > The KDE Developers' Conference will take place at the Zamek ("Castle") > in Nove Hrady in the Northern part of the Czech Republic in Central > Europe. Nove Hrady cannot easily be reached by public transportations, > but a shuttle service will be provided from Prague-Ruzyne airport and > Prague Central Station. > > > Speaker Incentives and Financial Compensation > > The KDE Developers' Conference is run by KDE e.V., a non-profit > organizationof volunteering professionals and enthusiasts of free and > open-source software. We only have a limited budget for this > conference, and cannot generally pay travel expenses or any other > reimbursement or gratification to speakers. We can provide > accomodation and boarding at a very low price (expect about 15-20 > Euros per day for full board and lodging, but don't expect luxury > accomodation), and the shuttle service from and to Prague will be free > of charge. > > KDE e.V. is solliciting donations from companies and individuals > towards this conference. These donations will be used both for running > the conference and for bursaries for delegates from other continents > and/or without income. These bursaries will be given according to the > following priorities: > > - Delegates with an accepted paper, no or low income and a residence > outside of Europe. > - Delegates with an accepted paper and no or low income. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > with no income and a residence outside of Europe. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > with no income. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership > with a residence outside of Europe. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership. > > Please note that even if we can grant you a bursary, you will still be > expected to pay a part of trip yourself, as well as your boarding and > lodging. > > We are not able to pay any royalties for presenters. > > > Important Dates > > > Please submit your contributions no later than the indicated dates: > > Abstract submission deadline: > May 15, 2003 > > Acceptance notification: > June 1, 2003 > > Final papers due: > June 30, 2003 > > all 23:59 UTC > > > > For the Program Comittee > > Matthias Kalle Dalheimer > President, KDE e.V. > > _______________________________________________ > NoveHrady mailing list > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady =2D --=20 We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. =2D -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Nolden nolden@kde.org The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+mFSOu0nKi+w1Ky8RAsvBAJ9WI2i7pBYPvvrwT78tpf58V/5/dgCdFTT2 5psx5YOvDpZIdpwODtaeGD4=3D =3DdUGy =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Sat Apr 12 21:08:18 2003 Received: (qmail 7608 invoked by uid 1055); 12 Apr 2003 19:08:15 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 7604 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2003 19:08:15 -0000 Received: from mailb.telia.com (194.22.194.6) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2003 19:08:14 -0000 Received: from d1o293.telia.com (d1o293.telia.com [217.209.184.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3CJ8D5c018059; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:08:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: novehrady@kde.org Received: from owl (h210n1fls34o293.telia.com [217.209.187.210]) by d1o293.telia.com (8.10.2p2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h3CJ8Ci20519; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:08:12 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Matthias Kalle Dalheimer To: Matthias Ettrich Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:05:21 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <200304121759.07566.ettrich@trolltech.com> In-Reply-To: <200304121759.07566.ettrich@trolltech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304122105.21242.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-30.6 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) cc: novehrady@kde.org Subject: Re: CFP - draft X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:08:17 -0000 On Saturday 12 April 2003 17.59, you wrote: > Hi, > > Kalle compiled a draft for a CFP (see below, thank you Kalle), heavily > inspired by the Linux Tag. Given the meaningful deadlines, we need to g= et > this out really soon now. > > What might still be improved is the list of fields: > > - Qt programming tricks > - kdelibs programming tricks > - DCOP development > - KParts development > - KOffice development > - aRts development > - programming tools > - programming patterns and development strategies > - project management issues > - internationalization > - documentation > - ... > > Since we say that "Everything KDE-related will be considered", maybe we > don't have to be that specific? What about talks on real-world project= s > deploying KDE in a big scale? The conference is meant to be interesting= for > KDE developer as well, maybe there is some real interest in seeing how = our > code is used out there? The idea with these lists is usually to get people started to think about= =20 possible topics. But it doesn't hurt at all to make this list bigger. > > And maybe we should stress the fact that we also plan to do a 15 min > presentation track, where KDE authors have the possibility to present t= heir > work to other interested developers, potentially gaining new contributo= rs > and co-developers. > > Ralf, others, any futher comments? > > Kalle, are you subscribed to novehrady@kde.org list? I think so, yes. Kalle > > > Matthias > > > > --------------------- > > KDE Developers' Conference - Call for Papers > August 2xth to 2xth > Zamek, Nov=B4e Hrady, Czech Republic > > > Conference Program > > The KDE Developers' Conference is a meeting of worldwide KDE > gathers. It will start with two days of technical talks and end with a > three-day hacking session. Besides, there will be lots of time for > socializing. > > Do you have a particular expertise related to KDE programming that > could be useful for your fellow developers? Do you want to present a > particular programming pattern, a tool, a development strategy, or > anything else that helps KDE developers become more productive? Then > consider talking about it at the KDE Developers' Conference. > > We sollicit submissions for presentations from, but not restricted to > the following fields. Everything KDE-related will be considered. > > - Qt programming tricks > - kdelibs programming tricks > - DCOP development > - KParts development > - KOffice development > - aRts development > - programming tools > - programming patterns and development strategies > - project management issues > - internationalization > - documentation > - ... > > > Technical talks will be scheduled for 45 minutes talk and 15 minutes > Q&A. In some cases, it may be possible to occupy two slots for a total > talk time of 90 minutes. Please note this in your abstract if you > require this. > > There will also be room for short presentations of 15 minutes each, > and submissions for these are very welcome as well. > > Finally, BoF sessions can be announced in advance or planned on the > spot. A limited number of group rooms will be available for BoFs. > > > Submission Guidelines > > > Submissions will be accepted only electronically. Those proposing to > present papers should submit an abstract and a brief biography using a > form by email to nove-hrady-comittee@kde.org. The conference language > is English. The abstracts will be reviewed by the program committee > based on content, presentation and suitability for the event. Accepted > speakers will be notified and will be required to submit a written > paper of about ten pages (two to three pages for short presentations) > for inclusion in the conference proceedings. The papers must be in an > XML/DocBook format. Detailed guidelines will be provided to accepted > speakers. Submissions violating these rules or the formatting > guidelines may not be considered for publication. > > > Licensing of Accepted Papers > > > On acceptance, authors will be required to sign a Free Document > License that grants an unlimited, non-exclusive right to KDE e. V. and > its partners to publish the papers both in electronic form on CD-ROM > and the website and in paper form for the conference proceedings and > magazines. Your submission indicates that you agree to these > terms. Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreement forms can not be > accepted, and will not be reviewed. Papers will be held in full > confidence during the reviewing process. Authors of accepted papers > will be encouraged to supply electronic versions of their papers, as > well as source code and raw data to help others replicate and better > understand their results. > > > Location > > The KDE Developers' Conference will take place at the Zamek ("Castle") > in Nove Hrady in the Northern part of the Czech Republic in Central > Europe. Nove Hrady cannot easily be reached by public transportations, > but a shuttle service will be provided from Prague-Ruzyne airport and > Prague Central Station. > > > Speaker Incentives and Financial Compensation > > The KDE Developers' Conference is run by KDE e.V., a non-profit > organizationof volunteering professionals and enthusiasts of free and > open-source software. We only have a limited budget for this > conference, and cannot generally pay travel expenses or any other > reimbursement or gratification to speakers. We can provide > accomodation and boarding at a very low price (expect about 15-20 > Euros per day for full board and lodging, but don't expect luxury > accomodation), and the shuttle service from and to Prague will be free > of charge. > > KDE e.V. is solliciting donations from companies and individuals > towards this conference. These donations will be used both for running > the conference and for bursaries for delegates from other continents > and/or without income. These bursaries will be given according to the > following priorities: > > - Delegates with an accepted paper, no or low income and a residence > outside of Europe. > - Delegates with an accepted paper and no or low income. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > with no income and a residence outside of Europe. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > with no income. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership > with a residence outside of Europe. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership. > > Please note that even if we can grant you a bursary, you will still be > expected to pay a part of trip yourself, as well as your boarding and > lodging. > > We are not able to pay any royalties for presenters. > > > Important Dates > > > Please submit your contributions no later than the indicated dates: > > Abstract submission deadline: > May 15, 2003 > > Acceptance notification: > June 1, 2003 > > Final papers due: > June 30, 2003 > > all 23:59 UTC > > > > For the Program Comittee > > Matthias Kalle Dalheimer > President, KDE e.V. --=20 Matthias Kalle Dalheimer President & CEO Klar=E4lvdalens Datakonsult AB Platform-independent software solutions From nobody Sat Apr 12 21:08:19 2003 Received: (qmail 7621 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2003 19:08:16 -0000 Received: from maila.telia.com (194.22.194.231) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2003 19:08:15 -0000 Received: from d1o293.telia.com (d1o293.telia.com [217.209.184.241]) by maila.telia.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3CJ8D7C022304; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:08:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: novehrady@mail.kde.org Received: from owl (h210n1fls34o293.telia.com [217.209.187.210]) by d1o293.telia.com (8.10.2p2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h3CJ8Di20525; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:08:13 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Matthias Kalle Dalheimer To: novehrady@kde.org, Ralf Nolden , Matthias Ettrich , novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:06:57 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <200304121759.07566.ettrich@trolltech.com> <200304122001.51180.nolden@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200304122001.51180.nolden@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304122106.57033.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-30.7 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: Re: CFP - draft X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:08:17 -0000 On Saturday 12 April 2003 20.01, Ralf Nolden wrote: > On Saturday 12 April 2003 19:41, Matthias Ettrich wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Kalle compiled a draft for a CFP (see below, thank you Kalle), heavil= y > > inspired by the Linux Tag. Given the meaningful deadlines, we need to= get > > this out really soon now. > > > > What might still be improved is the list of fields: > > > > - Qt programming tricks > > - kdelibs programming tricks > > - DCOP development > > - KParts development > > - KOffice development > > - aRts development > > - programming tools > > - programming patterns and development strategies > > - project management issues > > - internationalization > > - documentation > > - ... > > > > Since we say that "Everything KDE-related will be considered", maybe = we > > don't have to be that specific? What about talks on real-world proje= cts > > deploying KDE in a big scale? The conference is meant to be interesti= ng > > for KDE developer as well, maybe there is some real interest in seein= g > > how our code is used out there? > > > > And maybe we should stress the fact that we also plan to do a 15 min > > presentation track, where KDE authors have the possibility to present > > their work to other interested developers, potentially gaining new > > contributors and co-developers. > > > > Ralf, others, any futher comments? > > How about inviting someone from the BSI who is involved in the projects > there ? I mean, they are Kalles and our customers but in the end their = POV > where KDE practically lacks would be nice to hear or what their ideas a= re > (I have something specific with this - one person there may be "officia= lly" > working on KDE during his work hours on the groupware on CVS HEAD so th= ey > can work on the source directly to make the groupware for KDE 3.2 bette= r > (which they probably will want to use later after an interim time with > kroupware) and they want to gain a better understanding how free softwa= re > is developed). > > Kalle, you may have a better perspective since you're longer involved - > your view on this ? Yes, would be good. I think I can get Egon Troles to give a talk. He's no= t=20 exactly BSI, but knows very well what goes on there. Kalle > > Assembling the installations there has also shown where the problems > currently are in practical use with a bare Debian, so working from the > bottom up here I may be able to give a good overview about the project > together with someone from the BSI maybe. In particular it's > interoperability issues where we could pick up some stuff and work that > into the kcontrol center to support more features like fonts for gtk ap= ps > and setting their style to geramik :-) > > Ralf > > > Kalle, are you subscribed to novehrady@kde.org list? > > > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > --------------------- > > > > KDE Developers' Conference - Call for Papers > > August 2xth to 2xth > > Zamek, Nov=B4e Hrady, Czech Republic > > > > > > Conference Program > > > > The KDE Developers' Conference is a meeting of worldwide KDE > > gathers. It will start with two days of technical talks and end with = a > > three-day hacking session. Besides, there will be lots of time for > > socializing. > > > > Do you have a particular expertise related to KDE programming that > > could be useful for your fellow developers? Do you want to present a > > particular programming pattern, a tool, a development strategy, or > > anything else that helps KDE developers become more productive? Then > > consider talking about it at the KDE Developers' Conference. > > > > We sollicit submissions for presentations from, but not restricted to > > the following fields. Everything KDE-related will be considered. > > > > - Qt programming tricks > > - kdelibs programming tricks > > - DCOP development > > - KParts development > > - KOffice development > > - aRts development > > - programming tools > > - programming patterns and development strategies > > - project management issues > > - internationalization > > - documentation > > - ... > > > > > > Technical talks will be scheduled for 45 minutes talk and 15 minutes > > Q&A. In some cases, it may be possible to occupy two slots for a tota= l > > talk time of 90 minutes. Please note this in your abstract if you > > require this. > > > > There will also be room for short presentations of 15 minutes each, > > and submissions for these are very welcome as well. > > > > Finally, BoF sessions can be announced in advance or planned on the > > spot. A limited number of group rooms will be available for BoFs. > > > > > > Submission Guidelines > > > > > > Submissions will be accepted only electronically. Those proposing to > > present papers should submit an abstract and a brief biography using = a > > form by email to nove-hrady-comittee@kde.org. The conference language > > is English. The abstracts will be reviewed by the program committee > > based on content, presentation and suitability for the event. Accepte= d > > speakers will be notified and will be required to submit a written > > paper of about ten pages (two to three pages for short presentations) > > for inclusion in the conference proceedings. The papers must be in an > > XML/DocBook format. Detailed guidelines will be provided to accepted > > speakers. Submissions violating these rules or the formatting > > guidelines may not be considered for publication. > > > > > > Licensing of Accepted Papers > > > > > > On acceptance, authors will be required to sign a Free Document > > License that grants an unlimited, non-exclusive right to KDE e. V. an= d > > its partners to publish the papers both in electronic form on CD-ROM > > and the website and in paper form for the conference proceedings and > > magazines. Your submission indicates that you agree to these > > terms. Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreement forms can not b= e > > accepted, and will not be reviewed. Papers will be held in full > > confidence during the reviewing process. Authors of accepted papers > > will be encouraged to supply electronic versions of their papers, as > > well as source code and raw data to help others replicate and better > > understand their results. > > > > > > Location > > > > The KDE Developers' Conference will take place at the Zamek ("Castle"= ) > > in Nove Hrady in the Northern part of the Czech Republic in Central > > Europe. Nove Hrady cannot easily be reached by public transportations= , > > but a shuttle service will be provided from Prague-Ruzyne airport and > > Prague Central Station. > > > > > > Speaker Incentives and Financial Compensation > > > > The KDE Developers' Conference is run by KDE e.V., a non-profit > > organizationof volunteering professionals and enthusiasts of free and > > open-source software. We only have a limited budget for this > > conference, and cannot generally pay travel expenses or any other > > reimbursement or gratification to speakers. We can provide > > accomodation and boarding at a very low price (expect about 15-20 > > Euros per day for full board and lodging, but don't expect luxury > > accomodation), and the shuttle service from and to Prague will be fre= e > > of charge. > > > > KDE e.V. is solliciting donations from companies and individuals > > towards this conference. These donations will be used both for runnin= g > > the conference and for bursaries for delegates from other continents > > and/or without income. These bursaries will be given according to the > > following priorities: > > > > - Delegates with an accepted paper, no or low income and a residence > > outside of Europe. > > - Delegates with an accepted paper and no or low income. > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > > with no income and a residence outside of Europe. > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > > with no income. > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership > > with a residence outside of Europe. > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership. > > > > Please note that even if we can grant you a bursary, you will still b= e > > expected to pay a part of trip yourself, as well as your boarding and > > lodging. > > > > We are not able to pay any royalties for presenters. > > > > > > Important Dates > > > > > > Please submit your contributions no later than the indicated dates: > > > > Abstract submission deadline: > > May 15, 2003 > > > > Acceptance notification: > > June 1, 2003 > > > > Final papers due: > > June 30, 2003 > > > > all 23:59 UTC > > > > > > > > For the Program Comittee > > > > Matthias Kalle Dalheimer > > President, KDE e.V. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NoveHrady mailing list > > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady --=20 Matthias Kalle Dalheimer President & CEO Klar=E4lvdalens Datakonsult AB Platform-independent software solutions From nobody Sat Apr 12 21:08:21 2003 Received: (qmail 7637 invoked by uid 1055); 12 Apr 2003 19:08:17 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 7621 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2003 19:08:16 -0000 Received: from maila.telia.com (194.22.194.231) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2003 19:08:15 -0000 Received: from d1o293.telia.com (d1o293.telia.com [217.209.184.241]) by maila.telia.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3CJ8D7C022304; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:08:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: novehrady@mail.kde.org Received: from owl (h210n1fls34o293.telia.com [217.209.187.210]) by d1o293.telia.com (8.10.2p2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h3CJ8Di20525; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:08:13 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Matthias Kalle Dalheimer To: novehrady@kde.org, Ralf Nolden , Matthias Ettrich , novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:06:57 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <200304121759.07566.ettrich@trolltech.com> <200304122001.51180.nolden@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200304122001.51180.nolden@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304122106.57033.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-30.7 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: Re: CFP - draft X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:08:18 -0000 On Saturday 12 April 2003 20.01, Ralf Nolden wrote: > On Saturday 12 April 2003 19:41, Matthias Ettrich wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Kalle compiled a draft for a CFP (see below, thank you Kalle), heavil= y > > inspired by the Linux Tag. Given the meaningful deadlines, we need to= get > > this out really soon now. > > > > What might still be improved is the list of fields: > > > > - Qt programming tricks > > - kdelibs programming tricks > > - DCOP development > > - KParts development > > - KOffice development > > - aRts development > > - programming tools > > - programming patterns and development strategies > > - project management issues > > - internationalization > > - documentation > > - ... > > > > Since we say that "Everything KDE-related will be considered", maybe = we > > don't have to be that specific? What about talks on real-world proje= cts > > deploying KDE in a big scale? The conference is meant to be interesti= ng > > for KDE developer as well, maybe there is some real interest in seein= g > > how our code is used out there? > > > > And maybe we should stress the fact that we also plan to do a 15 min > > presentation track, where KDE authors have the possibility to present > > their work to other interested developers, potentially gaining new > > contributors and co-developers. > > > > Ralf, others, any futher comments? > > How about inviting someone from the BSI who is involved in the projects > there ? I mean, they are Kalles and our customers but in the end their = POV > where KDE practically lacks would be nice to hear or what their ideas a= re > (I have something specific with this - one person there may be "officia= lly" > working on KDE during his work hours on the groupware on CVS HEAD so th= ey > can work on the source directly to make the groupware for KDE 3.2 bette= r > (which they probably will want to use later after an interim time with > kroupware) and they want to gain a better understanding how free softwa= re > is developed). > > Kalle, you may have a better perspective since you're longer involved - > your view on this ? Yes, would be good. I think I can get Egon Troles to give a talk. He's no= t=20 exactly BSI, but knows very well what goes on there. Kalle > > Assembling the installations there has also shown where the problems > currently are in practical use with a bare Debian, so working from the > bottom up here I may be able to give a good overview about the project > together with someone from the BSI maybe. In particular it's > interoperability issues where we could pick up some stuff and work that > into the kcontrol center to support more features like fonts for gtk ap= ps > and setting their style to geramik :-) > > Ralf > > > Kalle, are you subscribed to novehrady@kde.org list? > > > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > --------------------- > > > > KDE Developers' Conference - Call for Papers > > August 2xth to 2xth > > Zamek, Nov=B4e Hrady, Czech Republic > > > > > > Conference Program > > > > The KDE Developers' Conference is a meeting of worldwide KDE > > gathers. It will start with two days of technical talks and end with = a > > three-day hacking session. Besides, there will be lots of time for > > socializing. > > > > Do you have a particular expertise related to KDE programming that > > could be useful for your fellow developers? Do you want to present a > > particular programming pattern, a tool, a development strategy, or > > anything else that helps KDE developers become more productive? Then > > consider talking about it at the KDE Developers' Conference. > > > > We sollicit submissions for presentations from, but not restricted to > > the following fields. Everything KDE-related will be considered. > > > > - Qt programming tricks > > - kdelibs programming tricks > > - DCOP development > > - KParts development > > - KOffice development > > - aRts development > > - programming tools > > - programming patterns and development strategies > > - project management issues > > - internationalization > > - documentation > > - ... > > > > > > Technical talks will be scheduled for 45 minutes talk and 15 minutes > > Q&A. In some cases, it may be possible to occupy two slots for a tota= l > > talk time of 90 minutes. Please note this in your abstract if you > > require this. > > > > There will also be room for short presentations of 15 minutes each, > > and submissions for these are very welcome as well. > > > > Finally, BoF sessions can be announced in advance or planned on the > > spot. A limited number of group rooms will be available for BoFs. > > > > > > Submission Guidelines > > > > > > Submissions will be accepted only electronically. Those proposing to > > present papers should submit an abstract and a brief biography using = a > > form by email to nove-hrady-comittee@kde.org. The conference language > > is English. The abstracts will be reviewed by the program committee > > based on content, presentation and suitability for the event. Accepte= d > > speakers will be notified and will be required to submit a written > > paper of about ten pages (two to three pages for short presentations) > > for inclusion in the conference proceedings. The papers must be in an > > XML/DocBook format. Detailed guidelines will be provided to accepted > > speakers. Submissions violating these rules or the formatting > > guidelines may not be considered for publication. > > > > > > Licensing of Accepted Papers > > > > > > On acceptance, authors will be required to sign a Free Document > > License that grants an unlimited, non-exclusive right to KDE e. V. an= d > > its partners to publish the papers both in electronic form on CD-ROM > > and the website and in paper form for the conference proceedings and > > magazines. Your submission indicates that you agree to these > > terms. Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreement forms can not b= e > > accepted, and will not be reviewed. Papers will be held in full > > confidence during the reviewing process. Authors of accepted papers > > will be encouraged to supply electronic versions of their papers, as > > well as source code and raw data to help others replicate and better > > understand their results. > > > > > > Location > > > > The KDE Developers' Conference will take place at the Zamek ("Castle"= ) > > in Nove Hrady in the Northern part of the Czech Republic in Central > > Europe. Nove Hrady cannot easily be reached by public transportations= , > > but a shuttle service will be provided from Prague-Ruzyne airport and > > Prague Central Station. > > > > > > Speaker Incentives and Financial Compensation > > > > The KDE Developers' Conference is run by KDE e.V., a non-profit > > organizationof volunteering professionals and enthusiasts of free and > > open-source software. We only have a limited budget for this > > conference, and cannot generally pay travel expenses or any other > > reimbursement or gratification to speakers. We can provide > > accomodation and boarding at a very low price (expect about 15-20 > > Euros per day for full board and lodging, but don't expect luxury > > accomodation), and the shuttle service from and to Prague will be fre= e > > of charge. > > > > KDE e.V. is solliciting donations from companies and individuals > > towards this conference. These donations will be used both for runnin= g > > the conference and for bursaries for delegates from other continents > > and/or without income. These bursaries will be given according to the > > following priorities: > > > > - Delegates with an accepted paper, no or low income and a residence > > outside of Europe. > > - Delegates with an accepted paper and no or low income. > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > > with no income and a residence outside of Europe. > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > > with no income. > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership > > with a residence outside of Europe. > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership. > > > > Please note that even if we can grant you a bursary, you will still b= e > > expected to pay a part of trip yourself, as well as your boarding and > > lodging. > > > > We are not able to pay any royalties for presenters. > > > > > > Important Dates > > > > > > Please submit your contributions no later than the indicated dates: > > > > Abstract submission deadline: > > May 15, 2003 > > > > Acceptance notification: > > June 1, 2003 > > > > Final papers due: > > June 30, 2003 > > > > all 23:59 UTC > > > > > > > > For the Program Comittee > > > > Matthias Kalle Dalheimer > > President, KDE e.V. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NoveHrady mailing list > > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady --=20 Matthias Kalle Dalheimer President & CEO Klar=E4lvdalens Datakonsult AB Platform-independent software solutions From nobody Sat Apr 12 21:25:51 2003 Received: (qmail 13650 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2003 19:25:45 -0000 Received: from ms-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de (HELO ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de) (134.130.3.130) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2003 19:25:43 -0000 Received: from ms-2 (ms-2 [134.130.3.131]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HD800DZ3W2AEY@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de> for novehrady@mail.kde.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:13:23 +0200 (MEST) Received: from relay.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([134.130.3.1]) by ms-2 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:13:22 +0200 (MEST) Received: from 192.168.1.10 (p50926C65.dip.t-dialin.net [80.146.108.101]) h3CJDKwt006369; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:13:21 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:13:19 +0200 From: Ralf Nolden In-reply-to: <200304122106.57033.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> To: Matthias Kalle Dalheimer , novehrady@kde.org, Matthias Ettrich , novehrady@mail.kde.org Message-id: <200304122113.19198.nolden@kde.org> Organization: The KDesktop Environment MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Content-description: clearsigned data User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200304121759.07566.ettrich@trolltech.com> <200304122001.51180.nolden@kde.org> <200304122106.57033.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-36.1 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_NJABL,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL,X_NJABL_DIALUP version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: CFP - draft X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:25:50 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 12 April 2003 21:06, Matthias Kalle Dalheimer wrote: > On Saturday 12 April 2003 20.01, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > On Saturday 12 April 2003 19:41, Matthias Ettrich wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Kalle compiled a draft for a CFP (see below, thank you Kalle), heavily > > > inspired by the Linux Tag. Given the meaningful deadlines, we need to > > > get this out really soon now. > > > > > > What might still be improved is the list of fields: > > > > > > - Qt programming tricks > > > - kdelibs programming tricks > > > - DCOP development > > > - KParts development > > > - KOffice development > > > - aRts development > > > - programming tools > > > - programming patterns and development strategies > > > - project management issues > > > - internationalization > > > - documentation > > > - ... > > > > > > Since we say that "Everything KDE-related will be considered", maybe = we > > > don't have to be that specific? What about talks on real-world > > > projects deploying KDE in a big scale? The conference is meant to be > > > interesting for KDE developer as well, maybe there is some real > > > interest in seeing how our code is used out there? > > > > > > And maybe we should stress the fact that we also plan to do a 15 min > > > presentation track, where KDE authors have the possibility to present > > > their work to other interested developers, potentially gaining new > > > contributors and co-developers. > > > > > > Ralf, others, any futher comments? > > > > How about inviting someone from the BSI who is involved in the projects > > there ? I mean, they are Kalles and our customers but in the end their > > POV where KDE practically lacks would be nice to hear or what their ide= as > > are (I have something specific with this - one person there may be > > "officially" working on KDE during his work hours on the groupware on C= VS > > HEAD so they can work on the source directly to make the groupware for > > KDE 3.2 better (which they probably will want to use later after an > > interim time with kroupware) and they want to gain a better understandi= ng > > how free software is developed). > > > > Kalle, you may have a better perspective since you're longer involved - > > your view on this ? > > Yes, would be good. I think I can get Egon Troles to give a talk. He's not > exactly BSI, but knows very well what goes on there. I thought of Wilfried Kister and/or Mr. Fuhrberg - they are both in the=20 executive planning and rollout working with us. Mr. Kister is going to get = a=20 course probably by me how we work at KDE and how to send in patches first t= o=20 get a CVS account if those work :-) Ralf > > Kalle > > > Assembling the installations there has also shown where the problems > > currently are in practical use with a bare Debian, so working from the > > bottom up here I may be able to give a good overview about the project > > together with someone from the BSI maybe. In particular it's > > interoperability issues where we could pick up some stuff and work that > > into the kcontrol center to support more features like fonts for gtk ap= ps > > and setting their style to geramik :-) > > > > Ralf > > > > > Kalle, are you subscribed to novehrady@kde.org list? > > > > > > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------- > > > > > > KDE Developers' Conference - Call for Papers > > > August 2xth to 2xth > > > Zamek, Nov=B4e Hrady, Czech Republic > > > > > > > > > Conference Program > > > > > > The KDE Developers' Conference is a meeting of worldwide KDE > > > gathers. It will start with two days of technical talks and end with a > > > three-day hacking session. Besides, there will be lots of time for > > > socializing. > > > > > > Do you have a particular expertise related to KDE programming that > > > could be useful for your fellow developers? Do you want to present a > > > particular programming pattern, a tool, a development strategy, or > > > anything else that helps KDE developers become more productive? Then > > > consider talking about it at the KDE Developers' Conference. > > > > > > We sollicit submissions for presentations from, but not restricted to > > > the following fields. Everything KDE-related will be considered. > > > > > > - Qt programming tricks > > > - kdelibs programming tricks > > > - DCOP development > > > - KParts development > > > - KOffice development > > > - aRts development > > > - programming tools > > > - programming patterns and development strategies > > > - project management issues > > > - internationalization > > > - documentation > > > - ... > > > > > > > > > Technical talks will be scheduled for 45 minutes talk and 15 minutes > > > Q&A. In some cases, it may be possible to occupy two slots for a total > > > talk time of 90 minutes. Please note this in your abstract if you > > > require this. > > > > > > There will also be room for short presentations of 15 minutes each, > > > and submissions for these are very welcome as well. > > > > > > Finally, BoF sessions can be announced in advance or planned on the > > > spot. A limited number of group rooms will be available for BoFs. > > > > > > > > > Submission Guidelines > > > > > > > > > Submissions will be accepted only electronically. Those proposing to > > > present papers should submit an abstract and a brief biography using a > > > form by email to nove-hrady-comittee@kde.org. The conference language > > > is English. The abstracts will be reviewed by the program committee > > > based on content, presentation and suitability for the event. Accepted > > > speakers will be notified and will be required to submit a written > > > paper of about ten pages (two to three pages for short presentations) > > > for inclusion in the conference proceedings. The papers must be in an > > > XML/DocBook format. Detailed guidelines will be provided to accepted > > > speakers. Submissions violating these rules or the formatting > > > guidelines may not be considered for publication. > > > > > > > > > Licensing of Accepted Papers > > > > > > > > > On acceptance, authors will be required to sign a Free Document > > > License that grants an unlimited, non-exclusive right to KDE e. V. and > > > its partners to publish the papers both in electronic form on CD-ROM > > > and the website and in paper form for the conference proceedings and > > > magazines. Your submission indicates that you agree to these > > > terms. Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreement forms can not be > > > accepted, and will not be reviewed. Papers will be held in full > > > confidence during the reviewing process. Authors of accepted papers > > > will be encouraged to supply electronic versions of their papers, as > > > well as source code and raw data to help others replicate and better > > > understand their results. > > > > > > > > > Location > > > > > > The KDE Developers' Conference will take place at the Zamek ("Castle") > > > in Nove Hrady in the Northern part of the Czech Republic in Central > > > Europe. Nove Hrady cannot easily be reached by public transportations, > > > but a shuttle service will be provided from Prague-Ruzyne airport and > > > Prague Central Station. > > > > > > > > > Speaker Incentives and Financial Compensation > > > > > > The KDE Developers' Conference is run by KDE e.V., a non-profit > > > organizationof volunteering professionals and enthusiasts of free and > > > open-source software. We only have a limited budget for this > > > conference, and cannot generally pay travel expenses or any other > > > reimbursement or gratification to speakers. We can provide > > > accomodation and boarding at a very low price (expect about 15-20 > > > Euros per day for full board and lodging, but don't expect luxury > > > accomodation), and the shuttle service from and to Prague will be free > > > of charge. > > > > > > KDE e.V. is solliciting donations from companies and individuals > > > towards this conference. These donations will be used both for running > > > the conference and for bursaries for delegates from other continents > > > and/or without income. These bursaries will be given according to the > > > following priorities: > > > > > > - Delegates with an accepted paper, no or low income and a residence > > > outside of Europe. > > > - Delegates with an accepted paper and no or low income. > > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > > > with no income and a residence outside of Europe. > > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > > > with no income. > > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership > > > with a residence outside of Europe. > > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership. > > > > > > Please note that even if we can grant you a bursary, you will still be > > > expected to pay a part of trip yourself, as well as your boarding and > > > lodging. > > > > > > We are not able to pay any royalties for presenters. > > > > > > > > > Important Dates > > > > > > > > > Please submit your contributions no later than the indicated dates: > > > > > > Abstract submission deadline: > > > May 15, 2003 > > > > > > Acceptance notification: > > > June 1, 2003 > > > > > > Final papers due: > > > June 30, 2003 > > > > > > all 23:59 UTC > > > > > > > > > > > > For the Program Comittee > > > > > > Matthias Kalle Dalheimer > > > President, KDE e.V. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > NoveHrady mailing list > > > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > > > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady =2D --=20 We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. =2D -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Nolden nolden@kde.org The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+mGVPu0nKi+w1Ky8RAkHfAJ0fEBEc30mMsuquJBE7HZlnwSIe5ACeNDO9 Pdl6QK/CheV3uzcGZvL5Crw=3D =3DiO7Q =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Sat Apr 12 21:25:51 2003 Received: (qmail 13673 invoked by uid 1055); 12 Apr 2003 19:25:46 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 13608 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2003 19:25:42 -0000 Received: from ms-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de (HELO ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de) (134.130.3.130) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2003 19:25:41 -0000 Received: from ms-2 (ms-2 [134.130.3.131]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HD800DZ3W2AEY@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de> for novehrady@kde.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:13:23 +0200 (MEST) Received: from relay.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([134.130.3.1]) by ms-2 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:13:22 +0200 (MEST) Received: from 192.168.1.10 (p50926C65.dip.t-dialin.net [80.146.108.101]) h3CJDKwt006369; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:13:21 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:13:19 +0200 From: Ralf Nolden In-reply-to: <200304122106.57033.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> To: Matthias Kalle Dalheimer , novehrady@kde.org, Matthias Ettrich , novehrady@mail.kde.org Message-id: <200304122113.19198.nolden@kde.org> Organization: The KDesktop Environment MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Content-description: clearsigned data User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200304121759.07566.ettrich@trolltech.com> <200304122001.51180.nolden@kde.org> <200304122106.57033.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-36.1 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_NJABL,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL,X_NJABL_DIALUP version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: CFP - draft X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:25:50 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 12 April 2003 21:06, Matthias Kalle Dalheimer wrote: > On Saturday 12 April 2003 20.01, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > On Saturday 12 April 2003 19:41, Matthias Ettrich wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Kalle compiled a draft for a CFP (see below, thank you Kalle), heavily > > > inspired by the Linux Tag. Given the meaningful deadlines, we need to > > > get this out really soon now. > > > > > > What might still be improved is the list of fields: > > > > > > - Qt programming tricks > > > - kdelibs programming tricks > > > - DCOP development > > > - KParts development > > > - KOffice development > > > - aRts development > > > - programming tools > > > - programming patterns and development strategies > > > - project management issues > > > - internationalization > > > - documentation > > > - ... > > > > > > Since we say that "Everything KDE-related will be considered", maybe = we > > > don't have to be that specific? What about talks on real-world > > > projects deploying KDE in a big scale? The conference is meant to be > > > interesting for KDE developer as well, maybe there is some real > > > interest in seeing how our code is used out there? > > > > > > And maybe we should stress the fact that we also plan to do a 15 min > > > presentation track, where KDE authors have the possibility to present > > > their work to other interested developers, potentially gaining new > > > contributors and co-developers. > > > > > > Ralf, others, any futher comments? > > > > How about inviting someone from the BSI who is involved in the projects > > there ? I mean, they are Kalles and our customers but in the end their > > POV where KDE practically lacks would be nice to hear or what their ide= as > > are (I have something specific with this - one person there may be > > "officially" working on KDE during his work hours on the groupware on C= VS > > HEAD so they can work on the source directly to make the groupware for > > KDE 3.2 better (which they probably will want to use later after an > > interim time with kroupware) and they want to gain a better understandi= ng > > how free software is developed). > > > > Kalle, you may have a better perspective since you're longer involved - > > your view on this ? > > Yes, would be good. I think I can get Egon Troles to give a talk. He's not > exactly BSI, but knows very well what goes on there. I thought of Wilfried Kister and/or Mr. Fuhrberg - they are both in the=20 executive planning and rollout working with us. Mr. Kister is going to get = a=20 course probably by me how we work at KDE and how to send in patches first t= o=20 get a CVS account if those work :-) Ralf > > Kalle > > > Assembling the installations there has also shown where the problems > > currently are in practical use with a bare Debian, so working from the > > bottom up here I may be able to give a good overview about the project > > together with someone from the BSI maybe. In particular it's > > interoperability issues where we could pick up some stuff and work that > > into the kcontrol center to support more features like fonts for gtk ap= ps > > and setting their style to geramik :-) > > > > Ralf > > > > > Kalle, are you subscribed to novehrady@kde.org list? > > > > > > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------- > > > > > > KDE Developers' Conference - Call for Papers > > > August 2xth to 2xth > > > Zamek, Nov=B4e Hrady, Czech Republic > > > > > > > > > Conference Program > > > > > > The KDE Developers' Conference is a meeting of worldwide KDE > > > gathers. It will start with two days of technical talks and end with a > > > three-day hacking session. Besides, there will be lots of time for > > > socializing. > > > > > > Do you have a particular expertise related to KDE programming that > > > could be useful for your fellow developers? Do you want to present a > > > particular programming pattern, a tool, a development strategy, or > > > anything else that helps KDE developers become more productive? Then > > > consider talking about it at the KDE Developers' Conference. > > > > > > We sollicit submissions for presentations from, but not restricted to > > > the following fields. Everything KDE-related will be considered. > > > > > > - Qt programming tricks > > > - kdelibs programming tricks > > > - DCOP development > > > - KParts development > > > - KOffice development > > > - aRts development > > > - programming tools > > > - programming patterns and development strategies > > > - project management issues > > > - internationalization > > > - documentation > > > - ... > > > > > > > > > Technical talks will be scheduled for 45 minutes talk and 15 minutes > > > Q&A. In some cases, it may be possible to occupy two slots for a total > > > talk time of 90 minutes. Please note this in your abstract if you > > > require this. > > > > > > There will also be room for short presentations of 15 minutes each, > > > and submissions for these are very welcome as well. > > > > > > Finally, BoF sessions can be announced in advance or planned on the > > > spot. A limited number of group rooms will be available for BoFs. > > > > > > > > > Submission Guidelines > > > > > > > > > Submissions will be accepted only electronically. Those proposing to > > > present papers should submit an abstract and a brief biography using a > > > form by email to nove-hrady-comittee@kde.org. The conference language > > > is English. The abstracts will be reviewed by the program committee > > > based on content, presentation and suitability for the event. Accepted > > > speakers will be notified and will be required to submit a written > > > paper of about ten pages (two to three pages for short presentations) > > > for inclusion in the conference proceedings. The papers must be in an > > > XML/DocBook format. Detailed guidelines will be provided to accepted > > > speakers. Submissions violating these rules or the formatting > > > guidelines may not be considered for publication. > > > > > > > > > Licensing of Accepted Papers > > > > > > > > > On acceptance, authors will be required to sign a Free Document > > > License that grants an unlimited, non-exclusive right to KDE e. V. and > > > its partners to publish the papers both in electronic form on CD-ROM > > > and the website and in paper form for the conference proceedings and > > > magazines. Your submission indicates that you agree to these > > > terms. Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreement forms can not be > > > accepted, and will not be reviewed. Papers will be held in full > > > confidence during the reviewing process. Authors of accepted papers > > > will be encouraged to supply electronic versions of their papers, as > > > well as source code and raw data to help others replicate and better > > > understand their results. > > > > > > > > > Location > > > > > > The KDE Developers' Conference will take place at the Zamek ("Castle") > > > in Nove Hrady in the Northern part of the Czech Republic in Central > > > Europe. Nove Hrady cannot easily be reached by public transportations, > > > but a shuttle service will be provided from Prague-Ruzyne airport and > > > Prague Central Station. > > > > > > > > > Speaker Incentives and Financial Compensation > > > > > > The KDE Developers' Conference is run by KDE e.V., a non-profit > > > organizationof volunteering professionals and enthusiasts of free and > > > open-source software. We only have a limited budget for this > > > conference, and cannot generally pay travel expenses or any other > > > reimbursement or gratification to speakers. We can provide > > > accomodation and boarding at a very low price (expect about 15-20 > > > Euros per day for full board and lodging, but don't expect luxury > > > accomodation), and the shuttle service from and to Prague will be free > > > of charge. > > > > > > KDE e.V. is solliciting donations from companies and individuals > > > towards this conference. These donations will be used both for running > > > the conference and for bursaries for delegates from other continents > > > and/or without income. These bursaries will be given according to the > > > following priorities: > > > > > > - Delegates with an accepted paper, no or low income and a residence > > > outside of Europe. > > > - Delegates with an accepted paper and no or low income. > > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > > > with no income and a residence outside of Europe. > > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > > > with no income. > > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership > > > with a residence outside of Europe. > > > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership. > > > > > > Please note that even if we can grant you a bursary, you will still be > > > expected to pay a part of trip yourself, as well as your boarding and > > > lodging. > > > > > > We are not able to pay any royalties for presenters. > > > > > > > > > Important Dates > > > > > > > > > Please submit your contributions no later than the indicated dates: > > > > > > Abstract submission deadline: > > > May 15, 2003 > > > > > > Acceptance notification: > > > June 1, 2003 > > > > > > Final papers due: > > > June 30, 2003 > > > > > > all 23:59 UTC > > > > > > > > > > > > For the Program Comittee > > > > > > Matthias Kalle Dalheimer > > > President, KDE e.V. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > NoveHrady mailing list > > > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > > > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady =2D --=20 We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. =2D -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Nolden nolden@kde.org The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+mGVPu0nKi+w1Ky8RAkHfAJ0fEBEc30mMsuquJBE7HZlnwSIe5ACeNDO9 Pdl6QK/CheV3uzcGZvL5Crw=3D =3DiO7Q =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Mon Apr 14 19:52:55 2003 Received: (qmail 16634 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2003 17:52:49 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 Apr 2003 17:52:46 -0000 Received: from jeunehomme.troll.no ([80.232.37.158]:30352 "EHLO jeunehomme.troll.no" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 14 Apr 2003 19:52:40 +0200 From: Matthias Ettrich Organization: Trolltech Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 19:51:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.7 To: novehrady@mail.kde.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304141951.00618.ettrich@trolltech.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.6 required=5.5 tests=AWL,FWD_MSG,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Nove Hrady meeting X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 17:52:50 -0000 He is right. Kalle, Eva, Ralf, how do we proceed? Matthias ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Announcing the Nove Hrady meeting Date: Monday 14 April 2003 19:42 From: Chris Howells To: kde-ev-membership@mail.kde.org Hi, Is somebody going to announce the Nove Hraday meeting on kde-core-devel soon? It's going to be getting harder for people to organise time off work etc the later it gets. -- Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris@chrishowells.co.uk, howells@kde.org Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP ID: 33795A2C KDE: http://www.koffice.org, http://printing.kde.org, http://usability.kde.org _______________________________________________ Kde-ev-membership mailing list Kde-ev-membership@mail.kde.org http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-ev-membership ------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Mon Apr 14 21:53:08 2003 Received: (qmail 23969 invoked by uid 1055); 14 Apr 2003 19:53:07 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 23964 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2003 19:53:06 -0000 Received: from mailg.telia.com (194.22.194.26) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 Apr 2003 19:53:03 -0000 Received: from d1o293.telia.com (d1o293.telia.com [217.209.184.241]) by mailg.telia.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3EJr2SU024067 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:53:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: Received: from owl (h210n1fls34o293.telia.com [217.209.187.210]) by d1o293.telia.com (8.10.2p2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h3EJqMi12317 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:53:02 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Matthias Kalle Dalheimer To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:48:12 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <200304141951.00618.ettrich@trolltech.com> In-Reply-To: <200304141951.00618.ettrich@trolltech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304142148.12636.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-30.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,FWD_MSG,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: Fwd: Announcing the Nove Hrady meeting X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 19:53:07 -0000 On Monday 14 April 2003 19.51, Matthias Ettrich wrote: > He is right. Kalle, Eva, Ralf, how do we proceed? Just send out that CFP? Kalle > > Matthias > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Subject: Announcing the Nove Hrady meeting > Date: Monday 14 April 2003 19:42 > From: Chris Howells > To: kde-ev-membership@mail.kde.org > > Hi, > > Is somebody going to announce the Nove Hraday meeting on kde-core-devel > soon? It's going to be getting harder for people to organise time off w= ork > etc the later it gets. --=20 Matthias Kalle Dalheimer President & CEO Klar=E4lvdalens Datakonsult AB Platform-independent software solutions From nobody Tue Apr 15 11:16:19 2003 Received: (qmail 28853 invoked by uid 1055); 15 Apr 2003 09:16:17 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 28850 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2003 09:16:16 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 15 Apr 2003 09:16:14 -0000 Received: from jeunehomme.troll.no ([80.232.37.158]:4497 "EHLO jeunehomme.troll.no" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:15:54 +0200 From: Matthias Ettrich Organization: Trolltech To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:14:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.7 References: <200304141951.00618.ettrich@trolltech.com> <200304142148.12636.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> In-Reply-To: <200304142148.12636.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304151114.05022.ettrich@trolltech.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-24.4 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,FWD_MSG,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: Fwd: Announcing the Nove Hrady meeting X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 09:16:18 -0000 On Monday 14 April 2003 21:48, Matthias Kalle Dalheimer wrote: > On Monday 14 April 2003 19.51, Matthias Ettrich wrote: > > He is right. Kalle, Eva, Ralf, how do we proceed? > > Just send out that CFP? Sounds like a good start. An additional paragraph on the location (maybe with a link to Simon's webpage with the information PDF?) and a suggestion to the core KDE people to organise time off work could also help. Mr. President and or the rest of the board, may I pass this action point on to you? Matthias From nobody Tue Apr 15 11:23:05 2003 Received: (qmail 30124 invoked by uid 1055); 15 Apr 2003 09:23:03 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 30119 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2003 09:23:02 -0000 Received: from maile.telia.com (194.22.190.16) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 15 Apr 2003 09:23:01 -0000 Received: from d1o293.telia.com (d1o293.telia.com [217.209.184.241]) by maile.telia.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3F9MxDj018579; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:22:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: novehrady@kde.org Received: from owl (h210n1fls34o293.telia.com [217.209.187.210]) by d1o293.telia.com (8.10.2p2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h3F9Mxi12944; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:22:59 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Matthias Kalle Dalheimer To: novehrady@kde.org, Matthias Ettrich Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:22:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <200304141951.00618.ettrich@trolltech.com> <200304142148.12636.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> <200304151114.05022.ettrich@trolltech.com> In-Reply-To: <200304151114.05022.ettrich@trolltech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304151122.27289.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-30.2 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,FWD_MSG,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: Announcing the Nove Hrady meeting X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 09:23:05 -0000 On Tuesday 15 April 2003 11.14, Matthias Ettrich wrote: > On Monday 14 April 2003 21:48, Matthias Kalle Dalheimer wrote: > > On Monday 14 April 2003 19.51, Matthias Ettrich wrote: > > > He is right. Kalle, Eva, Ralf, how do we proceed? > > > > Just send out that CFP? > > Sounds like a good start. An additional paragraph on the location (may= be > with a link to Simon's webpage with the information PDF?) and a suggest= ion > to the core KDE people to organise time off work could also help. > > Mr. President and or the rest of the board, may I pass this action poin= t on > to you? Sure I can do that. Where is this location web site? Kalle --=20 Matthias Kalle Dalheimer President & CEO Klar=E4lvdalens Datakonsult AB Platform-independent software solutions From nobody Tue Apr 15 11:42:31 2003 Received: (qmail 5103 invoked by uid 1055); 15 Apr 2003 09:42:28 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 5101 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2003 09:42:28 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 15 Apr 2003 09:42:26 -0000 Received: from jeunehomme.troll.no ([80.232.37.158]:18833 "EHLO jeunehomme.troll.no" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:41:38 +0200 From: Matthias Ettrich Organization: Trolltech To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:39:48 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.7 References: <200304141951.00618.ettrich@trolltech.com> <200304151114.05022.ettrich@trolltech.com> <200304151122.27289.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> In-Reply-To: <200304151122.27289.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304151139.48122.ettrich@trolltech.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-26.4 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,FWD_MSG,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: Fwd: Announcing the Nove Hrady meeting X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 09:42:29 -0000 On Tuesday 15 April 2003 11:22, Matthias Kalle Dalheimer wrote: > On Tuesday 15 April 2003 11.14, Matthias Ettrich wrote: > > On Monday 14 April 2003 21:48, Matthias Kalle Dalheimer wrote: > > > On Monday 14 April 2003 19.51, Matthias Ettrich wrote: > > > > He is right. Kalle, Eva, Ralf, how do we proceed? > > > > > > Just send out that CFP? > > > > Sounds like a good start. An additional paragraph on the location (maybe > > with a link to Simon's webpage with the information PDF?) and a > > suggestion to the core KDE people to organise time off work could also > > help. > > > > Mr. President and or the rest of the board, may I pass this action point > > on to you? > > Sure I can do that. Where is this location web site? Type Alt-F2 and enter "http://trolls.troll.no/ettrich/NoveHrady.pdf" I also found one site with general trourist information in English, German and French on http://www.novehrady.cz Matthias > > Kalle From nobody Tue Apr 22 22:01:36 2003 Received: (qmail 19871 invoked by uid 1055); 22 Apr 2003 20:01:35 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 19869 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2003 20:01:35 -0000 Received: from ip-213157009013.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.9.13) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 22 Apr 2003 20:01:33 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23])h3MI0bm03219 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:00:38 +0200 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:03:32 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200304121759.07566.ettrich@trolltech.com> In-Reply-To: <200304121759.07566.ettrich@trolltech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304222103.53154.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-26.6 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: CFP - draft X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:01:35 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 12 April 2003 19:41, Matthias Ettrich wrote: > Hi, > > Kalle compiled a draft for a CFP (see below, thank you Kalle), heavily > inspired by the Linux Tag. Given the meaningful deadlines, we need to get > this out really soon now. > > What might still be improved is the list of fields: > > - Qt programming tricks > - kdelibs programming tricks > - DCOP development > - KParts development > - KOffice development > - aRts development > - programming tools > - programming patterns and development strategies > - project management issues > - internationalization > - documentation > - ... Some more that come to my mind: =2D - usability (esp. for the Siemens usability study and the other one in = Berlin) =2D - accessebility (important for application of KDE in public authorities) =2D - interoperability These topics correspond somewhat to Ralfs proposal to invite BSI. MAybe we= =20 have some other large scale installations with interesting aspects of using= =20 KDE? Greetings, eva > > Since we say that "Everything KDE-related will be considered", maybe we > don't have to be that specific? What about talks on real-world projects > deploying KDE in a big scale? The conference is meant to be interesting f= or > KDE developer as well, maybe there is some real interest in seeing how our > code is used out there? > > And maybe we should stress the fact that we also plan to do a 15 min > presentation track, where KDE authors have the possibility to present the= ir > work to other interested developers, potentially gaining new contributors > and co-developers. > > Ralf, others, any futher comments? > > Kalle, are you subscribed to novehrady@kde.org list? > > > Matthias > > > > --------------------- > > KDE Developers' Conference - Call for Papers > August 2xth to 2xth > Zamek, Nov=B4e Hrady, Czech Republic > > > Conference Program > > The KDE Developers' Conference is a meeting of worldwide KDE > gathers. It will start with two days of technical talks and end with a > three-day hacking session. Besides, there will be lots of time for > socializing. > > Do you have a particular expertise related to KDE programming that > could be useful for your fellow developers? Do you want to present a > particular programming pattern, a tool, a development strategy, or > anything else that helps KDE developers become more productive? Then > consider talking about it at the KDE Developers' Conference. > > We sollicit submissions for presentations from, but not restricted to > the following fields. Everything KDE-related will be considered. > > - Qt programming tricks > - kdelibs programming tricks > - DCOP development > - KParts development > - KOffice development > - aRts development > - programming tools > - programming patterns and development strategies > - project management issues > - internationalization > - documentation > - ... > > > Technical talks will be scheduled for 45 minutes talk and 15 minutes > Q&A. In some cases, it may be possible to occupy two slots for a total > talk time of 90 minutes. Please note this in your abstract if you > require this. > > There will also be room for short presentations of 15 minutes each, > and submissions for these are very welcome as well. > > Finally, BoF sessions can be announced in advance or planned on the > spot. A limited number of group rooms will be available for BoFs. > > > Submission Guidelines > > > Submissions will be accepted only electronically. Those proposing to > present papers should submit an abstract and a brief biography using a > form by email to nove-hrady-comittee@kde.org. The conference language > is English. The abstracts will be reviewed by the program committee > based on content, presentation and suitability for the event. Accepted > speakers will be notified and will be required to submit a written > paper of about ten pages (two to three pages for short presentations) > for inclusion in the conference proceedings. The papers must be in an > XML/DocBook format. Detailed guidelines will be provided to accepted > speakers. Submissions violating these rules or the formatting > guidelines may not be considered for publication. > > > Licensing of Accepted Papers > > > On acceptance, authors will be required to sign a Free Document > License that grants an unlimited, non-exclusive right to KDE e. V. and > its partners to publish the papers both in electronic form on CD-ROM > and the website and in paper form for the conference proceedings and > magazines. Your submission indicates that you agree to these > terms. Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreement forms can not be > accepted, and will not be reviewed. Papers will be held in full > confidence during the reviewing process. Authors of accepted papers > will be encouraged to supply electronic versions of their papers, as > well as source code and raw data to help others replicate and better > understand their results. > > > Location > > The KDE Developers' Conference will take place at the Zamek ("Castle") > in Nove Hrady in the Northern part of the Czech Republic in Central > Europe. Nove Hrady cannot easily be reached by public transportations, > but a shuttle service will be provided from Prague-Ruzyne airport and > Prague Central Station. > > > Speaker Incentives and Financial Compensation > > The KDE Developers' Conference is run by KDE e.V., a non-profit > organizationof volunteering professionals and enthusiasts of free and > open-source software. We only have a limited budget for this > conference, and cannot generally pay travel expenses or any other > reimbursement or gratification to speakers. We can provide > accomodation and boarding at a very low price (expect about 15-20 > Euros per day for full board and lodging, but don't expect luxury > accomodation), and the shuttle service from and to Prague will be free > of charge. > > KDE e.V. is solliciting donations from companies and individuals > towards this conference. These donations will be used both for running > the conference and for bursaries for delegates from other continents > and/or without income. These bursaries will be given according to the > following priorities: > > - Delegates with an accepted paper, no or low income and a residence > outside of Europe. > - Delegates with an accepted paper and no or low income. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > with no income and a residence outside of Europe. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership, > with no income. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership > with a residence outside of Europe. > - Delegates who are KDE e.V. members or have applied for membership. > > Please note that even if we can grant you a bursary, you will still be > expected to pay a part of trip yourself, as well as your boarding and > lodging. > > We are not able to pay any royalties for presenters. > > > Important Dates > > > Please submit your contributions no later than the indicated dates: > > Abstract submission deadline: > May 15, 2003 > > Acceptance notification: > June 1, 2003 > > Final papers due: > June 30, 2003 > > all 23:59 UTC > > > > For the Program Comittee > > Matthias Kalle Dalheimer > President, KDE e.V. > > _______________________________________________ > NoveHrady mailing list > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+pZIWTaAgihPikKQRAkSBAJ42ZwZtz85+Ln67HwVYaidX+clyPwCggw0h iZ9bpSj7WysKkcz+2nZa9aQ=3D =3DSvGw =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Tue Apr 22 23:03:48 2003 Received: (qmail 17510 invoked by uid 1055); 22 Apr 2003 21:03:46 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 17504 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2003 21:03:46 -0000 Received: from ip-213157009013.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.9.13) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 22 Apr 2003 21:03:41 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23])h3MJ2km03406 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:02:46 +0200 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:06:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <1048856955.3e84497bd53d4@leaf.greentech.cz> In-Reply-To: <1048856955.3e84497bd53d4@leaf.greentech.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304222206.02332.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-27.0 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Registration X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:03:48 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jirka, On Friday 28 March 2003 14:09, kosicek@greentech.cz wrote: > Welcome to everyone to this list. same to you, though there passed some quite time since your mail ;-) > > my name is Jirka Kosicek, and I will be reponsible here in Nove Hrady for > the technical organisation of the Linux conference KDE4. For any questions > regarding webregistration, technical aspects of the conference and stuff Webregistration sounds good... What kind of system can you setup?=20 =46or our European participants we need to coordinate travel somehow (for h= iring=20 busses, getting group tickets etc.). Therefore we have the problem, that=20 people will need to sign on for e.g. a bus, but we don't know yet which=20 busses are cost-effective. So either we need to have some kind of=20 preregistration to estimate who needs when to travel or we let people chang= e=20 their registration once the travel times of the busses are fixed.=20 What do you and the others think about that? The next question I have is, who will assign the rooms/meals. Will you take= =20 care of that also? Do you have any information about prices? Thank you for your willingness to support us, eva > like that, please feel free to contact me by email. > > Greetings > > Jirka Kosicek > > ----------------------------------------- > Academic and University Center Nove Hrady > Zamek 136 ; CZ-37333 ; Nove Hrady ; CZ > website:https://www.greentech.cz > _______________________________________________ > NoveHrady mailing list > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+paCpTaAgihPikKQRAtuqAJ9eABH0z5I2XvDxt+cVou0Zz1xYhgCfSmgq SGqN9iZVwP/rAV80up0G88A=3D =3Dd904 =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Sun Apr 27 17:58:43 2003 Received: (qmail 13625 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2003 15:58:41 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 27 Apr 2003 15:58:41 -0000 Received: from jeunehomme.troll.no ([80.232.37.158]:50597 "EHLO jeunehomme.troll.no" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 17:58:25 +0200 From: Matthias Ettrich Organization: Trolltech To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 17:53:25 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304271752.50671.ettrich@trolltech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-14.1 required=5.5 tests=AWL,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: KDE Developers' Conference 2003 - First Announcement X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 15:58:42 -0000 KDE Developers' Conference 2003 - First Announcement August 22 - 24 Zamek, Nov´e Hrady, Czech Republic This is the first announcement of the official KDE Developer's Conference 2003. It will take place at the Zamek ("Castle") in Nove Hrady in the Northern part of the Czech Republic in Central Europe. Compared to previous KDE conferences, this one will be bigger, both in terms of number of participants, scope and time. We will start with two days of technical talks in at least two parallel tracks, and end with an optional six-days project work and hacking session until the 31st. Besides, there will be lots of time for socializing. In case you have not yet heard of the location, find some information material on http://trolls.troll.no/ettrich/NoveHrady.pdf. It's a stylish location for a stylish desktop environment - and very close to the real Budweiser Budvar Brewery. There are excellent facilities on and around the castle, including a very fast network connection and cheap accommodation. Nove Hrady cannot easily be reached by public transportations, but a shuttle service will be provided from Prague-Ruzyne airport and Prague Central Station. Do you have a particular expertise related to KDE programming that could be useful for your fellow developers? Do you want to present a particular programming pattern, a tool, a development strategy, or anything else that helps KDE developers become more productive? Then consider talking about it at the KDE Developers' Conference. We solicit submissions for presentations from, but not restricted to the following fields. Everything KDE-related will be considered. - Qt programming tricks - kdelibs programming tricks - KParts development - KOffice development - aRts development - programming tools - programming patterns and development strategies - project management issues - internationalization - documentation - usability - accessibility - interoperability - ... Technical talks will be scheduled for 45 minutes talk and 15 minutes Q&A. In some cases, it may be possible to occupy two slots for a total talk time of 90 minutes. Please note this in your abstract if you require this. There will also be room for short presentations of 15 minutes each, and submissions for these are very welcome as well. A final call-for-papers will be sent out soon, as well as information on registration, speaker incentives and financial compensation. The purpose of this first announcement is mainly to help you schedule your summer vacation, so you can dedicate the last week in August to your favorite software project. If you have father questions at this point in time, or simply want to help with organizational issues , we have a mailing list novehrady@mail.kde.org. You can subscribe from http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady Looking forward to seeing you guys in sunny Czechia, Matthias From nobody Sun Apr 27 19:03:25 2003 Received: (qmail 11521 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2003 17:03:23 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 27 Apr 2003 17:03:21 -0000 Received: from jeunehomme.troll.no ([80.232.37.158]:9894 "EHLO jeunehomme.troll.no" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 19:03:08 +0200 From: Matthias Ettrich Organization: Trolltech To: kde-core-devel@kde.org, =?iso-8859-2?q?Luk=E1=B9=20Tinkl?= , novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 18:58:07 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.7 References: <200304271752.50671.ettrich@trolltech.com> <200304271837.29412.lukas.tinkl@suse.cz> In-Reply-To: <200304271837.29412.lukas.tinkl@suse.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304271858.07019.ettrich@trolltech.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-27.0 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: KDE Developers' Conference 2003 - First Announcement X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 17:03:24 -0000 On Sunday 27 April 2003 18:37, Luká¹ Tinkl wrote: > Dne ne 27. dubna 2003 17:52 Matthias Ettrich napsal(a): > > KDE Developers' Conference 2003 - First Announcement > > August 22 - 24 > > Zamek, Nov´e Hrady, Czech Republic > > > > This is the first announcement of the official KDE Developer's > > Conference 2003. It will take place at the Zamek ("Castle") in Nove > > Hrady in the Northern part of the Czech Republic in Central > > Europe. > > Some corrections: > - the name of the town is Nové Hrady > - it is not in the northern part but in the southern part, in fact very > close to the Austrian border ;) Oops, I shouldn't simply have cut/copy/pasted from the CFP draft... Matthias From nobody Sun Apr 27 21:58:17 2003 Received: (qmail 32451 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2003 16:40:27 -0000 Received: from azrael.spk.cz (194.196.134.186) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 27 Apr 2003 16:40:26 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (azrael [127.0.0.1]) by azrael.spk.cz (Postfix - Debian GNU/Linux) with SMTP id 4A3613465F5; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 18:31:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from goblin.spk.cz (unknown [194.196.123.62]) by azrael.spk.cz (Postfix - Debian GNU/Linux) with ESMTP id 768813465F3; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 18:31:52 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?q?Luk=E1=B9=20Tinkl?= Organization: SuSE CR To: kde-core-devel@kde.org, novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 18:37:28 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200304271752.50671.ettrich@trolltech.com> In-Reply-To: <200304271752.50671.ettrich@trolltech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304271837.29412.lukas.tinkl@suse.cz> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-25.9 required=5.5 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 21:58:16 +0200 Subject: Re: KDE Developers' Conference 2003 - First Announcement X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 16:40:28 -0000 Dne ne 27. dubna 2003 17:52 Matthias Ettrich napsal(a): > KDE Developers' Conference 2003 - First Announcement > August 22 - 24 > Zamek, Nov=B4e Hrady, Czech Republic > > This is the first announcement of the official KDE Developer's > Conference 2003. It will take place at the Zamek ("Castle") in Nove > Hrady in the Northern part of the Czech Republic in Central > Europe. Some corrections: =2D the name of the town is Nov=E9 Hrady =2D it is not in the northern part but in the southern part, in fact very c= lose=20 to the Austrian border ;) > In case you have not yet heard of the location, find some information > material on http://trolls.troll.no/ettrich/NoveHrady.pdf. It's a > stylish location for a stylish desktop environment - and very close to > the real Budweiser Budvar Brewery. There are excellent facilities on > and around the castle, including a very fast network connection and > cheap accommodation. Nove Hrady cannot easily be reached by public > transportations, but a shuttle service will be provided from > Prague-Ruzyne airport and Prague Central Station. Guys (and girls) at SuSE Prague will organize this shuttle. My plan is to=20 gather all the people in the SuSE offices during the day as they arrive and= =20 then later in the afternoon head for Nov=E9 Hrady. =46or this, I need to have a list of people that are going to attend togeth= er=20 with their arrival times and means of transport. Hope to meet you all, too =2D-=20 Luk=E1=B9 Tinkl KDE developer; KOffice release manager =2D-------------------------------------------------------------------- SuSE CR, s.r.o. e-mail: lukas.tinkl@suse.cz, lukas@kde.org Drahobejlova 27 tel: +420 2 9654 2373 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 2 9654 2374 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ From nobody Mon Apr 28 14:02:25 2003 Received: (qmail 15869 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2003 12:02:24 -0000 Received: from leaf.ufb.jcu.cz (HELO leaf.greentech.cz) (160.217.215.2) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 28 Apr 2003 12:02:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by leaf.greentech.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B48D938 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:04:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 160.217.215.100 ( [160.217.215.100]) as user kosicek@192.168.1.1 by leaf.greentech.cz with HTTP; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:02:34 +0200 Message-ID: <1051531354.3ead185a1e31f@leaf.greentech.cz> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:02:34 +0200 From: kosicek@greentech.cz To: novehrady@mail.kde.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 required=5.5 tests=AWL,NO_REAL_NAME,USER_AGENT_IMP version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: forward from Rudi Ettrich X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:02:24 -0000 Hello, I am the brother of Matthias and a little involved in the organisation of your meeting on the czech side. I was contacted by one canadian software company and one private austrian research center about the conditions of sponsoring the event. That means: What does the sponsor get back, will there be proceedings of the event, will the sponsors be metioned on the KDE-Website or on other websites and so on. Matthias told me that Eva Bruchseifer is handling stuff like that but that in the KDE world everything is discussed openly, so I write to this mailing list. Please reply to my adress ettrich@greentech.cz, as I am not a member of the mailing list. One other thing: As probably Matthias told you, we want to organise a small austrian-czech Linux exhibition with some accompanying program, that will take place in the time of your congress. (Don't get me wrong, you will have a quiet congress, just as you like it). Therefore it would be nice to have two or three speakers (famous people from the Linux/KDE World) that would like to take part in the program accompanying the exhibition. As the event takes place in the time of the so called summer-hole, where mass media have to report about different things due to the lack of political news, we want to use your congress for the propagation of Kde-Linux in the printed an other media of the Czech republic. I already spoke with people from the Czech Television and the Czech Radio, and it seems to be hopeful to get the possibility for some of you, for example Matthias, to promote KDE this way. I know that in a community of this type decisions and organization are complicated and take a long time, BUT I really need to have something in my hands to discuss things with the people from the media or the potentially sponsors, that means: How is the event called? KDE4? Who are the invited speakers? Which companies are already willing to sponsor? I also want to ask if you could mention our institute (Institute of Physical Biology) as a Co-organizer of the meeting in your announcments. For that you will get the congress facilities for free (you will only pay the accomodation and food and some small expenses we have connected with the organisation) Thanks a lot and greetings from South bohemia, Rudi ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- RNDr. Ruediger Ettrich, PhD. Laboratory of High Performance Computing Institute of Physical Biology USB and Institute of Landscape Ecology AVCR Phone: +420 386 361 297 Mobile: +420 608 522 558 Fax: +420 386 361 219 email: ettrich@greentech.cz ----------------------------------------- Academic and University Center Nove Hrady Zamek 136 ; CZ-37333 ; Nove Hrady ; CZ website:https://www.greentech.cz From nobody Mon Apr 28 14:38:52 2003 Received: (qmail 26277 invoked by uid 1055); 28 Apr 2003 12:38:50 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 26272 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2003 12:38:49 -0000 Received: from leaf.ufb.jcu.cz (HELO leaf.greentech.cz) (160.217.215.2) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 28 Apr 2003 12:38:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by leaf.greentech.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E493938; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:41:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 160.217.215.100 ( [160.217.215.100]) as user kosicek@192.168.1.1 by leaf.greentech.cz with HTTP; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:38:58 +0200 Message-ID: <1051533538.3ead20e21e330@leaf.greentech.cz> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:38:58 +0200 From: kosicek@greentech.cz To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org, Eva Brucherseifer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.6 required=5.5 tests=AWL,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1, USER_AGENT_IMP version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) cc: novehrady@kde.org Subject: Re: Registration X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:38:50 -0000 Hi Eva, Quoting Eva Brucherseifer : > > Webregistration sounds good... What kind of system can you setup? > For our European participants we need to coordinate travel somehow (for > hiring > busses, getting group tickets etc.). Therefore we have the problem, that > people will need to sign on for e.g. a bus, but we don't know yet which > busses are cost-effective. So either we need to have some kind of > preregistration to estimate who needs when to travel or we let people change > > their registration once the travel times of the busses are fixed. > What do you and the others think about that? There is no problem to install a net-registration. We have a prepared front end that we use for conferences. We can adapt this frontend for your purposes and place it on our web-sites (www.greentech.cz). We just need to know, which information exactly you want to collect (Name, Surname, Birthdate, Title of Poster or whatever) > > The next question I have is, who will assign the rooms/meals. Will you take > care of that also? Do you have any information about prices? > > Thank you for your willingness to support us, > eva > We can handle the rooms/meals. Infact we have blocked already for your event the capacities of our castle and the monastry 200m away. The actual prices are: Accomodation 150Kc/person/day (5Euro) in the castle, 250Kc/person/day (8,40Euro) in the Monastry. The food is for full pension (Breakfast, Lunch with coffee and cake afterwards, Dinner) 180 Kc/day (6Euro) Additionaly there are a couple of nice/better Appartments in the castle, that we normaly use for "higher" guest. On conferences these are often used for invited speakers etc., there the price ranges between 300-500Kc/person/day (10- 17Euro). Also there is a couple of pensions and hotels in the town, prices rank around 10 Euro/night. Please let me know, if you want to couple the accomodation directly with the registration for the conference, or if we shall prepare an extra registration site (probably not everybody will stay the complete week, but only for the congress days). What about the social program, do you want some trip to Krumlov or the Budweiser Brewery? Let me know in time. Greetings Jirka ----------------------------------------- Academic and University Center Nove Hrady Zamek 136 ; CZ-37333 ; Nove Hrady ; CZ website:https://www.greentech.cz From nobody Mon Apr 28 19:12:12 2003 Received: (qmail 11433 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2003 08:27:54 -0000 Received: from stud3.tuwien.ac.at (root@193.170.75.13) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 28 Apr 2003 08:27:53 -0000 Received: from pc063 (pc063.ben.tuwien.ac.at [193.170.75.113]) KAA29916 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 10:27:51 +0200 (METDST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Joseph Wenninger To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 10:27:50 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200304281027.50837.jowenn@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.8 required=5.5 tests=USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:12:10 +0200 Subject: registration / quarters X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 08:27:55 -0000 Hi all Two questions: 1) Where to register for the event? I must have missed that information somewhere in the announcement. 2) How are accommodations organized ? Kind regards Joseph Wenninger From nobody Mon Apr 28 19:12:12 2003 Received: (qmail 4946 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2003 09:19:43 -0000 Received: from leaf.ufb.jcu.cz (HELO leaf.greentech.cz) (160.217.215.2) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 28 Apr 2003 09:19:41 -0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by leaf.greentech.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A40E931 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 13:22:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 160.217.215.100 ( [160.217.215.100]) as user ettrich@192.168.1.1 by leaf.greentech.cz with HTTP; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 11:19:49 +0200 Message-ID: <1051521589.3eacf235c4371@leaf.greentech.cz> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 11:19:49 +0200 From: ettrich@greentech.cz To: novehrady@mail.kde.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.5 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,USER_AGENT_IMP version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:12:10 +0200 Subject: Sponsoring of the KDE-meeting X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 09:19:45 -0000 Hello, I am the brother of Matthias and a little involved in the organisation of your meeting on the czech side. I was contacted by one canadian software company and one private austrian research center about the conditions of sponsoring the event. That means: What does the sponsor get back, will there be proceedings of the event, will the sponsors be metioned on the KDE-Website or on other websites and so on. Matthias told me that Eva Bruchseifer is handling stuff like that but that in the KDE world everything is discussed openly, so I write to this mailing list. Please reply to my adress ettrich@greentech.cz, as I am not a member of the mailing list. One other thing: As probably Matthias told you, we want to organise a small austrian-czech Linux exhibition with some accompanying program, that will take place in the time of your congress. (Don't get me wrong, you will have a quiet congress, just as you like it). Therefore it would be nice to have two or three speakers (famous people from the Linux/KDE World) that would like to take part in the program accompanying the exhibition. As the event takes place in the time of the so called summer-hole, where mass media have to report about different things due to the lack of political news, we want to use your congress for the propagation of Kde-Linux in the printed an other media of the Czech republic. I already spoke with people from the Czech Television and the Czech Radio, and it seems to be hopeful to get the possibility for some of you, for example Matthias, to promote KDE this way. I know that in a community of this type decisions and organization are complicated and take a long time, BUT I really need to have something in my hands to discuss things with the people from the media or the potentially sponsors, that means: How is the event called? KDE4? Who are the invited speakers? Which companies are already willing to sponsor? I also want to ask if you could mention our institute (Institute of Physical Biology) as a Co-organizer of the meeting in your announcments. For that you will get the congress facilities for free (you will only pay the accomodation and food and some small expenses we have connected with the organisation) Thanks a lot and greetings from South bohemia, Rudi ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- RNDr. Ruediger Ettrich, PhD. Laboratory of High Performance Computing Institute of Physical Biology USB and Institute of Landscape Ecology AVCR Phone: +420 386 361 297 Mobile: +420 608 522 558 Fax: +420 386 361 219 email: ettrich@greentech.cz ----------------------------------------- Academic and University Center Nove Hrady Zamek 136 ; CZ-37333 ; Nove Hrady ; CZ website:https://www.greentech.cz From nobody Mon Apr 28 19:12:13 2003 Received: (qmail 30425 invoked by uid 1055); 28 Apr 2003 14:09:48 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 30421 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2003 14:09:48 -0000 Received: from dsl-213-023-054-060.arcor-ip.net (HELO philemon.slackpad) (213.23.54.60) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 28 Apr 2003 14:09:45 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])h3SE8kRL022051 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:08:47 +0200 From: Scott Wheeler To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:08:46 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200304281608.46353.wheeler@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.5 tests=AWL,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:12:10 +0200 Subject: invitations and perception X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:09:49 -0000 I was just talking to Ralf on IRC. It seems that there's some confusion as to who will actually be allowed to attend the meeting. By way of posting something on the dot, I think most readers interpreted it as an open invitation: === "Too bad there aren't more KDE conferences here in the US. [...] I'm stuck here in MN and I wish something would happen closer to home." (from someone that doesn't appear to be a contributer) "i wish i could be there! though i am not much experienced in KDE programming." "Those conferences have ever been too far away to just get there and listen to it (as i am not an active developer... but i'd love to be...). Now this is _really_ close to austria, and as i live in Freistadt it's even better :-) Lookin' forward to that event!" === My impression and it seems Ralf's too is that only "non-contributors only from very interested parties paying for participation IIRC" (quote of Ralf on IRC) will be invited. In the end I don't really care, but it might be a good idea that if there is a conflict between the perception and reality that this is cleared up publically. Cheers, -Scott -- The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. --Bertrand Russell From nobody Mon Apr 28 22:03:21 2003 Received: (qmail 32286 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2003 20:03:19 -0000 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@130.149.17.13) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 28 Apr 2003 20:03:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (binner@fiesta.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.4]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA22809 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 22:01:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Binner To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 22:01:21 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200304271752.50671.ettrich@trolltech.com> <200304271837.29412.lukas.tinkl@suse.cz> In-Reply-To: <200304271837.29412.lukas.tinkl@suse.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304282201.21902.binner@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-29.2 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: KDE Developers' Conference 2003 - First Announcement X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 20:03:20 -0000 On Sunday 27 April 2003 18:37, Luká¹ Tinkl wrote: > Guys (and girls) at SuSE Prague will organize this shuttle. My plan is to > gather all the people in the SuSE offices during the day as they arrive and > then later in the afternoon head for Nové Hrady. Any plans for a departure shuttle? Only on 24th or on 31th August too? :-) Bye, Steve From nobody Mon Apr 28 23:01:43 2003 Received: (qmail 26215 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2003 21:01:41 -0000 Received: from ip-213157009013.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.9.13) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 28 Apr 2003 21:01:40 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23])h3SJ0am30711; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:00:37 +0200 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: kde-core-devel@kde.org, novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 22:03:47 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200304271752.50671.ettrich@trolltech.com> <200304271837.29412.lukas.tinkl@suse.cz> In-Reply-To: <200304271837.29412.lukas.tinkl@suse.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304282203.55894.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-29.4 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: KDE Developers' Conference 2003 - First Announcement X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:01:41 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 27 April 2003 18:37, Luk=E1=B9 Tinkl wrote: > Dne ne 27. dubna 2003 17:52 Matthias Ettrich napsal(a): > > In case you have not yet heard of the location, find some information > > material on http://trolls.troll.no/ettrich/NoveHrady.pdf. It's a > > stylish location for a stylish desktop environment - and very close to > > the real Budweiser Budvar Brewery. There are excellent facilities on > > and around the castle, including a very fast network connection and > > cheap accommodation. Nove Hrady cannot easily be reached by public > > transportations, but a shuttle service will be provided from > > Prague-Ruzyne airport and Prague Central Station. > > Guys (and girls) at SuSE Prague will organize this shuttle. My plan is to > gather all the people in the SuSE offices during the day as they arrive a= nd > then later in the afternoon head for Nov=E9 Hrady. > > For this, I need to have a list of people that are going to attend togeth= er > with their arrival times and means of transport. =46or those of you, who are traveling from Central/Western Europe: We will = try=20 to get a tour bus since we expect a larger number of developers from there.= =20 Already now we encourage you to group together in order to make traveling=20 cheaper. After your registration for the event we'll check for similar rout= es=20 and contact you again on that. > > Hope to meet you all, too Me too :-) Greetings, eva =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+rYkqTaAgihPikKQRAqfVAKCK5MQnQjByMggTkGGyOJLfj2Us4gCeKrMc 7/qAqZeOxd7gbJBVxYRIHek=3D =3DrRYK =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Mon Apr 28 23:20:09 2003 Received: (qmail 5343 invoked by uid 1055); 28 Apr 2003 21:20:06 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 5322 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2003 21:20:06 -0000 Received: from ip-213157009013.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.9.13) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 28 Apr 2003 21:20:03 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23])h3SJIom30761; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:18:51 +0200 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: kosicek@greentech.cz, novehrady@kde.org Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 22:22:08 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <1051533538.3ead20e21e330@leaf.greentech.cz> In-Reply-To: <1051533538.3ead20e21e330@leaf.greentech.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304282222.09539.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-30.3 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: Registration X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:20:07 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jirka, On Monday 28 April 2003 14:38, kosicek@greentech.cz wrote: > Hi Eva, > > Quoting Eva Brucherseifer : > > Webregistration sounds good... What kind of system can you setup? > > For our European participants we need to coordinate travel somehow (for > > hiring > > busses, getting group tickets etc.). Therefore we have the problem, that > > people will need to sign on for e.g. a bus, but we don't know yet which > > busses are cost-effective. So either we need to have some kind of > > preregistration to estimate who needs when to travel or we let people > > change > > > > their registration once the travel times of the busses are fixed. > > What do you and the others think about that? > > There is no problem to install a net-registration. We have a prepared fro= nt > end that we use for conferences. We can adapt this frontend for your > purposes and place it on our web-sites (www.greentech.cz). We just need to > know, which information exactly you want to collect (Name, Surname, > Birthdate, Title of Poster or whatever) That is great. I'll provide a list later this week. > > > The next question I have is, who will assign the rooms/meals. Will you > > take care of that also? Do you have any information about prices? > > > > Thank you for your willingness to support us, > > eva > > We can handle the rooms/meals. Infact we have blocked already for your > event the capacities of our castle and the monastry 200m away. The actual > prices are: Accomodation 150Kc/person/day (5Euro) in the castle, > 250Kc/person/day (8,40Euro) in the Monastry. The food is for full pension > (Breakfast, Lunch with coffee and cake afterwards, Dinner) 180 Kc/day > (6Euro) > Additionaly there are a couple of nice/better Appartments in the castle, > that we normaly use for "higher" guest. On conferences these are often us= ed > for invited speakers etc., there the price ranges between > 300-500Kc/person/day (10- 17Euro). Also there is a couple of pensions and > hotels in the town, prices rank around 10 Euro/night. This are pretty fair prices! > Please let me know, if you want to couple the accomodation directly with > the registration for the conference, or if we shall prepare an extra > registration site (probably not everybody will stay the complete week, but > only for the congress days). I think, we don't have to split this. We can ask for the arrival and the=20 departure day as well as which events they want to take part in.=20 > What about the social program, do you want some trip to Krumlov or the > Budweiser Brewery? Let me know in time. This sounds like a good idea for the week after the conference. The confere= nce=20 itself is rather short, so maybe we should not interrupt it. How long does = a=20 visit to Budweiser or Krumlov take? (And what is Krumlov?) Besides this I'd like to suggest a social event for saturday evening (durin= g=20 the conference). Maybe some more special dinner, or barbecue if the wether = is=20 fine... do you think you can arrange something like that? Greetings, eva > > Greetings > Jirka > ----------------------------------------- > Academic and University Center Nove Hrady > Zamek 136 ; CZ-37333 ; Nove Hrady ; CZ > website:https://www.greentech.cz =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+rY1wTaAgihPikKQRAvRZAJ4iQ4vt67n5ZqjE6k68wivkMWT8oQCdFgkg VfL4w84PN9Qf5X8A/qC2ZnA=3D =3DhmaD =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Mon Apr 28 23:32:36 2003 Received: (qmail 12249 invoked by uid 1055); 28 Apr 2003 21:32:35 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 12234 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2003 21:32:34 -0000 Received: from mailf.telia.com (194.22.194.25) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 28 Apr 2003 21:32:33 -0000 Received: from d1o293.telia.com (d1o293.telia.com [217.209.184.241]) by mailf.telia.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3SLWICs011610; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 23:32:19 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: novehrady@kde.org Received: from owl (h210n1fls34o293.telia.com [217.209.187.210]) by d1o293.telia.com (8.10.2p2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h3SLWIi19042; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 23:32:18 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Matthias Kalle Dalheimer To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org, kosicek@greentech.cz Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 23:31:26 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <1051533538.3ead20e21e330@leaf.greentech.cz> <200304282222.09539.eva@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200304282222.09539.eva@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304282331.26236.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-30.9 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: Re: Registration X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:32:35 -0000 On Monday 28 April 2003 20.22, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > Hi Jirka, > > On Monday 28 April 2003 14:38, kosicek@greentech.cz wrote: > > Hi Eva, > > > > Quoting Eva Brucherseifer : > > > Webregistration sounds good... What kind of system can you setup? > > > For our European participants we need to coordinate travel somehow = (for > > > hiring > > > busses, getting group tickets etc.). Therefore we have the problem, > > > that people will need to sign on for e.g. a bus, but we don't know = yet > > > which busses are cost-effective. So either we need to have some kin= d of > > > preregistration to estimate who needs when to travel or we let peop= le > > > change > > > > > > their registration once the travel times of the busses are fixed. > > > What do you and the others think about that? > > > > There is no problem to install a net-registration. We have a prepared > > front end that we use for conferences. We can adapt this frontend for > > your purposes and place it on our web-sites (www.greentech.cz). We ju= st > > need to know, which information exactly you want to collect (Name, > > Surname, Birthdate, Title of Poster or whatever) > > That is great. I'll provide a list later this week. > > > > The next question I have is, who will assign the rooms/meals. Will = you > > > take care of that also? Do you have any information about prices? > > > > > > Thank you for your willingness to support us, > > > eva > > > > We can handle the rooms/meals. Infact we have blocked already for you= r > > event the capacities of our castle and the monastry 200m away. The ac= tual > > prices are: Accomodation 150Kc/person/day (5Euro) in the castle, > > 250Kc/person/day (8,40Euro) in the Monastry. The food is for full pen= sion > > (Breakfast, Lunch with coffee and cake afterwards, Dinner) 180 Kc/day > > (6Euro) > > Additionaly there are a couple of nice/better Appartments in the cast= le, > > that we normaly use for "higher" guest. On conferences these are ofte= n > > used for invited speakers etc., there the price ranges between > > 300-500Kc/person/day (10- 17Euro). Also there is a couple of pensions= and > > hotels in the town, prices rank around 10 Euro/night. > > This are pretty fair prices! > > > Please let me know, if you want to couple the accomodation directly w= ith > > the registration for the conference, or if we shall prepare an extra > > registration site (probably not everybody will stay the complete week= , > > but only for the congress days). > > I think, we don't have to split this. We can ask for the arrival and th= e > departure day as well as which events they want to take part in. > > > What about the social program, do you want some trip to Krumlov or th= e > > Budweiser Brewery? Let me know in time. > > This sounds like a good idea for the week after the conference. The > conference itself is rather short, so maybe we should not interrupt it.= How > long does a visit to Budweiser or Krumlov take? (And what is Krumlov?) Czesk=B4y Krumlov, Unesco World Heritage, a beautiful old town including = castle.=20 (And they've got brown bears in the castle ditch!) Kalle > > Besides this I'd like to suggest a social event for saturday evening > (during the conference). Maybe some more special dinner, or barbecue if= the > wether is fine... do you think you can arrange something like that? > > Greetings, > eva > > > Greetings > > Jirka > > ----------------------------------------- > > Academic and University Center Nove Hrady > > Zamek 136 ; CZ-37333 ; Nove Hrady ; CZ > > website:https://www.greentech.cz > > _______________________________________________ > NoveHrady mailing list > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady --=20 Matthias Kalle Dalheimer President & CEO Klar=E4lvdalens Datakonsult AB Platform-independent software solutions From nobody Tue Apr 29 14:16:57 2003 Received: (qmail 23376 invoked by uid 1055); 29 Apr 2003 12:16:32 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 23148 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2003 12:16:13 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 29 Apr 2003 12:16:12 -0000 Received: from jeunehomme.troll.no ([80.232.37.158]:8361 "EHLO jeunehomme.troll.no" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:15:56 +0200 From: Matthias Ettrich Organization: Trolltech To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:10:26 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.7 References: <200304281608.46353.wheeler@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200304281608.46353.wheeler@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304291410.26885.ettrich@trolltech.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-25.7 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: invitations and perception X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 12:16:55 -0000 On Monday 28 April 2003 16:08, Scott Wheeler wrote: > I was just talking to Ralf on IRC. It seems that there's some confusion as > to who will actually be allowed to attend the meeting. > > By way of posting something on the dot, I think most readers interpreted it > as an open invitation: [snip] Thanks for the feedback, I'll work on the messaging. The conference clearly is not a user's conference, but a developer's conference (where other contributors most certainly count as developers). The talks will be technical and targeted towards developers. KDE users that seek more information on how to utilize KDE do better visiting e.g. the LinuxTag. If nobody comes up with a better suggestion, the name will be in good old KDE tradition KDE FOUR - Developer's Conference 2003 ("Kastle") The purpose of a conference in that scale is to help KDE development and to promote both KDE and GNU/Linux. This is done in various ways: - get to know each other better - exchange knowledge and ideas - work and plan together (in bofs and the session after the conference) In addition there's anothe important factor: Movitation and new contributors. Most KDE developers started with smaller contributions and eventually got hooked. And a conference is an excellent place to finally give into your burning desire of creating free software every spare minute of the rest of your life. We have facitilies for many people in NoveHrady, we can easily host 150 guests or more. This means we can and should explicitely invite new contributors that just started, and also contributors in spe that want to start. The conference then can also be a place where you find new contributors for your projects. My understanding is that there are many people who would like to contribute, but don't exactly know how to start. Some personal contact to a maintainer is a good way of starting. Matthias From nobody Tue Apr 29 19:37:27 2003 Received: (qmail 4920 invoked by uid 1055); 29 Apr 2003 12:55:24 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 4918 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2003 12:55:23 -0000 Received: from mail1.sns.it (HELO sns.it) (192.84.155.4) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 29 Apr 2003 12:55:23 -0000 Received: from [131.114.138.37] (account ) by sns.it (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 3.5.9) with HTTP id 3423029 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:10:21 +0200 From: "Andrea RIZZI" To: novehrady@kde.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.5.9 Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:10:21 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200304291410.26885.ettrich@trolltech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.9 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 19:37:27 +0200 Subject: Re: invitations and perception X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 12:55:24 -0000 On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:10:26 +0200 Matthias Ettrich wrote: > KDE FOUR - Developer's Conference 2003 ("Kastle") What about "KDE Contributor's Conference" (so that artist, translators, doc-writer and so on do not feel not invited) Bye Andrea From nobody Tue Apr 29 19:37:28 2003 Received: (qmail 31459 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2003 13:52:55 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 29 Apr 2003 13:52:54 -0000 Received: (from localhost user: 'porten', uid#530) by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:52:39 +0200 Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:52:39 +0200 (CEST) Sender: Harri Porten From: Harri Porten To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-15.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 19:37:27 +0200 Subject: Re: invitations and perception X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 13:53:01 -0000 > I was just talking to Ralf on IRC. It seems that there's some confusion > as to who will actually be allowed to attend the meeting. > > By way of posting something on the dot, I think most readers interpreted > it as an open invitation: Better than a "closed invitation" which wouldn't make sense :) > My impression and it seems Ralf's too is that only "non-contributors > only from very interested parties paying for participation IIRC" > (quote of Ralf on IRC) will be invited. Observing the effect on people joining a KDE meeting (or tradeshow booth) for the first time I would like to stress the importance of letting as many "fresh" people come as the infrastructure allows. The motivation boost has always been great and lead to a strong attachment due to the "I'm now part of KDE" feeling. I think that's important to counter any aging and isolation effects. > In the end I don't really care, but it might be a good idea that if > there is a conflict between the perception and reality that this is > cleared up publically. Agreed. Harri. From nobody Tue Apr 29 21:55:14 2003 Received: (qmail 20833 invoked by uid 1055); 29 Apr 2003 19:55:13 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 20829 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2003 19:55:13 -0000 Received: from mailf.telia.com (194.22.194.25) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 29 Apr 2003 19:55:12 -0000 Received: from d1o293.telia.com (d1o293.telia.com [217.209.184.241]) by mailf.telia.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3TJt7ep003441; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:55:11 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: novehrady@kde.org Received: from owl (h210n1fls34o293.telia.com [217.209.187.210]) by d1o293.telia.com (8.10.2p2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h3TJt3i27010; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:55:07 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Matthias Kalle Dalheimer To: novehrady@kde.org, "Andrea RIZZI" Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:52:14 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304292152.14033.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-29.1 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: Re: invitations and perception X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 19:55:13 -0000 On Tuesday 29 April 2003 13.10, Andrea RIZZI wrote: > On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:10:26 +0200 > > Matthias Ettrich wrote: > > KDE FOUR - Developer's Conference 2003 ("Kastle") > > What about "KDE Contributor's Conference" (so that artist, > translators, doc-writer and so on do not feel not invited) We've always maintained that translators, documentation writers, etc. *AR= E*=20 developers. They just don't do develop code, but other deliverables, that= are=20 no less important. Kalle --=20 Matthias Kalle Dalheimer President & CEO Klar=E4lvdalens Datakonsult AB Platform-independent software solutions From nobody Wed Apr 30 09:44:43 2003 Received: (qmail 22577 invoked by uid 1055); 30 Apr 2003 07:44:42 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 22572 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 07:44:42 -0000 Received: from sns.it (192.84.155.4) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 07:44:37 -0000 Received: from [131.114.138.37] (account ) by sns.it (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 3.5.9) with HTTP id 3431267; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:59:40 +0200 From: "Andrea RIZZI" To: novehrady@kde.org,novehrady@kde.org, "Andrea RIZZI" X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.5.9 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:59:40 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200304292152.14033.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=5.5 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: invitations and perception X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 07:44:42 -0000 On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:52:14 +0000 Matthias Kalle Dalheimer > > What about "KDE Contributor's Conference" (so that > artist, > > translators, doc-writer and so on do not feel not > invited) > > We've always maintained that translators, documentation > writers, etc. *ARE* > developers. They just don't do develop code, but other > deliverables, that are > no less important. Sure, the problem is that many translators, if you say "Developer converence", think they are not invited. Bye Andrea From nobody Wed Apr 30 09:44:44 2003 Received: (qmail 22576 invoked by uid 1055); 30 Apr 2003 07:44:42 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 22572 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 07:44:42 -0000 Received: from sns.it (192.84.155.4) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 07:44:37 -0000 Received: from [131.114.138.37] (account ) by sns.it (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 3.5.9) with HTTP id 3431267; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:59:40 +0200 From: "Andrea RIZZI" To: novehrady@kde.org,novehrady@kde.org, "Andrea RIZZI" X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.5.9 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:59:40 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200304292152.14033.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=5.5 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: invitations and perception X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 07:44:42 -0000 On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:52:14 +0000 Matthias Kalle Dalheimer > > What about "KDE Contributor's Conference" (so that > artist, > > translators, doc-writer and so on do not feel not > invited) > > We've always maintained that translators, documentation > writers, etc. *ARE* > developers. They just don't do develop code, but other > deliverables, that are > no less important. Sure, the problem is that many translators, if you say "Developer converence", think they are not invited. Bye Andrea From nobody Wed Apr 30 10:25:03 2003 Received: (qmail 2652 invoked by uid 1055); 30 Apr 2003 08:25:01 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 2642 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 08:25:00 -0000 Received: from mailg.telia.com (194.22.194.26) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 08:24:58 -0000 Received: from d1o293.telia.com (d1o293.telia.com [217.209.184.241]) by mailg.telia.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3U8Or5S014643 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:24:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: Received: from owl (h210n1fls34o293.telia.com [217.209.187.210]) by d1o293.telia.com (8.10.2p2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h3U8Oqi02870 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:24:52 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Matthias Kalle Dalheimer To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:23:35 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304301023.35257.kalle@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-28.9 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: Re: invitations and perception X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 08:25:02 -0000 On Wednesday 30 April 2003 07.59, Andrea RIZZI wrote: > On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:52:14 +0000 > Matthias Kalle Dalheimer > > > > What about "KDE Contributor's Conference" (so that > > > > artist, > > > > > translators, doc-writer and so on do not feel not > > > > invited) > > > > We've always maintained that translators, documentation > > writers, etc. *ARE* > > developers. They just don't do develop code, but other > > deliverables, that are > > no less important. > > Sure, the problem is that many translators, if you say > "Developer converence", think they are not invited. Yes, maybe we should make that more clear. Kalle --=20 Matthias Kalle Dalheimer President & CEO Klar=E4lvdalens Datakonsult AB Platform-independent software solutions From nobody Wed Apr 30 12:10:00 2003 Received: (qmail 12720 invoked by uid 1055); 30 Apr 2003 10:09:58 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 12706 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 10:09:58 -0000 Received: from glia.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (130.83.28.4) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 10:09:56 -0000 Received: from janeway.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (janeway [130.83.28.87]) by glia.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C923310AC32; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:09:50 +0200 (MEST) From: Eva Brucherseifer Organization: K Desktop Environment To: sdesseaux@free.fr Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:12:48 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200304271752.50671.ettrich@trolltech.com> <200304282203.55894.eva@kde.org> <200304301208.12531.sdesseaux@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <200304301208.12531.sdesseaux@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304301212.48699.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-28.5 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) cc: novehrady@kde.org Subject: Re: KDE Developers' Conference 2003 - First Announcement X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:09:59 -0000 Hi Samual, On Wednesday 30 April 2003 12:08, samuel desseaux wrote: > Hi! > > i plan to attend at the conference. For the arrival times, i don't know > actually (i may come from Poland or maybe, i will visit Prag before). > Anyway, i would be happy to meet KDE's developer and some guys from Suse > (my best linux) For the registration to we're in the process of setting up a web form. It will be announced on kde-core-devel and maybe also on the dot in 1 or 2 weeks, please register yourself there. We expect about 150 participants, therefore its best to handle everything in a database ;-) About the travel: Maybe there are other contributors traveling from Poland as well (e.g. translators. Isn't there also a KDE artist living in Poland?). Please check wether you can travel together, you probably can reduce travel costs this way. > > regards > > samuel (newbie in kde 's development but many projects in my head) Hopefully the meeting will help to realize your ideas :-)) See you in Nove Hrady, eva > > > On Sunday 27 April 2003 18:37, Luká¹ Tinkl wrote: > > > Dne ne 27. dubna 2003 17:52 Matthias Ettrich napsal(a): > > > > In case you have not yet heard of the location, find some information > > > > material on http://trolls.troll.no/ettrich/NoveHrady.pdf. It's a > > > > stylish location for a stylish desktop environment - and very close > > > > to the real Budweiser Budvar Brewery. There are excellent facilities > > > > on and around the castle, including a very fast network connection > > > > and cheap accommodation. Nove Hrady cannot easily be reached by > > > > public transportations, but a shuttle service will be provided from > > > > Prague-Ruzyne airport and Prague Central Station. > > > > > > Guys (and girls) at SuSE Prague will organize this shuttle. My plan is > > > to gather all the people in the SuSE offices during the day as they > > > arrive and then later in the afternoon head for Nové Hrady. > > > > > > For this, I need to have a list of people that are going to attend > > > together with their arrival times and means of transport. > > > > For those of you, who are traveling from Central/Western Europe: We will > > try to get a tour bus since we expect a larger number of developers from > > there. Already now we encourage you to group together in order to make > > traveling cheaper. After your registration for the event we'll check for > > similar routes and contact you again on that. > > > > > Hope to meet you all, too > > > > Me too :-) > > > > Greetings, > > eva > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQE+rYkqTaAgihPikKQRAqfVAKCK5MQnQjByMggTkGGyOJLfj2Us4gCeKrMc > > 7/qAqZeOxd7gbJBVxYRIHek= > > =rRYK > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Wed Apr 30 15:34:46 2003 Received: (qmail 8428 invoked by uid 1055); 30 Apr 2003 06:50:30 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 8425 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 06:50:30 -0000 Received: from meg.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (134.109.132.57) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 06:50:27 -0000 Received: from isdn67.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de ([134.109.164.67] ident=daniel) by meg.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with esmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.12) id 19AlQA-0000Vk-00; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 08:50:26 +0200 From: Daniel Molkentin Organization: KDE To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 08:50:13 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304300850.20024.molkentin@kde.org> X-Spam-Score: -12.1 (------------) X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *19AlQA-0000Vk-00*YPVX8VSv68A* X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-19.0 required=5.5 tests=AWL,PGP_SIGNATURE,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:34:44 +0200 cc: Christopher TenHarmsel cc: Matthias Ettrich Subject: 2 workshops for the conference X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:50:31 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! I thought about interesting and important issues that we should discuss (an= d=20 possibly solve) at Nove Hrady. Please send further input so we can organize that in the best way. I guess it will also be imporant for the organization= of=20 the event so I prereferred to post it now that later. Note that those are=20 ideas, I am not going to organize both, the other one is only sort of a=20 reminder. 1) A while back, Matthias suggested KDE integration into Qt ("KDE as a=20 supported pattform for Qt"). This is very important for the perception of=20 consistance (key word: file-open dialog, but that doesn't cover everything = of=20 course). What progress has Trolltech already made for Qt4 wrt that? I'd lik= e=20 to propose to set up a "task force" from TT and KDE developers that work ou= t=20 a sensible plan. Should this be done a workshop? Matthias, what do you thin= k? Type: Workshop Participants: TT developers, KDE developers Organizer: open, any takers? 2) Under Windows, MacOS and other operating systems, the user is used to a= =20 consistant set of tools for basic system administration. Currently every=20 distribution ships their own setup routines for that. While this is perfect= ly=20 fine for the setup itself, I think tools for basic system administration (a= t=20 least for the average set of tasks a home user has, I'd prefer DE-integrate= d=20 tools (I am thinking of a KControl spin-off similar to KInfoCenter containi= ng=20 applets for (basic) system administration). Those should have backends for= =20 each distributor to fit his needs (ideally perl I guess, assuming Perl=20 knowlege > C++ kowledge at most distributors). The other side is probably t= he=20 marketing side of things (many people buy Distributions because they like=20 their tools, so I guess many don't even want to drop sets of them for the=20 sake of something common. This also needs to be worked out. Type: Workshop Participants: KControl-involved/interested developers, distributors Organizer: so far only me. Chris, can you come/are you interested? Cheers, Daniel =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+r3Iqu1Wkf8kBwz4RAi5kAKCCBIWKgZHGzKfxwDIphTiXSz/4ugCgilPz bL6QTu47OTbJMOV7FeBI2Dw=3D =3D6bRx =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Wed Apr 30 15:34:47 2003 Received: (qmail 15142 invoked by uid 1055); 30 Apr 2003 13:22:49 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 15138 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 13:22:49 -0000 Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (207.217.120.62) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 13:22:48 -0000 Received: from h-68-164-12-60.chcgilgm.covad.net ([68.164.12.60] helo=pain.staticmethod.net) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19ArXp-0007En-00; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:22:45 -0700 Received: from [192.168.10.1] (helo=localhost) by pain.staticmethod.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ArXo-0000Ah-00; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 08:22:44 -0500 From: Christopher TenHarmsel Organization: StaticMethod To: Daniel Molkentin , novehrady@kde.org Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:22:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.9 References: <200304300850.20024.molkentin@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200304300850.20024.molkentin@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304300922.47816.tenharmsel@staticmethod.net> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-31.3 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:34:44 +0200 cc: Matthias Ettrich Subject: Re: 2 workshops for the conference X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 13:22:50 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 30 April 2003 02:50, Daniel Molkentin wrote: > 2) Under Windows, MacOS and other operating systems, the user is used to a > consistant set of tools for basic system administration. Currently every > distribution ships their own setup routines for that. While this is > perfectly fine for the setup itself, I think tools for basic system > administration (at least for the average set of tasks a home user has, I'd > prefer DE-integrated tools (I am thinking of a KControl spin-off similar = to > KInfoCenter containing applets for (basic) system administration). Those > should have backends for each distributor to fit his needs (ideally perl I > guess, assuming Perl knowlege > C++ kowledge at most distributors). The > other side is probably the marketing side of things (many people buy > Distributions because they like their tools, so I guess many don't even > want to drop sets of them for the sake of something common. This also nee= ds > to be worked out. > > Type: Workshop > Participants: KControl-involved/interested developers, distributors > Organizer: so far only me. Chris, can you come/are you interested? When is the event at Nove Hrady? I'm hoping to be in Europe for LinuxTag i= n=20 July, but I'm in the states until then, so I probably won't be able to make= =20 it. I think it's a great focus area though, as I highly agree that basic=20 system administration tools for the desktop user are just about completely= =20 missing, and most tools that exist aim somewhere inbetween smart user and=20 linux expert, completely leaving out people who aren't very familiar with=20 linux at all. Even if I can't be there, I'd like to stay involved in any discussions abou= t=20 this. =2D -Chris =2D --=20 Christopher TenHarmsel, KDE Developer Public Key on www.keyserver.net The famous politician was trying to save both his faces. =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+r84lX4RAkQTBjgURAudUAJ9hOFUW3Cse8GASR1VepHIHSVXHYwCeLwnh YlPFWhIhxGMRZ5if57pAz+U=3D =3DJ1jT =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Wed Apr 30 15:59:51 2003 Received: (qmail 23794 invoked by uid 1055); 30 Apr 2003 13:59:45 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 23732 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 13:59:40 -0000 Received: from gate2.danka.de (HELO firewall.danka.de) (62.154.236.58) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 13:59:39 -0000 Received: from [10.160.32.5] (helo=mailgw.danka.de) by firewall.danka.de with esmtp (Exim 6.66 #1) id 19As6X-0003MA-00 for novehrady@kde.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:58:37 +0200 Received: from danka.de ([10.160.51.60]) by mailgw.danka.de (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HE5TSW00.K5L; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:05:20 +0200 Message-ID: <3EAFD633.2070905@danka.de> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:57:07 +0200 From: "Kurt Pfeifle" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021204 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: novehrady@kde.org References: <200304300850.20024.molkentin@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200304300850.20024.molkentin@kde.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.71.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanner: exiscan *19As6X-0003MA-00*21DRyLsT5HY* on Astaro Security Linux X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-28.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: 2 workshops for the conference X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 13:59:50 -0000 Daniel Molkentin wrote: > Hi! > > I thought about interesting and important issues that we should discuss (and > possibly solve) at Nove Hrady. Please send further input so we can organize > that in the best way. I guess it will also be imporant for the organization of > the event so I prereferred to post it now that later. Note that those are > ideas, I am not going to organize both, the other one is only sort of a > reminder. > > 1) A while back, Matthias suggested KDE integration into Qt ("KDE as a > supported pattform for Qt"). This is very important for the perception of > consistance (key word: file-open dialog, but that doesn't cover everything of > course). What progress has Trolltech already made for Qt4 wrt that? I'd like > to propose to set up a "task force" from TT and KDE developers that work out > a sensible plan. Should this be done a workshop? Matthias, what do you think? > > Type: Workshop > Participants: TT developers, KDE developers > Organizer: open, any takers? > > 2) Under Windows, MacOS and other operating systems, the user is used to a > consistant set of tools for basic system administration. Yes! (Why can't I even set an IP address with a KDE tool?) > Currently every > distribution ships their own setup routines for that. While this is perfectly > fine for the setup itself, I think tools for basic system administration (at > least for the average set of tasks a home user has, I'd prefer DE-integrated > tools (I am thinking of a KControl spin-off similar to KInfoCenter containing > applets for (basic) system administration). Those should have backends for > each distributor to fit his needs (ideally perl I guess, assuming Perl > knowlege > C++ kowledge at most distributors). The other side is probably the > marketing side of things (many people buy Distributions because they like > their tools, so I guess many don't even want to drop sets of them for the > sake of something common. This also needs to be worked out. > > Type: Workshop > Participants: KControl-involved/interested developers, distributors > Organizer: so far only me. Chris, can you come/are you interested? > > Cheers, > Daniel From nobody Wed Apr 30 16:01:32 2003 Received: (qmail 20248 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 13:39:54 -0000 Received: from expresso.netweaver.net (217.151.99.17) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 13:39:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 21891 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 13:32:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 213-78-107-70.friaco.onetel.net.uk) (chris@chrishowells.co.uk@213.78.107.70) by 0 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 13:32:45 -0000 From: Chris Howells Organization: K Desktop Environment To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:40:01 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.9 References: <200304300850.20024.molkentin@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200304300850.20024.molkentin@kde.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5863 DF82 C34D 7291 CC63 CA1B 17C2 2ED7 3379 5A2C MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304301440.01224.howells@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-36.9 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:01:31 +0200 Subject: Re: 2 workshops for the conference X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 13:39:54 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Wednesday 30 April 2003 07:50, Daniel Molkentin wrote: > administration (at least for the average set of tasks a home user has, I'd > prefer DE-integrated tools (I am thinking of a KControl spin-off similar = to > KInfoCenter containing applets for (basic) system administration). Those > should have backends for each distributor to fit his needs (ideally perl I > guess, assuming Perl knowlege > C++ kowledge at most distributors). The > other side is probably the marketing side of things (many people buy > Distributions because they like their tools, so I guess many don't even > want to drop sets of them for the sake of something common. This also nee= ds > to be worked out. GNOME Setup tools (previously known as Ximian setup tools) has a perl-based= =20 backend. Quite a while ago, there was an effort to write a KDE/Qt frontend,= =20 but nothing happened AFAIK: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gst/ =2D --=20 Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris@chrishowells.co.uk, howells@kde.org Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP ID: 33795A2C KDE: http://www.koffice.org, http://printing.kde.org, http://usability.kde.= org =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+r9IxF8Iu1zN5WiwRAu9RAJ0SynBcJ0tBb9qtRB3v6Tms/fSg1ACfUDY9 DSdQusbVGw06MLfE9ZEG3WU=3D =3D2aZz =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Wed Apr 30 16:28:45 2003 Received: (qmail 5969 invoked by uid 1055); 30 Apr 2003 14:28:44 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 5967 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 14:28:44 -0000 Received: from perninha.conectiva.com.br (200.250.58.156) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 14:28:40 -0000 Received: from burns.conectiva (burns.conectiva [10.0.0.4]) by perninha.conectiva.com.br (Postfix) with SMTP id 45E2B47475 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:28:03 -0300 (BRT) Received: (qmail 21821 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 2003 14:24:39 -0000 Received: from underdog.distro.conectiva (10.0.17.101) by burns.conectiva with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 14:24:39 -0000 From: Helio Chissini de Castro Organization: Conectiva S.A. To: novehrady@kde.org, Daniel Molkentin Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:28:11 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.9 References: <200304300850.20024.molkentin@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200304300850.20024.molkentin@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_819r+YoM9dcpmTs"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200304301128.18115.helio@conectiva.com.br> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-30.7 required=5.5 tests=AWL,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) cc: Christopher TenHarmsel Subject: Re: 2 workshops for the conference X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:28:45 -0000 --Boundary-02=_819r+YoM9dcpmTs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline Em Qua 30 Abr 2003 03:50, Daniel Molkentin escreveu: > 2) Under Windows, MacOS and other operating systems, the user is used to a > consistant set of tools for basic system administration. Currently every > distribution ships their own setup routines for that. While this is > perfectly fine for the setup itself, I think tools for basic system > administration (at least for the average set of tasks a home user has, I'd > prefer DE-integrated tools (I am thinking of a KControl spin-off similar = to > KInfoCenter containing applets for (basic) system administration). Those > should have backends for each distributor to fit his needs (ideally perl I > guess, assuming Perl knowlege > C++ kowledge at most distributors). The > other side is probably the marketing side of things (many people buy > Distributions because they like their tools, so I guess many don't even > want to drop sets of them for the sake of something common. This also nee= ds > to be worked out. > > Type: Workshop > Participants: KControl-involved/interested developers, distributors > Organizer: so far only me. Chris, can you come/are you interested? I can offer some in this topic, since i'm intend to write a study case abou= t=20 one of our large customers. They are the first latin america computer=20 integrator that ships with Conectiva Linux now all based on KDE ( not an=20 entire Linux distro ) and all dificulties that we have ( mostly i ) to=20 achieve their needs and requests. Lot's of things related to user side and admin side too. I wil contact the customer managers to got authorize to mention their name = e=20 project details, and got their complaints too. []'s > > Cheers, > Daniel > > _______________________________________________ > NoveHrady mailing list > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady =2D-=20 Helio Chissini de Castro KDE Developer Development - Conectiva S.A. --Boundary-02=_819r+YoM9dcpmTs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+r9188KVbYLGVrvcRAlofAKC6L+zDuXjhAcsKKJAE3kA0gtML4wCgvnIe BUHvEtKn12crDEqfBcuk+tg= =3gLF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_819r+YoM9dcpmTs-- From nobody Wed Apr 30 16:30:07 2003 Received: (qmail 6554 invoked by uid 1055); 30 Apr 2003 14:30:06 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 6548 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 14:30:05 -0000 Received: from glia.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (130.83.28.4) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 14:30:03 -0000 Received: from janeway.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (janeway [130.83.28.87]) by glia.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100AD10AC35; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:30:00 +0200 (MEST) From: Eva Brucherseifer Organization: K Desktop Environment To: novehrady@kde.org, Christopher TenHarmsel , Daniel Molkentin Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:32:59 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200304300850.20024.molkentin@kde.org> <200304300922.47816.tenharmsel@staticmethod.net> In-Reply-To: <200304300922.47816.tenharmsel@staticmethod.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304301632.59150.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-28.6 required=5.5 tests=AWL,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Re: 2 workshops for the conference X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:30:06 -0000 On Wednesday 30 April 2003 15:22, Christopher TenHarmsel wrote: > On Wednesday 30 April 2003 02:50, Daniel Molkentin wrote: > > 2) Under Windows, MacOS and other operating systems, the user is used to > > a consistant set of tools for basic system administration. Currently > > every distribution ships their own setup routines for that. While this is > > perfectly fine for the setup itself, I think tools for basic system > > administration (at least for the average set of tasks a home user has, > > I'd prefer DE-integrated tools (I am thinking of a KControl spin-off > > similar to KInfoCenter containing applets for (basic) system > > administration). Those should have backends for each distributor to fit > > his needs (ideally perl I guess, assuming Perl knowlege > C++ kowledge at > > most distributors). The other side is probably the marketing side of > > things (many people buy Distributions because they like their tools, so I > > guess many don't even want to drop sets of them for the sake of something > > common. This also needs to be worked out. > > > > Type: Workshop > > Participants: KControl-involved/interested developers, distributors > > Organizer: so far only me. Chris, can you come/are you interested? > > When is the event at Nove Hrady? I'm hoping to be in Europe for LinuxTag You can check it out here: http://dot.kde.org/1051497356/ > in July, but I'm in the states until then, so I probably won't be able to > make it. I think it's a great focus area though, as I highly agree that > basic system administration tools for the desktop user are just about > completely missing, and most tools that exist aim somewhere inbetween smart > user and linux expert, completely leaving out people who aren't very > familiar with linux at all. One word about LinuxTag: We'll handle Linuxtag a bit different from last year (probably we should make this more public, it seems some developers expect it be a little developer meeting again as the last years). The differences are: - focussing on the promo aspect - no funding of travel expenses - funding for hotel only if one helps out at the booth a significant amount of his time during the event - all developers who want to come to Linuxtag in order to meet other developers should consider travelling to Nove Hrady instead The main reason is, that our (KDE e.V.'s) budget is not that high and we want to spend it rather in Nove Hrady than for Linuxtag. Also people might not be able to travel twice and they want to meet as many KDE people as possible. This will be possible in Nove Hrady (we have 150 places there). That for the general idea. It would be cool to have a meeting of the promo team at one of the events. Also members of the promo team might be interested to see how we do promotion in Germany. As far as I know the members of the german team will be present at both events, so for us it doesn't really matter where we have a meeting. Greetings, eva > > Even if I can't be there, I'd like to stay involved in any discussions > about this. > > -Chris From nobody Wed Apr 30 16:44:17 2003 Received: (qmail 11676 invoked by uid 1055); 30 Apr 2003 14:44:13 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 11613 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 14:44:07 -0000 Received: from leaf.ufb.jcu.cz (HELO leaf.greentech.cz) (160.217.215.2) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 14:43:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by leaf.greentech.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A4B94C; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 18:46:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 160.217.215.84 ( [160.217.215.84]) as user kosicek@192.168.1.1 by leaf.greentech.cz with HTTP; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:43:48 +0200 Message-ID: <1051713828.3eafe12416def@leaf.greentech.cz> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:43:48 +0200 From: kosicek@greentech.cz To: eva@kde.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.9 required=5.5 tests=AWL,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1, USER_AGENT_IMP version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) cc: novehrady@kde.org Subject: Re: Registration X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:44:16 -0000 Hi Eva, Quoting Eva Brucherseifer : > > > What about the social program, do you want some trip to Krumlov or the > > Budweiser Brewery? Let me know in time. > > This sounds like a good idea for the week after the conference. The > conference > itself is rather short, so maybe we should not interrupt it. How long does a > > visit to Budweiser or Krumlov take? (And what is Krumlov?) Both is a little more than half an hour away by car. A visit to the brewery could be a half-a-day thing. Krumlov would need a little more time, probably a whole day, as there is a lot to see, as Kalle already described. > > Besides this I'd like to suggest a social event for saturday evening (during > > the conference). Maybe some more special dinner, or barbecue if the wether is > > fine... do you think you can arrange something like that? > No problem, I would suggest a barbecue on the castle terace, with some local speciality foods. We have a contract with a catering company arranging things like that for us. I have one additional question. As I understood, you mentioned 150 people for the three congress days. How many people you think will stay the whole week after the congress (coding-week)? (not exactly, only roughly..) Thanks and greetings Jirka ----------------------------------------- Academic and University Center Nove Hrady Zamek 136 ; CZ-37333 ; Nove Hrady ; CZ website:https://www.greentech.cz From nobody Wed Apr 30 16:53:57 2003 Received: (qmail 18285 invoked by uid 1055); 30 Apr 2003 14:53:47 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 18233 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 14:53:42 -0000 Received: from leaf.ufb.jcu.cz (HELO leaf.greentech.cz) (160.217.215.2) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 14:53:41 -0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by leaf.greentech.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D0594C for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 18:56:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 160.217.215.84 ( [160.217.215.84]) as user kosicek@192.168.1.1 by leaf.greentech.cz with HTTP; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:53:55 +0200 Message-ID: <1051714435.3eafe38340604@leaf.greentech.cz> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:53:55 +0200 From: kosicek@greentech.cz To: novehrady@kde.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=5.5 tests=AWL,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1, USER_AGENT_IMP version=2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.52 (1.174.2.8-2003-03-24-exp) Subject: Social Program X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:53:55 -0000 Hi Eva, Quoting Eva Brucherseifer : > > > What about the social program, do you want some trip to Krumlov or the > > Budweiser Brewery? Let me know in time. > > This sounds like a good idea for the week after the conference. The > conference > itself is rather short, so maybe we should not interrupt it. How long does a > > visit to Budweiser or Krumlov take? (And what is Krumlov?) Both is a little more than half an hour away by car. A visit to the brewery could be a half-a-day thing. Krumlov would need a little more time, probably a whole day, as there is a lot to see, as Kalle already described. > > Besides this I'd like to suggest a social event for saturday evening (during > > the conference). Maybe some more special dinner, or barbecue if the wether is > > fine... do you think you can arrange something like that? > No problem, I would suggest a barbecue on the castle terace, with some local speciality foods. We have a contract with a catering company arranging things like that for us. I have one additional question. As I understood, you mentioned 150 people for the three congress days. How many people you think will stay the whole week after the congress (coding-week)? (not exactly, only roughly..) Thanks and greetings Jirka ----------------------------------------- Academic and University Center Nove Hrady Zamek 136 ; CZ-37333 ; Nove Hrady ; CZ website:https://www.greentech.cz From nobody Fri May 2 20:11:25 2003 Received: (qmail 27066 invoked from network); 2 May 2003 18:10:28 -0000 Received: from idefix.htl-tex.ac.at (@192.189.51.137) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 2 May 2003 18:10:27 -0000 Received: from rohrpostfix.htl-tex.ac.at (miraculix.htl-tex.ac.at [192.189.51.100]) by idefix.htl-tex.ac.at (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA14973 for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 20:10:17 +0200 Received: from MIRACULIX/SpoolDir by rohrpostfix.htl-tex.ac.at (Mercury 1.48); 2 May 03 20:10:33 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by MIRACULIX (Mercury 1.48); 2 May 03 20:10:06 +0100 Received: from einzelpe5abv6i (80.121.36.60) by rohrpostfix.htl-tex.ac.at (Mercury 1.48); 2 May 03 20:10:03 +0100 From: "Bernhard Fronhofer" To: Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 20:07:57 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C310E6.862D3CE0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.5 required=5.5 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 02 May 2003 20:11:25 +0200 Subject: Request for Information! 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network); 8 May 2003 16:25:36 -0000 Received: from rtv5.czechbone.net (HELO main.rtv5.cz) (root@212.96.160.67) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 8 May 2003 16:25:36 -0000 Received: from tiscali.cz (prudek.breclav.lan [192.168.210.29]) by main.rtv5.cz (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) with ESMTP id h48GPZZG031747 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 18:25:35 +0200 Message-ID: <3EBA8392.3000706@tiscali.cz> Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 18:19:30 +0200 From: Milos Prudek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021204 X-Accept-Language: cs, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.8 required=5.5 tests=USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: register presentation X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 16:25:37 -0000 Hi, is it not too late to register a presentation for Nove Hrady? -- Milos Prudek From nobody Mon May 12 15:13:36 2003 Received: (qmail 1577 invoked by uid 1055); 12 May 2003 13:13:35 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 1575 invoked from network); 12 May 2003 13:13:35 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 12 May 2003 13:13:34 -0000 Received: (from localhost user: 'porten', uid#530) by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:13:15 +0200 Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:13:15 +0200 (CEST) Sender: Harri Porten From: Harri Porten To: novehrady@kde.org In-Reply-To: <200304121759.07566.ettrich@trolltech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.3 required=5.5 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Contact address (was: CFP - draft) X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 13:13:35 -0000 On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, it was written: > Submissions will be accepted only electronically. Those proposing to > present papers should submit an abstract and a brief biography using a > form by email to nove-hrady-comittee@kde.org. The conference language Is there such an e-mail address set up already ? I tried above with and without the spelling error but the mails both bounced. Matthias asked me to help with organizing the speakers. If there's any contact address or list set up please add me. Thanks, Harri. From nobody Wed May 14 14:25:28 2003 Received: (qmail 5390 invoked by uid 1055); 14 May 2003 12:25:23 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 5346 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 12:25:21 -0000 Received: from ip-213157009137.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.9.137) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 12:25:20 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23])h4EAOWm04545 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:24:32 +0200 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 13:27:23 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_bgiw+cIuADhsvBi" Message-Id: <200305141327.24781.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.0 required=5.5 tests=PGP_SIGNATURE,UPPERCASE_25_50,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: registration data X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:25:27 -0000 --Boundary-00=_bgiw+cIuADhsvBi Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, attached you'll find a list of data for the webregistration. Does the team = for=20 the conference part need any additional data? What about the workshop=20 organisation? (Who's doing this btw?) Anything else I forgot? Thanks, eva =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+wigbTaAgihPikKQRAryKAKCAY/jS0O3ICEfJlyzcG0zdTL7wLwCfXVff IWCkQ0QJq/SQE5a+oDZY4/o=3D =3Dn2/9 =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-00=_bgiw+cIuADhsvBi Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="registration_data.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="registration_data.txt" Name Street ZIP/City Country Email Phone Mobile Phone KDE Project IRC Nickname PGP/GPG-Finterprint participance: - KDE e.V. meeting - Conference - Training - Workshops/Free Coding Arrival Date/Time Arriving from Arriving to Departure Date/Time Departing from Departing to Rooms Social Event Hardware you bring Workshop Proposal Comment --Boundary-00=_bgiw+cIuADhsvBi-- From nobody Wed May 14 14:46:46 2003 Received: (qmail 11282 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 12:46:40 -0000 Received: from ip-213157009137.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.9.137) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 12:46:39 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23])h4EAjnm04635; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:45:49 +0200 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: kde-promo@kde.org, kde-core-devel@kde.org, novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 13:48:38 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305141348.41583.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.1 required=5.5 tests=PGP_SIGNATURE,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: [nove hrady] Help wanted X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:46:40 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, as you probably all now, there will be a large KDE Conference in Nove Hrady= in=20 August this year (http://dot.kde.org/1051497356/). For the preperations we= =20 need a lot of hands to help so that it will be a successful meeting.=20 Therefore volunteers are needed: =2D - We need "journalists", who follow the preperations and the conference= itself=20 and write little stories for the dot and for the nove hrady info pages =2D - We need a team who prepares everything to know at events.kde.org (dat= e,=20 arrival, prices, touristic things, etc.) =2D - We need people who help to gather more sponsors and prepare letters t= o send=20 to possible sponsors.=20 =2D - We need people who take care of the travel organisation (who is trave= ling=20 from where and when, can routes be joined at a lower price, etc.). In Europ= e=20 we want to hire one or more busses. Data will be gathered from a=20 webregistration.=20 Or course that's not all and I am sure there will arise more things. Basica= lly=20 every helper is welcome. If you are interested, please contact us at=20 novehrady@kde.org Greetings, eva =20 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+wi0WTaAgihPikKQRAh2lAJ0aXAQPRBD1n4wE4Ae+aBVaY5844QCeKAY4 YFrhFJV+/WuEhJSMqdMV6Yo=3D =3DAYee =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Wed May 14 15:20:05 2003 Received: (qmail 22201 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 13:05:27 -0000 Received: from epistula.trinity.unimelb.edu.au (203.28.240.16) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 13:05:25 -0000 Received: by epistula.trinity.unimelb.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 105) id 63A6B1801D; Wed, 14 May 2003 23:05:22 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by epistula.trinity.unimelb.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8CF1801F; Wed, 14 May 2003 23:05:20 +1000 (EST) Received: from roger.trinity.unimelb.edu.au (roger.trinity.unimelb.edu.au [203.28.240.3]) by epistula.trinity.unimelb.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBC71801D; Wed, 14 May 2003 23:05:17 +1000 (EST) Received: by roger.trinity.unimelb.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 1280) id 991B417E45; Wed, 14 May 2003 23:05:16 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 23:05:16 +1000 From: Daniel Stone To: Eva Brucherseifer Message-ID: <20030514130516.GG24752@trinity.unimelb.edu.au> Mail-Followup-To: Eva Brucherseifer , kde-promo@kde.org, kde-core-devel@kde.org, novehrady@mail.kde.org References: <200305141348.41583.eva@kde.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IuhbYIxU28t+Kd57" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200305141348.41583.eva@kde.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-GnuPG-Key: 3CED7EFD X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020316 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-38.8 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:20:04 +0200 cc: novehrady@mail.kde.org cc: kde-core-devel@kde.org cc: kde-promo@kde.org Subject: Re: [nove hrady] Help wanted X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 13:05:27 -0000 --IuhbYIxU28t+Kd57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:48:38PM +0200, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > - - We need people who take care of the travel organisation (who is trave= ling=20 > from where and when, can routes be joined at a lower price, etc.). In Eur= ope=20 > we want to hire one or more busses. Data will be gathered from a=20 > webregistration.=20 This is a really important point. Debian's currently organizing DebConf 3, and they worked out that, instead of paying ~1200 Euro for a Toronto->Oslo flight, you could pay 300 Euro for a Toronto->London flight, and then ~100 Euro for a Toronto->Oslo flight. If local knowledge like this can save someone 800 Euro, then it's already worth the effort put in, and more. :) The more participants, the better. I'd love to be there myself, only I have exams. Oh well. Keep up the good work! :) d --=20 Daniel Stone KDE: Konquering a desktop near you - http://www.kde.org --IuhbYIxU28t+Kd57 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+wj8McPClnTztfv0RAoHpAJ9wsTO8reaXdq2ApLJARYxfVoS6jACaAwLw 0QZMnbrYs5aFQghOr48AjNs= =1vl0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IuhbYIxU28t+Kd57-- From nobody Wed May 14 16:56:08 2003 Received: (qmail 26164 invoked by uid 1055); 14 May 2003 14:56:06 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 26160 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 14:56:06 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 14:56:05 -0000 Received: (from localhost user: 'porten', uid#530) by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 14 May 2003 16:55:50 +0200 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 16:55:50 +0200 (CEST) Sender: Harri Porten From: Harri Porten To: novehrady@kde.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-397395163-1216259838-1052924150=:22388" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.5 tests=HAS_CONTENT_ID,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: CFP draft 2 X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:56:07 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---397395163-1216259838-1052924150=:22388 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi ! I went through Kalle's first Call for Papers proposal and applied the following changes: - filled in a date (23. - 24.) (or are the tutorials still planned on the 25. ?) and consequently dropped references to the hacking session - dropped info about the paper format (XML/DocBook) and licensing to avoid scaring off interested parties with seemingly strict regulations. Detailed information will be send to accepted speakers later. - integrated exemplaric topics suggested by others earlier - suggest more flexibility in terms of time scheduling - mentioned the university's institute as a sponsor - shortened the bursary prioritization statements to refer to speakers only. OPEN issues: - fill in new times for deadlines - what about the tutorials ? - could we maybe guarantee to fully sponsor boarding and lodging of speakers ? The call would be more appetizing in this case. 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esmtp (Exim 6.66 #1) id 19FxuU-0003aI-00 for novehrady@kde.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 17:11:14 +0200 Received: from danka.de ([10.160.51.60]) by mailgw.danka.de (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HEVUIV00.4O6; Wed, 14 May 2003 17:18:31 +0200 Message-ID: <3EC25C14.1040306@danka.de> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 17:09:08 +0200 From: "Kurt Pfeifle" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021204 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: novehrady@kde.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.71.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanner: exiscan *19FxuU-0003aI-00*Qur7VVMa6SA* on Astaro Security Linux X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-31.9 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: CFP draft 2 X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:11:50 -0000 Harri Porten wrote: > The KDE Developers' Conference will take place at the Zamek ("Castle") > in Nove Hrady in the Northern part Isn't it the southern part? > of the Czech Republic in Central > Europe. Kurt From nobody Wed May 14 17:13:43 2003 Received: (qmail 2070 invoked by uid 1055); 14 May 2003 15:13:41 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 2068 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 15:13:41 -0000 Received: from gate2.danka.de (HELO firewall.danka.de) (62.154.236.58) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 15:13:40 -0000 Received: from [10.160.32.5] (helo=mailgw.danka.de) by firewall.danka.de with esmtp (Exim 6.66 #1) id 19FxwM-0003oU-00 for novehrady@kde.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 17:13:10 +0200 Received: from danka.de ([10.160.51.60]) by mailgw.danka.de (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HEVUM300.DPJ; Wed, 14 May 2003 17:20:27 +0200 Message-ID: <3EC25C88.1090500@danka.de> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 17:11:04 +0200 From: "Kurt Pfeifle" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021204 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: novehrady@kde.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.71.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanner: exiscan *19FxwM-0003oU-00*GfQ/8aD6Fxo* on Astaro Security Linux X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-31.9 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: CFP draft 2 X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:13:42 -0000 Harri Porten wrote: > Important Dates > > > Please submit your contributions no later than the indicated dates: > > Abstract submission deadline: > May 15, 2003 Are you serious? Kurt From nobody Wed May 14 17:28:29 2003 Received: (qmail 7765 invoked by uid 1055); 14 May 2003 15:28:25 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 7751 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 15:28:24 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 15:28:21 -0000 Received: (from localhost user: 'porten', uid#530) by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 14 May 2003 17:28:16 +0200 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 17:28:16 +0200 (CEST) Sender: Harri Porten From: Harri Porten X-Sender: porten@trolltech.com To: novehrady@kde.org In-Reply-To: <3EC25C88.1090500@danka.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-16.2 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTE_TWICE_1,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: CFP draft 2 X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:28:28 -0000 On Wed, 14 May 2003, Kurt Pfeifle wrote: > > Abstract submission deadline: > > May 15, 2003 > > Are you serious? Read the OPEN section of my mail. Harri. From nobody Wed May 14 17:31:15 2003 Received: (qmail 8301 invoked by uid 1055); 14 May 2003 15:31:14 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 8299 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 15:31:13 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 15:31:13 -0000 Received: (from localhost user: 'porten', uid#530) by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 14 May 2003 17:30:49 +0200 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 17:30:49 +0200 (CEST) Sender: Harri Porten From: Harri Porten X-Sender: porten@trolltech.com To: novehrady@kde.org In-Reply-To: <3EC25C14.1040306@danka.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-25.9 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: CFP draft 2 X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:31:14 -0000 On Wed, 14 May 2003, Kurt Pfeifle wrote: > > The KDE Developers' Conference will take place at the Zamek ("Castle") > > in Nove Hrady in the Northern part > > Isn't it the southern part? Judging from the map that's true. Will fix. Harri. From nobody Wed May 14 18:05:40 2003 Received: (qmail 21524 invoked by uid 1055); 14 May 2003 16:05:39 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 21519 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 16:05:39 -0000 Received: from rtv5.czechbone.net (HELO main.rtv5.cz) (212.96.160.67) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 16:05:38 -0000 Received: from tiscali.cz (prudek.breclav.lan [192.168.210.29]) by main.rtv5.cz (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) with ESMTP id h4EG5ZZG021938; Wed, 14 May 2003 18:05:36 +0200 Message-ID: <3EC267E9.8090204@tiscali.cz> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 17:59:37 +0200 From: Milos Prudek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021204 X-Accept-Language: cs, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org References: <200305141327.24781.eva@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200305141327.24781.eva@kde.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-31.9 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: registration data X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 16:05:39 -0000 Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > attached you'll find a list of data for the webregistration. Does the team for > the conference part need any additional data? What about the workshop > organisation? (Who's doing this btw?) > Anything else I forgot? Should I register my presentation by email or wait for a web based registration? -- Milos Prudek _________________ Most websites are confused chintzy gaudy conflicting tacky unpleasant... unusable. Learn how usable is YOUR website! http://www.spoxdesign.com From nobody Wed May 14 18:17:28 2003 Received: (qmail 25973 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 16:15:21 -0000 Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (207.217.120.22) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 16:15:19 -0000 Received: from h-68-165-57-158.chcgilgm.covad.net ([68.165.57.158] helo=pain.staticmethod.net) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19FyuS-0007Fl-00; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:15:16 -0700 Received: from [192.168.10.1] (helo=localhost) by pain.staticmethod.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19FyuR-0004qb-00; Wed, 14 May 2003 11:15:15 -0500 From: Christopher TenHarmsel Organization: StaticMethod To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:15:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.9 References: <200305141348.41583.eva@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200305141348.41583.eva@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200305141215.47745.tenharmsel@staticmethod.net> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-38.2 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 May 2003 18:17:27 +0200 cc: Eva Brucherseifer Subject: Re: [kde-promo] [nove hrady] Help wanted X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 16:15:22 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 14 May 2003 07:48, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > Hi, > > as you probably all now, there will be a large KDE Conference in Nove Hra= dy > in August this year (http://dot.kde.org/1051497356/). For the preperations > we need a lot of hands to help so that it will be a successful meeting. > Therefore volunteers are needed: I heard there was some confusion about who's actually attending this=20 conference, has this been cleared up at all. I had thought about flying ou= t=20 from the US to try and go, but then heard that it was by invite only, then = I=20 heard that it wasn't, so I'm fairly confused. > - We need "journalists", who follow the preperations and the conference > itself and write little stories for the dot and for the nove hrady info > pages - We need a team who prepares everything to know at events.kde.org > (date, arrival, prices, touristic things, etc.) > - We need people who help to gather more sponsors and prepare letters to > send to possible sponsors. > - We need people who take care of the travel organisation (who is traveli= ng > from where and when, can routes be joined at a lower price, etc.). In > Europe we want to hire one or more busses. Data will be gathered from a > webregistration. I'm interested in helping out in any way I can. If I had some more info, I= 'd=20 be more than happy to try and get sponsors, or prepare letters for sponsors= =2E =20 I'm also trying to get some work done on the events.kde.org website (Eva, d= id=20 you get my email?) and would be happy to coordinate information being put u= p=20 there. I guess I would just need to know more information about the=20 conference. =2D -Chris =2D --=20 Christopher TenHarmsel, KDE Development and Promotion Public Key on www.keyserver.net When taxes are due, Americans tend to feel quite bled-white and blue. =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+wmuxX4RAkQTBjgURAtrbAJ0Wr8lZVT50lxvQeseIVY+DoCDVbQCeMCuZ uaWdm97rnedxhOyPfddqjWY=3D =3DDOzz =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Wed May 14 18:19:35 2003 Received: (qmail 26791 invoked by uid 1055); 14 May 2003 16:19:33 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 26789 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 16:19:33 -0000 Received: from gate2.danka.de (HELO firewall.danka.de) (62.154.236.58) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 16:19:31 -0000 Received: from [10.160.32.5] (helo=mailgw.danka.de) by firewall.danka.de with esmtp (Exim 6.66 #1) id 19Fyy3-00016b-00 for novehrady@kde.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 18:18:59 +0200 Received: from danka.de ([10.160.51.60]) by mailgw.danka.de (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HEVXNS00.0RO; Wed, 14 May 2003 18:26:16 +0200 Message-ID: <3EC26BF5.9000708@danka.de> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 18:16:53 +0200 From: "Kurt Pfeifle" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021204 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: novehrady@kde.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.71.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanner: exiscan *19Fyy3-00016b-00*p5zQIGoMNhE* on Astaro Security Linux X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-28.7 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: CFP draft 2 X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 16:19:33 -0000 Harri Porten wrote: > On Wed, 14 May 2003, Kurt Pfeifle wrote: > > >>>Abstract submission deadline: >>>May 15, 2003 >> >>Are you serious? > > > Read the OPEN section of my mail. Sorry, my fault. Now I did... ;-) > Harri. > From nobody Wed May 14 18:20:27 2003 Received: (qmail 27076 invoked by uid 1055); 14 May 2003 16:20:26 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 27074 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 16:20:26 -0000 Received: from ip-213157009137.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.9.137) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 16:20:26 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23])h4EEJam05296; Wed, 14 May 2003 16:19:36 +0200 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: Milos Prudek , novehrady@kde.org Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 17:22:26 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200305141327.24781.eva@kde.org> <3EC267E9.8090204@tiscali.cz> In-Reply-To: <3EC267E9.8090204@tiscali.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305141722.28433.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-37.1 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, UPPERCASE_25_50,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: registration data X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 16:20:27 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 14 May 2003 17:59, Milos Prudek wrote: > Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi, > > > > attached you'll find a list of data for the webregistration. Does the > > team for the conference part need any additional data? What about the > > workshop organisation? (Who's doing this btw?) > > Anything else I forgot? > > Should I register my presentation by email or wait for a web based > registration? Please wait for the web based registration. Then we have it all in the=20 database :-) Thanks, eva =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+wl8zTaAgihPikKQRAp6eAJ9tO0210BEX7Ehy0HYuUok8/liEaACglXAa Htwph+xgXVJT+aNN7m8qDiI=3D =3DZXhY =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Wed May 14 19:49:18 2003 Received: (qmail 21855 invoked by uid 1055); 14 May 2003 17:49:17 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 21852 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 17:49:17 -0000 Received: from ip-213157009137.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.9.137) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 17:49:17 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23])h4EFmSm05581 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 17:48:28 +0200 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 18:51:19 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305141851.20637.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.0 required=5.5 tests=PGP_SIGNATURE,UPPERCASE_25_50,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: this list... X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 17:49:17 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am actually wondering how this list is configured, I cannot find it on=20 mail.kde.org. Who is subscribed? Who is reading the mails? Are there=20 archives? Greetings, eva =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+wnQHTaAgihPikKQRAkKCAJ9ym9Ep5cguikcgwYNy79EeAmvUCgCfem49 7Iumw9677RZw5FrP7oTTSxE=3D =3DlHAc =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Wed May 14 20:15:58 2003 Received: (qmail 2607 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 18:15:55 -0000 Received: from natsmtp00.webmailer.de (HELO post.webmailer.de) (192.67.198.74) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 18:15:55 -0000 Received: from kcshilb.schmidt (pD953C637.dip.t-dialin.net [217.83.198.55]) by post.webmailer.de (8.12.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id h4EIFoqU027158; Wed, 14 May 2003 20:15:50 +0200 (MEST) From: Gunnar Schmi Dt To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 20:14:37 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305142014.46498.gunnar@schmi-dt.de> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.4 required=5.5 tests=PGP_SIGNATURE,RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, USER_AGENT_KMAIL,X_NJABL_DIALUP version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) cc: kde-accessibility@mail.kde.org Subject: Talk about accessibility X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 18:15:56 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I would like to give a talk about the KDE Accessibility Project on the=20 conference in Nov=E9 Hrady. This talk will cover both a small description of the applications in the=20 kdeaccessibility CVS module (KMag, KMouseTool, KMouth and possibly kttsd in= =20 the near future) and an architecture for providing some AT-SPI (Assistive=20 Technology Service Provider Interface) infrastructure for KDE. Maybe it is= =20 even possible to start coding for the the infrastructure at Nov=E9 Hrady. Regards, Gunnar Schmi Dt =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+woeUsxZ93p+gHn4RAqzqAJ0b05cFpAWFFq9SgRGxBferfBO2PQCg8rd6 4IUnKtNLSL1P3V/oxCwjTPA=3D =3DrXVB =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Wed May 14 21:11:07 2003 Received: (qmail 13037 invoked by uid 1055); 14 May 2003 18:57:25 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 13035 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 18:57:24 -0000 Received: from mail.zoper.com (198.78.65.35) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 18:57:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 31494 invoked by uid 89); 14 May 2003 18:57:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pooh) (mark@hubcapconsulting.com@140.186.103.172) by 0 with SMTP; 14 May 2003 18:57:06 -0000 From: Mark Bucciarelli Organization: Hubcap Consulting To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:54:33 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305141454.34524.mark@hubcapconsulting.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.5 tests=USER_AGENT version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 May 2003 21:11:06 +0200 Subject: Want to Help X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 18:57:25 -0000 Hi Eva and company, I would like to help with the KDE developers conference. Something that interests me is looking for sponsors. I would be willing to try and figure out who is using KDE in the Northeast, and contact them re: sponsorship. Would this be useful? I sent an email this morning to Ian and Ben Meyer asking if they are interested in organizing a get together here in the northeast at the same time. It would be cool to use VNC and VOIP to be able to listen to the presentations. Also, as a beginning KDE hacker, it would be very instructive to watch how an experienced KDE hacker programs. Finally, I would be willing to collect email addresses by some deadline to help distribute press releases during or after the conference. From my experience at Peregrine Systems, big companies often use a conference as an opportunity to release new stuff to the press. These are my ideas. Of course, if there are things you need help with that are more critical, let me know. -- Mark Bucciarelli, www.hubcapconsulting.com He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine receives light without darkening me. -- Thomas Jefferson From nobody Wed May 14 23:00:33 2003 Received: (qmail 30102 invoked by uid 1055); 14 May 2003 21:00:32 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 30099 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 21:00:32 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 21:00:31 -0000 Received: (from localhost user: 'porten', uid#530) by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 14 May 2003 23:00:26 +0200 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 23:00:26 +0200 (CEST) Sender: Harri Porten From: Harri Porten X-Sender: porten@trolltech.com To: novehrady@kde.org In-Reply-To: <200305141851.20637.eva@kde.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-25.3 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: this list... X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 21:00:32 -0000 On Wed, 14 May 2003, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > I am actually wondering how this list is configured, I cannot find it on > mail.kde.org. Who is subscribed? Who is reading the mails? Are there > archives? It may not be listed but everthing is there: http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady The subscriber list is not public. Harri. From nobody Thu May 15 00:14:26 2003 Received: (qmail 6047 invoked by uid 1055); 14 May 2003 21:36:03 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 6035 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 21:36:02 -0000 Received: from mailbox.openface.ca (216.46.1.2) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 21:35:59 -0000 Received: from abnormal.openface.ca (IDENT:root@abnormal.openface.ca [216.46.1.19]) by mailbox.openface.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4ELZvZj000644 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 17:35:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from navindra-cs@localhost) by abnormal.openface.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h4ELZujL000734; Wed, 14 May 2003 17:35:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20030514173555.A714@cs.mcgill.ca> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 17:35:55 -0400 From: Navindra Umanee To: novehrady@kde.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.5 tests=none version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 15 May 2003 00:14:25 +0200 Subject: D-BUS vs DCOP X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 21:36:03 -0000 Hi, I'm not on the list, so sorry if I'm repeating something... Please make sure you guys discuss D-BUS vs DCOP, whether it will be a suitable replacement and all that stuff. http://www.freedesktop.org/software/dbus/ So put it on the agenda! :-) Btw, I find it extremely surprising that the above webpage does not have a single mention nor link nor credit to DCOP... I thought D-BUS was largely inspired and based on the DCOP design. Cheers, Navin. From nobody Thu May 15 00:14:27 2003 Received: (qmail 13692 invoked by uid 1055); 14 May 2003 21:59:02 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-n7y@kde.org Received: (qmail 13690 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 21:59:01 -0000 Received: from trinity.fluff.org (194.153.168.225) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 14 May 2003 21:59:01 -0000 Received: from rich by trinity.fluff.org with local (Exim 3.35) id 19G4H6-0007fs-00 for n7y@kde.org ; Wed, 14 May 2003 22:59:00 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 22:59:00 +0100 To: n7y@kde.org Message-ID: <20030514215900.GA29494@trinity.fluff.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i From: Richard Moore X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.4 required=5.5 tests=USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 15 May 2003 00:14:25 +0200 Subject: Talk Proposal: Accessing the internals of QObjects X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 21:59:02 -0000 KJSEmbed and the DCOP-QObject proxy do. Ultimately it would be possible to create a library that conceals this sort of use of non-public APIs so that we only do this sort of thing in a single place. I'm not on this ML at the moment, so please cc me on any discussion. Cheers Rich. From nobody Thu May 15 12:16:28 2003 Received: (qmail 1965 invoked by uid 1055); 15 May 2003 10:16:27 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 1963 invoked from network); 15 May 2003 10:16:27 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 15 May 2003 10:16:27 -0000 Received: (from localhost user: 'porten', uid#530) by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:16:01 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:16:01 +0200 (CEST) Sender: Harri Porten From: Harri Porten X-Sender: porten@trolltech.com To: novehrady@kde.org In-Reply-To: <20030514173555.A714@cs.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-25.3 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) cc: Navindra Umanee Subject: Re: D-BUS vs DCOP X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 10:16:28 -0000 On Wed, 14 May 2003, Navindra Umanee wrote: > Please make sure you guys discuss D-BUS vs DCOP, whether it will be a > suitable replacement and all that stuff. > > http://www.freedesktop.org/software/dbus/ > > So put it on the agenda! :-) Do you volunteer to find a capable speaker for this topic ? I can only think of one person here :) Might not be a bad idea to invite Havoc no matter what. > Btw, I find it extremely surprising that the above webpage does not > have a single mention nor link nor credit to DCOP... I thought D-BUS > was largely inspired and based on the DCOP design. It inspired by DCOP but isn't really based on its design. That work still has to be done. Besides, DCOP documentation is part of the D-BUS package so one can hardly say that the relation is denied. Harri. From nobody Thu May 15 12:24:55 2003 Received: (qmail 4363 invoked by uid 1055); 15 May 2003 10:24:54 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 4361 invoked from network); 15 May 2003 10:24:54 -0000 Received: from mailbox.openface.ca (216.46.1.2) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 15 May 2003 10:24:53 -0000 Received: from abnormal.openface.ca (IDENT:root@abnormal.openface.ca [216.46.1.19]) by mailbox.openface.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4FAOoZj013511; Thu, 15 May 2003 06:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from navindra-cs@localhost) by abnormal.openface.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h4FAOomi002257; Thu, 15 May 2003 06:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20030515062441.A2250@cs.mcgill.ca> Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 06:24:41 -0400 From: Navindra Umanee To: Harri Porten , novehrady@kde.org References: <20030514173555.A714@cs.mcgill.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Harri Porten on Thu, May 15, 2003 at 12:16:01PM +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-26.1 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: D-BUS vs DCOP X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 10:24:54 -0000 Harri Porten wrote: > Do you volunteer to find a capable speaker for this topic ? I can only Not really. :) > think of one person here :) Might not be a bad idea to invite Havoc no > matter what. Btw, if you do grab Havoc, please do try to convince him it's a good idea for Red Hat to install kdelibs/kdebase by default. We could offer to make some noise about it... joint PR... dot item, etc in return. Cheers, Navin. From nobody Thu May 15 14:54:19 2003 Received: (qmail 17700 invoked by uid 1055); 15 May 2003 12:54:17 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 17698 invoked from network); 15 May 2003 12:54:17 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 15 May 2003 12:54:14 -0000 Received: (from localhost user: 'porten', uid#530) by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 15 May 2003 14:54:02 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 14:54:02 +0200 (CEST) Sender: Harri Porten From: Harri Porten To: novehrady@kde.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-397395163-1093613390-1053003241=:28350" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.5 tests=HAS_CONTENT_ID,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) cc: ettrich@greentech.cz Subject: CFP draft 3 X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:54:17 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---397395163-1093613390-1053003241=:28350 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Attached is another draft of the Call for Papers. Changes: - the cited dates include a day for tutorials(?), i.e. 23-25. A following hacking session is mentioned. Is the 31st the right final date ? - inserted a URL to the future web site (not online, yet) - completed the list of sponsors - shifted all deadlines by 2 weeks Open issue: - are we willing to guarantee full lodging cost for speakers ? KDE e.V. board please decide. 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---397395163-1093613390-1053003241=:28350-- From nobody Thu May 15 15:30:58 2003 Received: (qmail 3300 invoked by uid 1055); 15 May 2003 13:30:57 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 3296 invoked from network); 15 May 2003 13:30:57 -0000 Received: from port75.ds1-es.adsl.cybercity.dk (HELO catatonia.blackie.dk) (212.242.120.206) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 15 May 2003 13:30:56 -0000 Received: by catatonia.blackie.dk (Postfix, from userid 30) id 5E5B7AEA4B; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:30:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from p5081f7b1.dip.t-dialin.net ( [p5081f7b1.dip.t-dialin.net]) internal.klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se with HTTP; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:30:29 +0200 Message-ID: <1053005429.3ec39675451fb@internal.klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:30:29 +0200 From: Matthias Kalle Dalheimer To: novehrady@kde.org, Harri Porten References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-21.0 required=5.5 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_IMP version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) cc: ettrich@greentech.cz Subject: Re: CFP draft 3 X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:30:57 -0000 Quoting Harri Porten : > Attached is another draft of the Call for Papers. > > Changes: > - the cited dates include a day for tutorials(?), i.e. 23-25. A > following hacking session is mentioned. Is the 31st the right final date ? > > - inserted a URL to the future web site (not online, yet) > > - completed the list of sponsors > > - shifted all deadlines by 2 weeks > > Open issue: > > - are we willing to guarantee full lodging cost for speakers ? KDE e.V. > board please decide. That's touchy. But in general I would much rather pay (parts of) the speakers' travel costs than their lodging, since they have to eat anyway, no matter whether they are in Nove Hrady or somewhere else. But the travel costs are directly related to going to the conference and giving a talk. Kalle -- Matthias Kalle Dalheimer President & CEO Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB Platform-independent software solutions From nobody Thu May 15 17:51:27 2003 Received: (qmail 14452 invoked from network); 15 May 2003 15:51:24 -0000 Received: from ip-213157026180.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.26.180) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 15 May 2003 15:51:22 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23])h4FDnvm09833; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:49:58 +0200 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: Christopher TenHarmsel , novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:52:46 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200305141348.41583.eva@kde.org> <200305141215.47745.tenharmsel@staticmethod.net> In-Reply-To: <200305141215.47745.tenharmsel@staticmethod.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305151652.47260.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-38.8 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: [kde-promo] [nove hrady] Help wanted X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:51:25 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 14 May 2003 18:15, Christopher TenHarmsel wrote: > On Wednesday 14 May 2003 07:48, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > as you probably all now, there will be a large KDE Conference in Nove > > Hrady in August this year (http://dot.kde.org/1051497356/). For the > > preperations we need a lot of hands to help so that it will be a > > successful meeting. Therefore volunteers are needed: > > I heard there was some confusion about who's actually attending this > conference, has this been cleared up at all. I had thought about flying > out from the US to try and go, but then heard that it was by invite only, > then I heard that it wasn't, so I'm fairly confused. This conference is open to all KDE contributors and those who want to becom= e.=20 We have 150 places, therefore we hope that there won't be a space problem. > > > - We need "journalists", who follow the preperations and the conference > > itself and write little stories for the dot and for the nove hrady info > > pages - We need a team who prepares everything to know at events.kde.org > > (date, arrival, prices, touristic things, etc.) > > - We need people who help to gather more sponsors and prepare letters to > > send to possible sponsors. > > - We need people who take care of the travel organisation (who is > > traveling from where and when, can routes be joined at a lower price, > > etc.). In Europe we want to hire one or more busses. Data will be > > gathered from a webregistration. > > I'm interested in helping out in any way I can. If I had some more info, > I'd be more than happy to try and get sponsors, or prepare letters for > sponsors. I'm also trying to get some work done on the events.kde.org > website (Eva, did you get my email?) and would be happy to coordinate > information being put up there. I guess I would just need to know more > information about the conference. Great! Welcome to the team! Please subscribe to http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady We can=20 discuss further things there. Greetings, eva > > -Chris =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+w6m+TaAgihPikKQRAhnOAJ9oOsyKZLWHxDfVqnbnt9U2PNFWlwCfcKH1 WvULcj6aALdW5uN8srset4w=3D =3D38my =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Thu May 15 18:27:31 2003 Received: (qmail 26330 invoked by uid 1055); 15 May 2003 16:27:23 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 26257 invoked from network); 15 May 2003 16:27:18 -0000 Received: from ip-213157026180.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.26.180) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 15 May 2003 16:27:16 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23])h4FEQRm09946 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:26:27 +0200 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 17:29:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <1053005429.3ec39675451fb@internal.klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> In-Reply-To: <1053005429.3ec39675451fb@internal.klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305151729.16395.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-38.8 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: CFP draft 3 X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:27:30 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 15 May 2003 15:30, Matthias Kalle Dalheimer wrote: > Quoting Harri Porten : > > Attached is another draft of the Call for Papers. > > > > Changes: > > - the cited dates include a day for tutorials(?), i.e. 23-25. A > > following hacking session is mentioned. Is the 31st the right final date > > ? > > > > - inserted a URL to the future web site (not online, yet) > > > > - completed the list of sponsors > > > > - shifted all deadlines by 2 weeks > > > > Open issue: > > > > - are we willing to guarantee full lodging cost for speakers ? KDE e.V. > > board please decide. > > That's touchy. But in general I would much rather pay (parts of) the > speakers' travel costs than their lodging, since they have to eat anyway, > no matter whether they are in Nove Hrady or somewhere else. But the travel > costs are directly related to going to the conference and giving a talk. The more people the better. I agree. eva > > Kalle -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+w7JLTaAgihPikKQRAoNPAJ0b56DpjKtgCs3qjsKvhVn6jOSNqACfTmee lUc6wmZeoXvwMNKcdx4L85k= =t0lH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Thu May 15 18:32:35 2003 Received: (qmail 28484 invoked by uid 1055); 15 May 2003 16:32:29 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 28427 invoked from network); 15 May 2003 16:32:26 -0000 Received: from ip-213157026180.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.26.180) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 15 May 2003 16:32:25 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23])h4FEVZm09986 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:31:36 +0200 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 17:34:23 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305151734.24995.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-38.8 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: CFP draft 3 X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:32:34 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 15 May 2003 14:54, Harri Porten wrote: > Attached is another draft of the Call for Papers. > > Changes: > - the cited dates include a day for tutorials(?), i.e. 23-25. A > following hacking session is mentioned. Is the 31st the right final date ? I hope that KDE e.V. members don't forget, that we already start the 22th..= =2E=20 The final date is 30th so that departure can be scheduled the 31th. > > - inserted a URL to the future web site (not online, yet) Isn't it better to use an url at events.kde.org?=20 I suggest http://events.kde.org/info/kastle/ > > - completed the list of sponsors where is the list of sponsors? > > - shifted all deadlines by 2 weeks > > Open issue: > > - are we willing to guarantee full lodging cost for speakers ? KDE e.V. > board please decide. who wants to prepare a form for bursary applications? Greetings, eva =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+w7OATaAgihPikKQRAsIbAJ9rFl5SR01QDy8/QvQo11wUq1l90QCeMVu+ wKaHGmW/HI3ErZHBJZg2tjs=3D =3DQ/SF =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Thu May 15 20:28:57 2003 Received: (qmail 9568 invoked by uid 1055); 15 May 2003 18:28:55 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 9565 invoked from network); 15 May 2003 18:28:55 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 15 May 2003 18:28:53 -0000 Received: (from localhost user: 'porten', uid#530) by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 15 May 2003 20:28:37 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 20:28:37 +0200 (CEST) Sender: Harri Porten From: Harri Porten X-Sender: porten@trolltech.com To: novehrady@kde.org In-Reply-To: <200305151734.24995.eva@kde.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-25.9 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: CFP draft 3 X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 18:28:56 -0000 On Thu, 15 May 2003, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > The final date is 30th so that departure can be scheduled the 31th. OK. Will fix that. > > - inserted a URL to the future web site (not online, yet) > > Isn't it better to use an url at events.kde.org? > I suggest http://events.kde.org/info/kastle/ I wouldn't mind. But we are mainly talking about the web form for applications. As it's they guys in Czechia setting this up at least that part will be on their server. > > - completed the list of sponsors > > where is the list of sponsors? Might have been imprecise. I wasn't referring to external sponsors but the universities providing the location and equipment. See the Financial Compensation section. Once we have money donors they should be listed elsewhere as well, of course. Harri. From nobody Thu May 15 20:44:14 2003 Received: (qmail 16760 invoked by uid 1055); 15 May 2003 18:44:12 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 16756 invoked from network); 15 May 2003 18:44:12 -0000 Received: from ip-213157026180.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.26.180) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 15 May 2003 18:44:09 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23])h4FGhKm10372; Thu, 15 May 2003 18:43:20 +0200 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: novehrady@kde.org, Harri Porten Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:46:09 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305151946.09626.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-38.8 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: CFP draft 3 X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 18:44:13 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 15 May 2003 20:28, Harri Porten wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 2003, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > > The final date is 30th so that departure can be scheduled the 31th. > > OK. Will fix that. > > > > - inserted a URL to the future web site (not online, yet) > > > > Isn't it better to use an url at events.kde.org? > > I suggest http://events.kde.org/info/kastle/ > > I wouldn't mind. But we are mainly talking about the web form for > applications. As it's they guys in Czechia setting this up at least that > part will be on their server. Mmh, what about adding another link for general information and news update= s=20 about kastle on events.kde.org then?=20 > > > > - completed the list of sponsors > > > > where is the list of sponsors? > > Might have been imprecise. I wasn't referring to external sponsors but the > universities providing the location and equipment. See the Financial > Compensation section. Once we have money donors they should be listed > elsewhere as well, of course. ah ok.=20 eva > > Harri. > > > _______________________________________________ > NoveHrady mailing list > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+w9JhTaAgihPikKQRAth2AJ4jh2kio2yfADMWfFtUChBCAPKifQCgkP9w pY0BaWh5RVsg6ifjhaGZkIA=3D =3DK6KM =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Fri May 16 02:33:38 2003 Received: (qmail 30719 invoked by uid 1055); 16 May 2003 00:33:36 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 30715 invoked from network); 16 May 2003 00:33:36 -0000 Received: from dsl-213-023-058-197.arcor-ip.net (HELO philemon.slackpad) (213.23.58.197) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 16 May 2003 00:33:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])h4G0X4RL022648; Fri, 16 May 2003 02:33:05 +0200 From: Scott Wheeler Organization: K Desktop Environment To: kde-ev-membership@mail.kde.org Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 02:32:59 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.9 References: <3EC10912.4090807@danka.de> In-Reply-To: <3EC10912.4090807@danka.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200305160233.03632.wheeler@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.9 required=5.5 tests=IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) cc: novehrady@kde.org Subject: Re: Potential Nove Hrady Atendees need Info! ;-) X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 00:33:36 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On a similar topic -- a lot of people that are interested in attending stil= l=20 don't know much about it. I started a thread on the conference list: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/novehrady/2003-April/000035.html =2E..which got some answers, but I'm still unclear on a bit and guessed oth= ers=20 might be too. So, from that thread it seems that all KDE contributers will be welcome. B= ut=20 this begs a couple of questions -- how will we deal with potential overflow= ? =20 If we have 400 people that buy plane / train tickets and turn away 250 of=20 them, some folks will be rather peeved. I don't predict this being the cas= e,=20 but I know some people have or will shortly buy (airplane) tickets, so this= =20 is a bit of an issue. What's the lodging situation for non-e.V. members? How separate will the conference and hacking session be? Can it be assumed= =20 that anyone who will be attending the conference is welcome in the days=20 thereafter? I've had a few people asking me these questions, for which I have no good=20 answer; I presume similar has been true for other folks on the list... Cheers, =2D -Scott =2D --=20 The three chief virtues of a programmer are: laziness, impatience and hubri= s. =2D --Larry Wall =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+xDG+Qu0ByfY5QTkRAkDnAJ4mZXFYON9ErgNPdgvbWnPY+BuscgCfaKyv WWFe95tmv7NlsQ4OIk4S1n0=3D =3DFJLp =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Fri May 16 09:33:12 2003 Received: (qmail 21296 invoked by uid 1055); 16 May 2003 07:33:10 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 21281 invoked from network); 16 May 2003 07:33:09 -0000 Received: from glia.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (130.83.28.4) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 16 May 2003 07:33:08 -0000 Received: from janeway.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (janeway [130.83.28.87]) by glia.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637BB10AC34; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:33:06 +0200 (MEST) From: Eva Brucherseifer Organization: K Desktop Environment To: kde-ev-membership@mail.kde.org, Scott Wheeler Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:33:24 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <3EC10912.4090807@danka.de> <200305160233.03632.wheeler@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200305160233.03632.wheeler@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305160933.24908.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) cc: novehrady@kde.org Subject: Re: Potential Nove Hrady Atendees need Info! ;-) X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 07:33:10 -0000 On Friday 16 May 2003 02:32, Scott Wheeler wrote: > On a similar topic -- a lot of people that are interested in attending > still don't know much about it. > > I started a thread on the conference list: > > http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/novehrady/2003-April/000035.html > > ...which got some answers, but I'm still unclear on a bit and guessed > others might be too. > > So, from that thread it seems that all KDE contributers will be welcome. > But this begs a couple of questions -- how will we deal with potential > overflow? If we have 400 people that buy plane / train tickets and turn > away 250 of them, some folks will be rather peeved. I don't predict this > being the case, but I know some people have or will shortly buy (airplane) > tickets, so this is a bit of an issue. As far as I understood, we can host 150 people, using sleeping bags up to 200. > > What's the lodging situation for non-e.V. members? There is no difference between eV and non-eV-members. Attendees have to cover the lodging costs by themselves. In case we have too many attendees, of course no eV-member will be turned away, since we need everyone for the membership meeting. > > How separate will the conference and hacking session be? Can it be assumed > that anyone who will be attending the conference is welcome in the days > thereafter? Everyone is welcome to stay during the hacking session. We only don't have many computers (20-40?). I heard some rumour about a hardware sponsor, but nothing sure yet. And of course everyone who has a laptop should bring it. I hope these answers help. Greetings, eva > > I've had a few people asking me these questions, for which I have no good > answer; I presume similar has been true for other folks on the list... > > Cheers, > > -Scott From nobody Fri May 16 15:29:47 2003 Received: (qmail 621 invoked by uid 1055); 16 May 2003 13:29:46 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 619 invoked from network); 16 May 2003 13:29:46 -0000 Received: from glia.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (130.83.28.4) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 16 May 2003 13:29:45 -0000 Received: from janeway.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (janeway [130.83.28.87]) by glia.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF9F10AC34; Fri, 16 May 2003 15:29:41 +0200 (MEST) From: Eva Brucherseifer Organization: K Desktop Environment To: novehrady@kde.org, Mark Bucciarelli Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 15:30:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200305141454.34524.mark@hubcapconsulting.com> In-Reply-To: <200305141454.34524.mark@hubcapconsulting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305161530.00882.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: Want to Help X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:29:46 -0000 Hi Mark, On Wednesday 14 May 2003 20:54, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi Eva and company, > > I would like to help with the KDE developers conference. Cool! Welcome to the team! > > Something that interests me is looking for sponsors. I would be > willing to try and figure out who is using KDE in the Northeast, and > contact them re: sponsorship. Would this be useful? Yes of course :-)) It would be a pity if any developer from oversea cannot come because we cannot help with the travel expenses. Are you already subscribed to the novehrady mailinglist? If not, please do so: http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady Kurt wrote a very good letter to a sponsor today, but in german. I'll try to translate it ASAP. Then someone needs to polish the English and we can publish some facts on events.kde.org/info/kastle BTW, I already setup some pages which should be filled ASAP. > > I sent an email this morning to Ian and Ben Meyer asking if they are > interested in organizing a get together here in the northeast at the > same time. You won't be able to come? > > It would be cool to use VNC and VOIP to be able to listen to the > presentations. Also, as a beginning KDE hacker, it would be very > instructive to watch how an experienced KDE hacker programs. hehe ;-) My collegue just finished his PhD about VOIP, I'll ask him... do you know any other experts? > > Finally, I would be willing to collect email addresses by some > deadline to help distribute press releases during or after the > conference. From my experience at Peregrine Systems, big companies > often use a conference as an opportunity to release new stuff to the > press. Yes, if we have some good writers in NoveHrady, they can visit the different workshops and write stories... > > These are my ideas. Of course, if there are things you need help with > that are more critical, let me know. ATM, the most critical is to setup a central point of information, so that we can point everybody to it. The next is, to search for sponsors (here we need the online information). Greetings, eva From nobody Fri May 16 15:51:29 2003 Received: (qmail 9186 invoked by uid 1055); 16 May 2003 13:51:27 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 9182 invoked from network); 16 May 2003 13:51:27 -0000 Received: from glia.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (130.83.28.4) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 16 May 2003 13:51:27 -0000 Received: from janeway.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (janeway [130.83.28.87]) by glia.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F85E10AC34; Fri, 16 May 2003 15:51:25 +0200 (MEST) From: Eva Brucherseifer Organization: K Desktop Environment To: novehrady@kde.org, kosicek@greentech.cz Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 15:51:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <1051714435.3eafe38340604@leaf.greentech.cz> In-Reply-To: <1051714435.3eafe38340604@leaf.greentech.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_xzOx+0PuWkRPiMU" Message-Id: <200305161551.45301.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: Social Program X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:51:28 -0000 --Boundary-00=_xzOx+0PuWkRPiMU Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Jirka, sorry for the long delay. If there are urgent things you need to know, don't hesitate to bug me... mailbombing is a good way to get me away from daily work ;-). Since there were no comments about the registration data, so I'd say we go for it. I attached the current version. I only see those open points: - Do we leave the choice of rooms to the participants? - social program (also see below) - wo we still have a training day? On Wednesday 30 April 2003 16:53, kosicek@greentech.cz wrote: > Hi Eva, > > Quoting Eva Brucherseifer : > > > What about the social program, do you want some trip to Krumlov or the > > > Budweiser Brewery? Let me know in time. > > > > This sounds like a good idea for the week after the conference. The > > conference > > itself is rather short, so maybe we should not interrupt it. How long > > does a > > > > visit to Budweiser or Krumlov take? (And what is Krumlov?) > > Both is a little more than half an hour away by car. A visit to the brewery > could be a half-a-day thing. Krumlov would need a little more time, > probably a whole day, as there is a lot to see, as Kalle already described. Then I'd say we offer both and ask people in the registration. Both should take part in the hacking week. If you know how much it costs, it would be good to add a price. > > > Besides this I'd like to suggest a social event for saturday evening > > (during > > > > the conference). Maybe some more special dinner, or barbecue if the > > wether is > > > > fine... do you think you can arrange something like that? > > No problem, I would suggest a barbecue on the castle terace, with some > local speciality foods. We have a contract with a catering company > arranging things like that for us. This sounds great! How much would that cost us for let's say 150 people? What further possiblilities do we have to socialize esp. during the conference? > > I have one additional question. As I understood, you mentioned 150 people > for the three congress days. How many people you think will stay the whole > week after the congress (coding-week)? (not exactly, only roughly..) Puh, that is difficult. I think it will be about 50, but I don't really have an idea. Greetings, eva > > Thanks and greetings > > Jirka > > > ----------------------------------------- > Academic and University Center Nove Hrady > Zamek 136 ; CZ-37333 ; Nove Hrady ; CZ > website:https://www.greentech.cz > _______________________________________________ > NoveHrady mailing list > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady --Boundary-00=_xzOx+0PuWkRPiMU Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2"; name="registration_data.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="registration_data.txt" Name Street ZIP/City Country Email Phone Mobile Phone KDE Project IRC Nickname PGP/GPG-Finterprint participance: - KDE e.V. meeting - Conference - Training - Workshops/Free Coding Arrival Date/Time Arriving from Arriving to Departure Date/Time Departing from Departing to Rooms Participance in social Program - Budweis - Krumlov Hardware you bring Workshop Proposal Comment --Boundary-00=_xzOx+0PuWkRPiMU-- From nobody Fri May 16 15:55:32 2003 Received: (qmail 10597 invoked by uid 1055); 16 May 2003 13:55:30 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 10595 invoked from network); 16 May 2003 13:55:30 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 16 May 2003 13:55:22 -0000 Received: (from localhost user: 'porten', uid#530) by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 16 May 2003 15:55:01 +0200 Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 15:55:01 +0200 (CEST) Sender: Harri Porten From: Harri Porten X-Sender: porten@trolltech.com To: novehrady@kde.org In-Reply-To: <1053005429.3ec39675451fb@internal.klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-397395163-1350293636-1053092011=:9038" Content-ID: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.5 tests=HAS_CONTENT_ID,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: CFP draft 3 X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:55:30 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---397395163-1350293636-1053092011=:9038 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: On Thu, 15 May 2003, Matthias Kalle Dalheimer wrote: > > - are we willing to guarantee full lodging cost for speakers ? KDE e.V. > > board please decide. > > That's touchy. But in general I would much rather pay (parts of) the speakers' > travel costs than their lodging, since they have to eat anyway, no matter > whether they are in Nove Hrady or somewhere else. But the travel costs are > directly related to going to the conference and giving a talk. OK. That makes sense. I've attach the latest draft that now includes tutorials. Kalle, do you want to send it out (please fix the accents again;) or should I ? 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hits=0.0 required=5.5 tests=USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Question about central point of information X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 14:13:10 -0000 Hi, today I started a central place of information on events.kde.org/info/kastle and then I noticed, that there is basically the same at http://www.greentech.cz/kastle Actually I don't care which site to be used, but we should try to avoid double work. Therefore I have some questions: - Jirka, do you administrate http://www.greentech.cz/kastle? Who else has access? Can we easily change content? - How long will this site be accessible? Can you also provide bandwidth after the conference? Also we have some volunteers who want to help to setup the webpages. Here are some more topics I see: - who should come - how many people can we host, how many do we expect - prices - travel - sharing travel (like the shuttle Prag-NoveHrady, the EU-bus) - lodging, meals - social program, touristics - how to become a sponsor - why do we need sponsors during and after the conference: - live videos? webcams? - stories/news - pictures - workshop results So, where do we host this? Greetings, eva From nobody Fri May 16 17:38:48 2003 Received: (qmail 98 invoked by uid 1055); 16 May 2003 15:38:47 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 94 invoked from network); 16 May 2003 15:38:46 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 16 May 2003 15:38:44 -0000 Received: from jeunehomme.troll.no ([80.232.37.158]:34443 "EHLO jeunehomme.troll.no" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by trolltech.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 16 May 2003 17:38:32 +0200 From: Matthias Ettrich Organization: Trolltech To: novehrady@kde.org, Scott Wheeler Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 18:36:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.7 References: <3EC10912.4090807@danka.de> <200305160233.03632.wheeler@kde.org> <200305160933.24908.eva@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200305160933.24908.eva@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305161836.01317.ettrich@trolltech.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: Potential Nove Hrady Atendees need Info! ;-) X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 15:38:47 -0000 On Friday 16 May 2003 09:33, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: [...] > > As far as I understood, we can host 150 people, using sleeping bags up to > 200. yep. [snip] > > Everyone is welcome to stay during the hacking session. We only don't have > many computers (20-40?). I heard some rumour about a hardware sponsor, but > nothing sure yet. And of course everyone who has a laptop should bring it. >From the last numbers I got it seems they can arrange up to 50 computers / seats for the time after the conference. This is plenty. I suggest that we make it possible in the registration form to apply for the hacking session, with a small rationale why. In the unexpected case that we have too many applications, we decide based on the rationale. The idea of this session is to provide teams the possibility to spend a few days together and get stuff done. Matthias From nobody Sat May 17 19:17:31 2003 Received: (qmail 9492 invoked by uid 1055); 17 May 2003 17:17:30 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 9479 invoked from network); 17 May 2003 17:17:30 -0000 Received: from expresso.netweaver.net (217.151.99.17) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 17 May 2003 17:17:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 24082 invoked from network); 17 May 2003 17:09:49 -0000 Received: from 1cust203.tnt5.lnd1.gbr.da.uu.net (chris@chrishowells.co.uk@62.188.19.203) by 0 with SMTP; 17 May 2003 17:09:49 -0000 From: Chris Howells Organization: K Desktop Environment To: kde-ev-membership@mail.kde.org Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 18:12:02 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.9 References: <3EC10912.4090807@danka.de> <200305160233.03632.wheeler@kde.org> <200305160933.24908.eva@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200305160933.24908.eva@kde.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5863 DF82 C34D 7291 CC63 CA1B 17C2 2ED7 3379 5A2C MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200305171812.04123.howells@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) cc: novehrady@kde.org Subject: Re: Potential Nove Hrady Atendees need Info! ;-) X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 17:17:31 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Friday 16 May 2003 08:33, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > In case we have too many attendees, of course no eV-member will be turned > away, since we need everyone for the membership meeting. The possibility that some people may be turned away sounds fairly terrrible= to=20 me. Why not allocate a limited number of places on a first-come first-serve= d=20 basis? =2D --=20 Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris@chrishowells.co.uk, howells@kde.org Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP ID: 33795A2C KDE Project Developer: http://www.kde.org =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+xm1kF8Iu1zN5WiwRAoykAJ9r1f5yWaspDfFHidb+jp7TqFCYjwCgigr2 DjEYHdFSS8Sk/6u4T4u4CGs=3D =3DmbvO =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Sun May 18 23:40:31 2003 Received: (qmail 2629 invoked by uid 1055); 18 May 2003 21:40:29 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 2626 invoked from network); 18 May 2003 21:40:29 -0000 Received: from ip-213157026180.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.26.180) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 18 May 2003 21:40:28 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23])h4IJdIm24573; Sun, 18 May 2003 21:39:19 +0200 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: kosicek@greentech.cz, novehrady@kde.org Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 22:42:38 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <1053111772.3ec535dc899f1@leaf.greentech.cz> In-Reply-To: <1053111772.3ec535dc899f1@leaf.greentech.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305182242.41892.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: Social Program X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 21:40:30 -0000 On Friday 16 May 2003 21:02, kosicek@greentech.cz wrote: > Quoting Eva Brucherseifer : > > Hi Jirka, > > > > sorry for the long delay. If there are urgent things you need to know, > > don't > > > > hesitate to bug me... mailbombing is a good way to get me away from dai= ly > > work ;-). > > I'm sorry, I prepared first version pages with registration form. > page si at adress http://www.greentech.cz/kastle Great! Thanks for getting this started! Some feedback for the first version: We could add the dates to the participation part, maybe people don't rememb= er=20 exactly: KDE e.V. meeting (22.8.2003, for members) Conference (23. & 24.8.2003) Training (25.8.2003) Workshops/Free Coding (25.-30.8.2003) Can we add choices to the rooms? From your mail it's these: X castle (~5 Euro/person/day) X monastry (~8.40 Euro/person/day) X appartment in the castle (10-17 Euro/person/day) X full pension for all days (6 Euro/person/day) Same for the social event (do we have estimates for the prices: X barbecue party (saturday, ~5-10 Euro?) X Budweis (tuesday? price?) X Krumlov (thursday or friday? price?) How will I be able to view the data of registered participants? I will need= it=20 to coordinate the travel. Greetings, eva > > > Since there were no comments about the registration data, so I'd say we > > go for > > it. I attached the current version. > > > > I only see those open points: > > - Do we leave the choice of rooms to the participants? > > - social program (also see below) > > - wo we still have a training day? > > > > On Wednesday 30 April 2003 16:53, kosicek@greentech.cz wrote: > > > Hi Eva, > > > > > > Quoting Eva Brucherseifer : > > > > > What about the social program, do you want some trip to Krumlov or > > > > > the Budweiser Brewery? Let me know in time. > > > > > > > > This sounds like a good idea for the week after the conference. The > > > > conference > > > > itself is rather short, so maybe we should not interrupt it. How lo= ng > > > > does a > > > > > > > > visit to Budweiser or Krumlov take? (And what is Krumlov?) > > > > > > Both is a little more than half an hour away by car. A visit to the > > > > brewery > > > > > could be a half-a-day thing. Krumlov would need a little more time, > > > probably a whole day, as there is a lot to see, as Kalle already > > > > described. > > > > Then I'd say we offer both and ask people in the registration. Both > > should take part in the hacking week. If you know how much it costs, it > > would be good to add a price. > > > > > > Besides this I'd like to suggest a social event for saturday evening > > > > (during > > > > > > > > the conference). Maybe some more special dinner, or barbecue if the > > > > wether is > > > > > > > > fine... do you think you can arrange something like that? > > > > > > No problem, I would suggest a barbecue on the castle terace, with some > > > local speciality foods. We have a contract with a catering company > > > arranging things like that for us. > > > > This sounds great! How much would that cost us for let's say 150 people? > > What > > > > further possiblilities do we have to socialize esp. during the > > conference? > > > > > I have one additional question. As I understood, you mentioned 150 > > > people for the three congress days. How many people you think will st= ay > > > the whole week after the congress (coding-week)? (not exactly, only > > > roughly..) > > > > Puh, that is difficult. I think it will be about 50, but I don't really > > have > > > > an idea. > > > > Greetings, > > eva > > > > > Thanks and greetings > > > > > > Jirka > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Academic and University Center Nove Hrady > > > Zamek 136 ; CZ-37333 ; Nove Hrady ; CZ > > > website:https://www.greentech.cz > > > _______________________________________________ > > > NoveHrady mailing list > > > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > > > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady > > ----------------------------------------- > Academic and University Center Nove Hrady > Zamek 136 ; CZ-37333 ; Nove Hrady ; CZ > website:https://www.greentech.cz From nobody Mon May 19 09:54:32 2003 Received: (qmail 17454 invoked by uid 1055); 19 May 2003 07:54:30 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 17446 invoked from network); 19 May 2003 07:54:29 -0000 Received: from glia.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (130.83.28.4) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 19 May 2003 07:54:28 -0000 Received: from janeway.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (janeway [130.83.28.87]) by glia.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AFD10AC32; Mon, 19 May 2003 09:54:27 +0200 (MEST) From: Eva Brucherseifer Organization: K Desktop Environment To: novehrady@kde.org, kde-ev-membership@mail.kde.org Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 09:54:54 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <3EC10912.4090807@danka.de> <200305160933.24908.eva@kde.org> <200305171812.04123.howells@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200305171812.04123.howells@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305190954.54607.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: Potential Nove Hrady Atendees need Info! ;-) X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 07:54:30 -0000 On Saturday 17 May 2003 19:12, Chris Howells wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday 16 May 2003 08:33, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > > In case we have too many attendees, of course no eV-member will be turned > > away, since we need everyone for the membership meeting. > > The possibility that some people may be turned away sounds fairly terrrible > to me. Why not allocate a limited number of places on a first-come > first-served basis? Well, this is basically what I wanted to say. We need 60 places for the members of KDE e.V. and 10-20 for paying participants (sponsors) so we have 70-80 places for non-members. About 50 more can be given to people who are willing to use a sleeping bag. If less than 60 KDE e.V. members are coming (I expect about 45-50), those places will be given to the sleeping bag group. Does the conference team need any additional places for invited guests? Greetings, eva From nobody Mon May 19 23:09:44 2003 Received: (qmail 18426 invoked by uid 1055); 19 May 2003 21:09:40 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 18408 invoked from network); 19 May 2003 21:09:39 -0000 Received: from expresso.netweaver.net (217.151.99.17) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 19 May 2003 21:09:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 17637 invoked from network); 19 May 2003 21:01:52 -0000 Received: from 1cust56.tnt5.lnd1.gbr.da.uu.net (chris@chrishowells.co.uk@62.188.19.56) by 0 with SMTP; 19 May 2003 21:01:52 -0000 From: Chris Howells Organization: K Desktop Environment To: kde-ev-membership@mail.kde.org, eva@kde.org, novehrady@kde.org Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 18:01:02 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.9 References: <3EC10912.4090807@danka.de> <200305171812.04123.howells@kde.org> <200305190954.54607.eva@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200305190954.54607.eva@kde.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5863 DF82 C34D 7291 CC63 CA1B 17C2 2ED7 3379 5A2C MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200305191801.02193.howells@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=5.5 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, PGP_SIGNATURE,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,UPPERCASE_25_50, USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: Potential Nove Hrady Atendees need Info! ;-) X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 21:09:43 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Monday 19 May 2003 08:54, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > Well, this is basically what I wanted to say. Great, thanks for the clarification Eva. =2D --=20 Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris@chrishowells.co.uk, howells@kde.org Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP ID: 33795A2C KDE/Qt/C++ Developer: http://www.kde.org =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+yQ3OF8Iu1zN5WiwRAiu0AJ0dlrBo/XW7cB2LlzBp2rFEs3RrRACgnWKt 7OY1I/dLJ5xIvhkHHRObUrc=3D =3DdJYK =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Wed May 21 14:47:38 2003 Received: (qmail 27723 invoked from network); 20 May 2003 11:02:58 -0000 Received: from host100-222.pool80180.interbusiness.it (HELO destino.local) (80.180.222.100) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 20 May 2003 11:02:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by destino.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99FC4BD07 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 13:02:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Giovanni Venturi To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 13:01:53 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305201302.00612.jumpyj@libero.it> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.9 required=5.5 tests=PGP_SIGNATURE,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 21 May 2003 01:24:21 +0200 Subject: from Italy X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 11:02:59 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'd like to partecipate to KDE's Developers Conference 2003 in Nov=E9 H= rady.=20 I come from Italy. Do I have to take the airplain or train? Where do I have= =20 to arrive? Prague? How do I arrive to Nov=E9 Hrady? The place where to slee= p=20 and eat has to be reserved? How much does it cost? What is comprised?=20 Breakfast and lanch or breakfast and dinner? Is the spoken language English= ,=20 or not? And money? Euro is not used? Is there time to visit Nov=E9 Hrady? I= 'd=20 like to have more information, a referring link. If it's not yet available= =20 could you advise me or send an email to kde-i18n-doc@mail.kde.org? Thanks for your time, Gianni =2D --=20 A KDE's Italian translator I work on "GNU/Linux 2.4.19-4GB -- SuSE Linux 8.1" =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+ygsmnT2ev4/bQKARAqjJAJ0XQRr3jzaCNznyMnilxijUdKKVXQCeKvjP dnloH5vxhrE72pMqLp/5vFE=3D =3DZ/2H =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Wed May 21 14:56:46 2003 Received: (qmail 22744 invoked by uid 1055); 21 May 2003 12:52:08 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 22734 invoked from network); 21 May 2003 12:52:07 -0000 Received: from azrael.spk.cz (194.196.134.186) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 21 May 2003 12:51:36 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (azrael [127.0.0.1]) by azrael.spk.cz (Postfix - Debian GNU/Linux) with SMTP id 12B2A346611 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 14:51:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from goblin.spk.cz (unknown [194.196.123.62])439CD346612 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 14:51:20 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?q?Luk=E1=B9=20Tinkl?= Organization: KDE desktop environment To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 14:40:13 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <200305141327.24781.eva@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200305141327.24781.eva@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305211440.13933.lukas@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.5 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: registration data X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 12:52:09 -0000 Dne st 14. kv=ECtna 2003 13:27 Eva Brucherseifer napsal(a): > Hi, > > attached you'll find a list of data for the webregistration. Does the team > for the conference part need any additional data? What about the workshop > organisation? (Who's doing this btw?) > Anything else I forgot? > > Thanks, > eva Two more checkboxes [x] I need a place in the shuttle bus (from SuSE CR --> Nov=E9 Hrady) [x] I need someone to pick me up at the airport, I feel lost :) =2E.. would be great for me :) Thanks In case there's at least 20 people willing to travel from SuSE, Prague to N= ov=E9=20 Hrady, I'll organize this shuttle bus and/or pick up people at the airport. =2D-=20 Luk=E1=B9 Tinkl (lukas@kde.org, lukas.tinkl@suse.cz) KDE developer | SuSE Labs | KOffice release manager http://czechia.kde.org From nobody Wed May 21 15:08:45 2003 Received: (qmail 8679 invoked by uid 1055); 21 May 2003 13:08:41 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 8655 invoked from network); 21 May 2003 13:08:40 -0000 Received: from azrael.spk.cz (194.196.134.186) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 21 May 2003 13:08:07 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (azrael [127.0.0.1]) by azrael.spk.cz (Postfix - Debian GNU/Linux) with SMTP id B8995346611; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:08:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from goblin.spk.cz (unknown [194.196.123.62]) by azrael.spk.cz (Postfix - Debian GNU/Linux) with ESMTP id 295D2346613; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:05:55 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?q?Luk=E1=B9=20Tinkl?= Organization: KDE desktop environment To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 14:54:51 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <200305201302.00612.jumpyj@libero.it> In-Reply-To: <200305201302.00612.jumpyj@libero.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305211454.51975.lukas@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.5 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) cc: Giovanni Venturi Subject: Re: from Italy X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 13:08:44 -0000 Dne =FAt 20. kv=ECtna 2003 13:01 Giovanni Venturi napsal(a): > Hi, I'd like to partecipate to KDE's Developers Conference 2003 in Nov=E9 > Hrady. I come from Italy. Do I have to take the airplain or train? Where = do > I have to arrive? Prague? How do I arrive to Nov=E9 Hrady? The place wher= e to > sleep and eat has to be reserved? How much does it cost? What is comprise= d? > Breakfast and lanch or breakfast and dinner? Is the spoken language > English, or not? And money? Euro is not used? Is there time to visit Nov= =E9 > Hrady? I'd like to have more information, a referring link. If it's not y= et > available could you advise me or send an email to > kde-i18n-doc@mail.kde.org? Thanks for your time, > Gianni OK, I'll try to answer your questions one by one, hoping that Eva puts it=20 somewhere on the info page. Transport: =2D you can take whatever means of transport you want (depends on money, ti= me or=20 comfortability you want to spend/sacrifice) =2D either you arrive directly to Nov=E9 Hrady (discouraged if you travel a= lone,=20 see my other mail) or to Prague (Praha in Czech) =2D the airport is called Praha-Ruzyn=EC (more info about flights on =20 http://www.csa.cz -- Czech airlines) Official language: =2D for the meeting: English Currency: =2D Czech crown (=E8esk=E1 koruna), symbol CZK (or K=E8); convertible from = any major=20 currency (Euros, USD, British pounds etc) in any exchange office Other questions have been already answered or will be (hopefully) put soon = on=20 that page (hmm, which one of the two?) :) =2D-=20 Luk=E1=B9 Tinkl (lukas@kde.org, lukas.tinkl@suse.cz) KDE developer | SuSE Labs | KOffice release manager http://czechia.kde.org From nobody Wed May 21 15:09:42 2003 Received: (qmail 9205 invoked by uid 1055); 21 May 2003 13:09:40 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 9185 invoked from network); 21 May 2003 13:09:39 -0000 Received: from azrael.spk.cz (194.196.134.186) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 21 May 2003 13:09:26 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (azrael [127.0.0.1]) by azrael.spk.cz (Postfix - Debian GNU/Linux) with SMTP id 8E4C1346615; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:09:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from goblin.spk.cz (unknown [194.196.123.62]) by azrael.spk.cz (Postfix - Debian GNU/Linux) with ESMTP id 4F542346611; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:09:03 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?q?Luk=E1=B9=20Tinkl?= Organization: KDE desktop environment To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 14:54:51 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <200305201302.00612.jumpyj@libero.it> In-Reply-To: <200305201302.00612.jumpyj@libero.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305211454.51975.lukas@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.5 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) cc: Giovanni Venturi Subject: Re: from Italy X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 13:09:41 -0000 Dne =FAt 20. kv=ECtna 2003 13:01 Giovanni Venturi napsal(a): > Hi, I'd like to partecipate to KDE's Developers Conference 2003 in Nov=E9 > Hrady. I come from Italy. Do I have to take the airplain or train? Where = do > I have to arrive? Prague? How do I arrive to Nov=E9 Hrady? The place wher= e to > sleep and eat has to be reserved? How much does it cost? What is comprise= d? > Breakfast and lanch or breakfast and dinner? Is the spoken language > English, or not? And money? Euro is not used? Is there time to visit Nov= =E9 > Hrady? I'd like to have more information, a referring link. If it's not y= et > available could you advise me or send an email to > kde-i18n-doc@mail.kde.org? Thanks for your time, > Gianni OK, I'll try to answer your questions one by one, hoping that Eva puts it=20 somewhere on the info page. Transport: =2D you can take whatever means of transport you want (depends on money, ti= me or=20 comfortability you want to spend/sacrifice) =2D either you arrive directly to Nov=E9 Hrady (discouraged if you travel a= lone,=20 see my other mail) or to Prague (Praha in Czech) =2D the airport is called Praha-Ruzyn=EC (more info about flights on =20 http://www.csa.cz -- Czech airlines) Official language: =2D for the meeting: English Currency: =2D Czech crown (=E8esk=E1 koruna), symbol CZK (or K=E8); convertible from = any major=20 currency (Euros, USD, British pounds etc) in any exchange office Other questions have been already answered or will be (hopefully) put soon = on=20 that page (hmm, which one of the two?) :) =2D-=20 Luk=E1=B9 Tinkl (lukas@kde.org, lukas.tinkl@suse.cz) KDE developer | SuSE Labs | KOffice release manager http://czechia.kde.org From nobody Wed May 21 17:36:53 2003 Received: (qmail 31142 invoked by uid 1055); 21 May 2003 15:32:58 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 29451 invoked from network); 21 May 2003 15:30:20 -0000 Received: from lupinella.troll.no (80.232.37.59) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 21 May 2003 15:29:49 -0000 Received: (from localhost user: 'porten', uid#530) by trolltech.com with ESMTP id convert rfc822-to-8bit; Wed, 21 May 2003 17:25:27 +0200 Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 17:25:27 +0200 (CEST) Sender: Harri Porten From: Harri Porten X-Sender: porten@trolltech.com To: novehrady@kde.org In-Reply-To: <200305211440.13933.lukas@kde.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: registration data X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 15:36:52 -0000 On Wed, 21 May 2003, [iso-8859-2] Luká¹ Tinkl wrote: > Dne st 14. kvìtna 2003 13:27 Eva Brucherseifer napsal(a): > > Hi, > > > > attached you'll find a list of data for the webregistration. Does the team > > for the conference part need any additional data? What about the workshop > > organisation? (Who's doing this btw?) > > Anything else I forgot? I'm wondering whether the form asks for a bit too much. Since e.g. the workshop program and hacking session very much depend on who registers nobody can state his departure time in advance. How about first having an "application/pre-registration" form to collect who'd be interested to join for the different parts first ? And then - after acceptance - ask for more info. Since the KDE web pages are accessible to more of us I wonder if we should move the main page to where Eva started (http://events.kde.org/info/kastle/) and just cross-link single pages like the registration or picture galleries about the location. Harri. P.S. Two typos on the form: it should read "Registration" and "IRC Nickname". From nobody Thu May 22 16:21:17 2003 Received: (qmail 22456 invoked from network); 22 May 2003 14:21:15 -0000 Received: from sonne.rz.uni-frankfurt.de (141.2.22.242) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 22 May 2003 14:21:11 -0000 Received: from lukas.rz.uni-frankfurt.de ([141.2.22.92]) by sonne.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 19IqwM-0000KE-00 for novehrady@mail.kde.org; Thu, 22 May 2003 16:21:06 +0200 Received: from hegel.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de ([141.2.144.136] helo=Hegel) by lukas.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IqwK-00018T-00 for novehrady@mail.kde.org; Thu, 22 May 2003 16:21:04 +0200 From: "anbrand" To: Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 16:22:11 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C3207E.4C6D5E70" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.5 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONT_BIG_B,HTML_MESSAGE,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: My research about KDE X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 14:21:15 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C3207E.4C6D5E70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello KDE-Nove-Hrady-Planning-People, I have read that you are planing a KDE-meeting at Nove Hrady. I do not know if you remember me but I did ask you questions and let some of you fill out surveys at last years linuxtag. After a lot of time I have nearly finished my research. My research consists of a case study, the analysis of the survey (linuxtag) and the analysis of interviews from tink. The findings of the case study are attached to this mail. The findings of the quantitative studies could be found at http://www.uni-frankfurt.de/fb03/arbeitslehre/brand_veroeffentlichungen.htm (the working papers at http://www.uni-frankfurt.de/fb03/arbeitslehre/Auswertung%20Selbstinterviews% 20OS-community%20V0,5.pdf and http://www.uni-frankfurt.de/fb03/arbeitslehre/Auswertung%20quan%20Interviews %20OS-community%20V0,5.pdf). These working papers (the quantitative studies) are in a pre-beta Phase and I have seen that the pdf-format has omitted something at diagrams in this papers. But nevertheless I think, the findings are interesting for you. If you have questions or remarks about some findings feel free to mail me. I am also in contact with the planing group of linuxtag 2003 for a speech about these findings. I want to reflect/give back my research to your community. So my question is, if I could give a speech or workshop at your KDE-meeting at Nove Hrady (Probably the same as on the Linuxtag). Sorry, I forgot: the texts about my research are in german. I have and had no time to translate them in english. I asked my girl-friend to translate the quantitative studies but this will take some time (also they are in a pre-beta phase so translation is not worth the effort). I hope you will understand this problem. But I could hold the speech in english, so that everyone could understand it. Best wishes Andreas Brand Besides: It seems that there are some people who are interested in the research. F.e. Stephan Binner contacted me and asked for findings. *************************************************************************** Dipl. Soz. Andreas Brand Project electronic labourmarkets (PELM) / Projekt elektronische Arbeitsmärkte Johann W. v. Goethe Universität / Johann W. v. Goethe University Institut für Polytechnik und Arbeitslehre / Institute for polytechnic and laboursciences Robert-Mayer Str. 1 / FLAT: Zimmer 105 / Room 105 Postadresse / for letters: Postfach D-60054 Frankfurt / Main Tel.: +49-(0)69-798-28923; Fax: ~798-28233 Email: A.Brand@em.uni-frankfurt.de Url: http://www.uni-frankfurt.de/fb03/arbeitslehre/StartseitePELM.html *************************************************************************** ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C3207E.4C6D5E70 Content-Type: text/plain; name="Kurzes Abstract Vortrag Linuxtag 2003.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Kurzes Abstract Vortrag Linuxtag 2003.txt" Andreas Brand: Die Struktur, Eintritt, Leistungserstellung, Motivation = und Kontrolle in einem Open Source-Projekt=20 Paper f=FCr einen Vortrag auf dem Linuxtag, 10.-13. Juli Kontakt: Dipl. Soz. Andreas Brand Project electronic labourmarkets (PELM) / Projekt elektronische = Arbeitsm=E4rkte Johann W. v. Goethe Universit=E4t / Johann W. v. Goethe University Institut f=FCr Polytechnik und Arbeitslehre / Institute for polytechnic = and laboursciences Email: A.Brand@em.uni-frankfurt.de Url: http://www.uni-frankfurt.de/fb03/arbeitslehre/StartseitePELM.html Struktur:=20 Innere Struktur von KDE: Bei diesem Open Source-Gro=DFprojekt handelt es sich um eine weltweit = verteilte Gruppe von ca. 800-1000 Menschen (ca. 800 cvs-accounts ohne = den Gro=DFteil der =DCbersetzer), die vor allem aus Europa, besonders = Deutschland, kommen. Die meisten Projektbeteiligten kommen aus dem = Kerneuropa, d.h. D, F, GB, Benelux, und einige aus USA/Kanada. Es existieren aber auch regionale Cluster, wie z.B. in = N=FCrnberg/Erlangen. Die Gruppe ist recht homogen, da der gr=F6=DFte = Teil der Personen m=E4nnlich und zwischen 20 und 30 Jahren alt ist. Ein = gro=DFer Teil der Projektbeteiligten sind Studenten, ein anderer = gro=DFer Teil sind Erwerbst=E4tige. Gemeinsam ist der = =FCberw=E4ltigenden Mehrheit, da=DF sie entweder eine IT-Studium oder = IT-Ausbildung absolviert oder absolviert hat. Sch=FCler, Lehrlinge, = Arbeitslose und Erwerbst=E4tige aus anderen Bereichen bilden dagegen = eine Minderheit. Z.T. gibt es auch mitarbeitende wissenschaftlich = T=E4tige und Projektbeteiligte, die sich selbst=E4ndig gemacht haben und = Dienstleistungen um das Open Source-Projekt anbieten. Alle arbeiten freiwillig, als Hobby, an der gemeinsamen Erstellung eines = Desktops. Es gibt verschiedene T=E4tigkeitsbereiche in der Open = Source-Community, wovon die Softwareentwickler und die Dokumentierer/ = =DCbersetzer, die wichtigsten sind. Die Softwareentwickler stellen zwei = Drittel, die Dokumentierer/ =DCbersetzer ca. ein Drittel und andere = T=E4tigkeiten, wie z.B. Homepagepflege, Graphik-/Sounderstellung, nur = ca. 5 %. Die wichtigsten Werkzeuge stellen die Mailinglisten f=FCr die = Kommunikation und das Dateiablagesystem f=FCr die Produktion dar. Das = Open Source-Projekt besteht einerseits aus wenigen wichtigen und = zentralen Unterprojekten, andererseits aus vielen kleinen = Ein-Personen-Subprojekten.=20 =C4u=DFere Struktur bzw. Einbettung von KDE: Die Umwelt des Gro=DFprojekts besteht einerseits aus anderen Open = Source-Projekten, Unternehmen und Endanwendern. Es gibt Konflikte = zwischen der Umwelt des Gro=DFprojekts und dem Gro=DFprojekt selbst. = Konflikte zwischen verschiedenen Open Source-Projekten sind selten, aber = wenn sie auftreten, geht es um die normativen Grundlagen der allgemeinen = Open Source-Community, wie dem konkreten Umgang mit den Lizenzen. Die = guten Beziehungen zu anderen Open Source-Projekten werden durch die = Nutzung von Werkzeugen dieser Projekte im Gro=DFprojekt untermauert. = Weit mehr normative Konflikte um die Anwendung der Lizenz des = Gro=DFprojekts gibt es zwischen dem Gro=DFprojekt und Unternehmen, wobei = sich die Konfliktthemen um die =DCbernahme, Ver=E4nderung und Verkauf = von Quellcode sowie um die Reputation durch copyright-Vermerke drehen. Funktionsweise: Eintritt: Aufmerksam auf das Projekt wurden viele durch die Nutzung einer = Linux-Distribution, Freunde und Computer-Zeitschriftenartikel. Am Anfang = des Projekts wurde aber vor allem =FCber Mailinglisten und Usenet-Foren = geworben. Das Projekt existiert seit 1996, die meisten sind aber erst = 1999 bis 2002 eingetreten.=20 Der Eintritt in die Community erfolgt nach dem Signalisieren von = Interesse an der Mitarbeit durch Zusenden von kleinen = Quellcodever=E4nderungen. Nach mehrmaligem Zusenden erhalten die = Neulinge die Schreibberechtigung f=FCr das Dateiablagesystem. Dies = erfolgt relativ schnell, im Rahmen von 0,5 bis 1 Jahr. Der Eintritt ist dabei als ein Selbstselektionsproze=DF zu sehen, wobei = die Selbstmotivation eine gro=DFe Rolle spielt. Nach dem Eintritt = besteht die M=F6glichkeit durch Reputation in den inneren Kreis = aufzusteigen. Der innere Kreis ist eine schwer abgrenzbare Gruppe von = Personen, die sich um das Projekt verdient gemacht und deswegen = Reputation bzw. sozialen Status erlangt haben. Die Reputation besteht = aus verschiedenen Elementen, wie Seniorit=E4t/ Erfahrung, = kontinuierliche Leistung, freundlichem/kooperativen Umgang und = Sichtbarkeit. Freiwillige Austritte erfolgen durch die Hinwendung zu = anderen Aufgaben, wie Familie oder Erwerbsarbeit, Zwangsaustritte durch = das =DCbertreten von wichtigen Normen, wie z.B. das unabgesprochene = L=F6schen von Quellcode.=20 Leistungserstellung, Arbeitsverteilung und Arbeitszusammenf=FChrung Es gibt eine operative und eine strategische Entscheidungsebene, wobei = sich die operative um die konkrete Softwareerstellung und die = strategische um rechtliche Probleme und vision=E4re Ziele dreht. Die = strategische Ebene wird von den Personen aus dem inneren Kreis = vertreten, die sich Reputation erworben haben. Die Produkterstellung steht in dem Open Source-Projekt im Mittelpunkt. = Die Softwareentwicklung erfolgt normalerweise in einem Versuch und = Irrtums-Proze=DF, wobei derjenige =FCber seine Arbeit entscheidet, der = die Arbeit macht.=20 Dabei wird konkret entweder ohne anf=E4ngliche Skizzen bzw. andere = formale Hilfsmittel sofort programmiert oder sich vorher im Kopf beim = Sport ein m=F6glicher L=F6sungsweg ausgedacht. Nur eine Minderheit = entwirft vorher ein formales Modell, das sp=E4ter programmiert wird. = Damit f=E4llt die Leistungserstellung und die Arbeitsverteilung = zusammen.=20 Die Arbeitszeit ist sehr heterogen und stark gespreizt, zwischen ein = paar Minuten und 14 Stunden pro Tag, d.h. ca. 0,5 und ca. 90 Stunden pro = Woche. Im Mittel wird zwischen 2-3 Stunden pro Tag f=FCr das Projekt = aufgewendet. Es wird vor allem w=E4hrend der Freizeit gearbeitet, wenn = man von den Personen absieht, die f=FCr die Arbeit an dem Projekt von = projektnahen Unternehmen, wie Distributoren, angestellt wurden. Probleme = bestehen deswegen vor allem mit dem Partner und der Familie wegen des = zeitaufwendigen Hobbys. Die meisten gaben an, bei 1 bis 4 Projekten mitzuarbeiten. Der Median = lag dabei bei 2 Projekten. Die durchschnittliche Personenzahl sind 3-4 = Personen pro Subprojekt. Bei der maximalen Zahl liegt der Durchschnitt = eher bei 6-8 Personen. Vereinzelt k=F6nnen Subprojekte mit =FCber 10-20 = Personen auftreten. Die Personen aus dem inneren Kreis gaben an, bei = Projekten mit mehr Personen als der durchschnittlich mitzuarbeiten. = Au=DFerdem sind die Personen aus dem inneren Kreis an mehr Subprojekten = beteiligt als die anderen Projektbeteiligten. Die Arbeitsaufteilung erfolgt =FCber die freiwillige =DCbernahme von = Arbeiten, wobei ein Projektkoordinator mit Mitarbeitern sein Projekt = =FCberwacht. Bei der Arbeitsverteilung werden Absprachen zwischen den = Subprojektmitarbeitern getroffen, wobei Vertrauen zur Einhaltung der = Absprache eine wichtige Rolle bei dem Open Source-Projekt spielt. Der = Projektkoordinator ist f=FCr die Fehlerlosigkeit seines Projekts = verantwortlich. Vom Projektkoordinator wird z.T. die weitere Bearbeitung = seines Projekts erwartet. Entscheidungen =FCber die =DCbernahme von = Quellcode oder die weitere Entwicklung des Projekts werden im Konsens = gef=E4llt. Allgemein ist die Zustimmung zu einer Mitsprachem=F6glichkeit = im Subprojekt hoch. Doch gibt es eine Tendenz, da=DF Projektleiter und = Personen aus dem inneren Kreis eine eher h=F6here = Mitsprachem=F6glichkeit angeben als die Personen, die nur Beteiligt = sind. Der Projektkoordinator hat dabei keine besonderen Machtbefugnisse. Nur = Projektbeteiligte aus dem inneren Kreis genie=DFen wegen ihrer hohen = Reputation besonderen Einflu=DF und Vertrauen. Bei Konflikten wird von = diesen eine Schlichtung erwartet.=20 Die gemeinsame Arbeit wird in einem Release zusammengef=FChrt. Es gibt = eine offizielle Ver=F6ffentlichung, den Release, der nach einem = koordinierenden Releaseplan herausgegeben wird. Zust=E4ndig f=FCr die = Kontrolle dieses Plans und f=FCr die =DCbernahme von stabilen Programmen = ist der Releasekoordinator, der diesen speziellen, koordinierenden = Posten f=FCr den inneren Kreis =FCbernimmt.=20 Motivation/Gratifikation Es sind monet=E4re und nicht-monet=E4re Motivationsgr=FCnde zu = unterscheiden. Die monet=E4ren Gr=FCnde existieren, da Personen f=FCr = die Arbeit an dem Open Source-Projekt angestellt wurden (vergleichbar = Sponsoring des Projekts). Andererseits bekommen die Projektbeteiligten = Werbegeschenke und Ger=E4te auf dem neuesten technologischen Stand = ausgeliehen, was dem Sponsoring von Einzelpersonen gleichkommt. Einige = gaben an, kurzzeitig monet=E4re Gratifikationen f=FCr bestimmte Arbeiten = von projektnahen Firmen bekommen zu haben. Manche bekommen f=FCr = Arbeiten um das Projekt, wie Vortr=E4ge und Zeitschriftenartikel Geld. Die nicht-monet=E4ren Motivationsgr=FCnde =FCberwiegen aber in diesem = Projekt. Die Motivation der Projektbeteiligten setzt sich aus einer = Mischung intrinsischer und extrinsischer Elemente zusammen. Intrinsische = Motivationen sind eigene Probleme zu l=F6sen oder der Spa=DF am = Programmieren. Diese Motivationsgr=FCnde wurden von einer gro=DFen = Mehrheit als wichtig bezeichnet. Die extrinsische Motivation ist u.a. = auf die Community und ihrer kooperativen Kultur bezogen. Dazu z=E4hlen = soziale Anerkennung (Reputation) und gegenseitige Hilfe. Diese = Motivationsgr=FCnde werden auch von einer Mehrheit f=FCr wichtig = erachtet. Konflikte k=F6nnen dabei einerseits die Motivation im Projekt = durch Beleidigungen senken, aber andererseits durch das wecken von = Ehrgeiz erh=F6hen. Die zuk=FCnftigen Arbeitsplatzm=F6glichkeiten stellen = auch einen Motivationsgrund dar.=20 Die pers=F6nlichen Treffen stellen eine wichtige Motivationsquelle dar. = Die Personen, die schon l=E4nger am Projekt beteiligt sind (innerer = Kreis), haben schon andere Projektbeteiligte getroffen. Die Treffen = erfolgen vor allem auf Linux-Konferenzen, seltener auf projektbezogenen = Programmiertreffen, wie vor gro=DFen Releases, oder wegen r=E4umlicher = N=E4he.=20 Mit der Motivation h=E4ngen auch die Hobbies zusammen, da das Projekt = als zeitaufwendiges Hobby angesehen wird. Es gibt eine Fraktion die = generell technikfasziniert ist. Es k=F6nnen zwei Lager ausgemacht = werden: das erste verwendet das Programmieren zum Abschalten und das = zweite , bei dem die Personen keinen Computer mehr sehen k=F6nnen. Sonst = f=E4llt nur auf, da=DF die Hobbys stark gestreut sind. Das Lesen von = Comics, Science-Fiction- oder Fantasyb=FCcher ist und sportliche Hobbys = sind verbreitet.=20 Kontrolle Die Kontrolle der Arbeit im Open Source-Projekt l=E4uft =FCber die = Kontrolle der Qualit=E4t des Quellcodes. Dies erfolgt auf der operativen = Ebene. Die Qualit=E4t wird durch Selbstkontrolle durch gleichzeitige = Nutzung der Software, stichprobenartigen Kontrollen durch = Projektkoordinatoren und den Einbezug der Endnutzer =FCber ein = Fehlerberichtsystem erh=F6ht. Es besteht dabei ein Konflikt zwischen der = selbstbestimmten Arbeitsweise und der Endnutzerorientierung der = Community, was sich in kleineren Streitigkeiten entl=E4dt. Auf der = strategischen Ebene kontrolliert der innere Kreis die Einhaltung von = Normen bei der Produktion, Kommunikation und Nutzung der gemeinsamen = Software. Dabei ist der innere Kreis f=FCr die Einheit des = Gro=DFprojekts bzw. f=FCr das einheitliche Auftreten zust=E4ndig. Es kristallisieren sich drei Kan=E4le f=FCr St=F6rquellen heraus. = Erstens gibt es Konflikte bei der Kommunikation, d.h. auf den = Mailinglisten, aber auch beim Chatsystem. Hier sind die meisten = St=F6rungen zu finden. St=F6rungen von Projektbeteiligten werden verbal = geahndet, projekt-externe St=F6rungen werden =FCblicherweise ignoriert. = Zweitens gibt es bei der Nutzung von Quellcode hin und wieder Konflikte = und Probleme mit Trittbrettfahrern, die sich um die GPL-Lizenz drehen. = Dies wird normalerweise bei Firmen durch schlechte Publicity geahndet. = Drittens kommen St=F6rungen bei der Leistungserstellung im = Dateiablagesystem selten vor. Dies wird durch Zur=FCckspielen des = vorherigen Quellcodes und u.U. Sperrung des Zugangs sanktioniert. Es gibt bei den kommunikativen Konflikten mehrere Themenbereiche, die = =F6fters auftreten. Der erste Bereich, der am h=E4ufigsten Auftritt, ist = =FCber Konflikte bei der zuk=FCnftigen Entwicklung des Gro=DFprojekts = und der Subprojekte. Im zweiten Bereich, der seltener auftritt, kommen = folgende Konfliktgr=FCnde vor: Nichtbeachtung von Beitr=E4gen, Ablehnung = von eingereichtem Quellcode (z.B.: patches), L=F6schen oder Ver=E4ndern = von Quellcode, Qualit=E4t von programmiertem = Code/=DCbersetzung/Dokumentation und Art der Kommunikation. Ganz selten = bis nie treten die Konfliktarten Aufgabenverteilung, (verkannte) = Anerkennung f=FCr geschriebenen Quellcode, Selbst=FCbersch=E4tzung der = eigenen Leistung und Anspruchshaltung auf.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C3207E.4C6D5E70 Content-Type: text/html; name="Kurzes Abstract Vortrag Linuxtag 2003.htm" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Kurzes Abstract Vortrag Linuxtag 2003.htm" Kurzes Abstract f=FCr einen Vortrag auf dem Linuxtag, 10

Andreas Brand: Die Struktur, Eintritt, = Leistungserstellung, Motivation und Kontrolle in einem Open Source-Projekt

Paper f=FCr einen Vortrag auf dem Linuxtag, 10.-13. = Juli

 

 

Kontakt:<= /span>

 

Dipl. Soz. Andreas Brand

Project electronic labourmarkets (PELM) / Projekt elektronische = Arbeitsm=E4rkte

Johann W. v. Goethe Universit=E4t / Johann W. v. Goethe = University

Institut f=FCr Polytechnik und Arbeitslehre / Institute for polytechnic and laboursciences

Email: = A.Brand@em.uni-frankfurt.de

Url:=A0=A0 = http://www.uni-frankfurt.de/fb03/arbeitslehre/StartseitePELM.html<= /span>

 

 

Struktur: =

Innere = Struktur von KDE:

Bei diesem Open Source-Gro=DFprojekt handelt es = sich um eine weltweit verteilte Gruppe von ca. 800-1000 Menschen (ca. 800 = cvs-accounts ohne den Gro=DFteil der =DCbersetzer), die vor allem aus Europa, besonders = Deutschland, kommen. Die meisten Projektbeteiligten kommen aus dem Kerneuropa, d.h. = D, F, GB, Benelux, und einige aus USA/Kanada.

Es existieren aber auch regionale Cluster, wie z.B. = in N=FCrnberg/Erlangen. Die Gruppe ist recht homogen, da der gr=F6=DFte = Teil der Personen m=E4nnlich und zwischen 20 und 30 Jahren alt ist. Ein gro=DFer = Teil der Projektbeteiligten sind Studenten, ein anderer gro=DFer Teil sind = Erwerbst=E4tige. Gemeinsam ist der =FCberw=E4ltigenden Mehrheit, da=DF sie entweder eine = IT-Studium oder IT-Ausbildung absolviert oder absolviert hat. Sch=FCler, Lehrlinge, Arbeitslose und Erwerbst=E4tige aus anderen Bereichen bilden dagegen = eine Minderheit. Z.T. gibt es auch mitarbeitende wissenschaftlich T=E4tige = und Projektbeteiligte, die sich selbst=E4ndig gemacht haben und = Dienstleistungen um das Open Source-Projekt anbieten.

Alle arbeiten freiwillig, als Hobby, an der = gemeinsamen Erstellung eines Desktops. Es gibt verschiedene T=E4tigkeitsbereiche in = der Open Source-Community, wovon die Softwareentwickler und die Dokumentierer/ =DCbersetzer, die wichtigsten sind. Die Softwareentwickler stellen zwei = Drittel, die Dokumentierer/ =DCbersetzer ca. ein Drittel und andere = T=E4tigkeiten, wie z.B. Homepagepflege, Graphik-/Sounderstellung, nur ca. 5 %.

Die wichtigsten Werkzeuge stellen die Mailinglisten = f=FCr die Kommunikation und das Dateiablagesystem f=FCr die Produktion dar. Das = Open Source-Projekt besteht einerseits aus wenigen wichtigen und zentralen Unterprojekten, andererseits aus vielen kleinen = Ein-Personen-Subprojekten.

 

=C4u=DFere = Struktur bzw. Einbettung von KDE:

Die Umwelt des Gro=DFprojekts besteht einerseits = aus anderen Open Source-Projekten, Unternehmen und Endanwendern. Es gibt Konflikte = zwischen der Umwelt des Gro=DFprojekts und dem Gro=DFprojekt selbst. Konflikte = zwischen verschiedenen Open Source-Projekten sind selten, aber wenn sie = auftreten, geht es um die normativen Grundlagen der allgemeinen Open Source-Community, = wie dem konkreten Umgang mit den Lizenzen. Die guten Beziehungen zu anderen Open Source-Projekten werden durch die Nutzung von Werkzeugen dieser Projekte = im Gro=DFprojekt untermauert. Weit mehr normative Konflikte um die = Anwendung der Lizenz des Gro=DFprojekts gibt es zwischen dem Gro=DFprojekt und = Unternehmen, wobei sich die Konfliktthemen um die =DCbernahme, Ver=E4nderung und Verkauf = von Quellcode sowie um die Reputation durch copyright-Vermerke drehen.

 

Funktionsweise:=

Eintritt:

Aufmerksam auf das Projekt wurden viele durch die = Nutzung einer Linux-Distribution, Freunde und Computer-Zeitschriftenartikel. Am = Anfang des Projekts wurde aber vor allem =FCber Mailinglisten und Usenet-Foren = geworben. Das Projekt existiert seit 1996, die meisten sind aber erst 1999 bis = 2002 eingetreten.

Der Eintritt in die Community erfolgt nach dem = Signalisieren von Interesse an der Mitarbeit durch Zusenden von kleinen Quellcodever=E4nderungen. Nach mehrmaligem Zusenden erhalten die = Neulinge die Schreibberechtigung f=FCr das Dateiablagesystem. Dies erfolgt relativ = schnell, im Rahmen von 0,5 bis 1 Jahr.

Der Eintritt ist dabei als ein = Selbstselektionsproze=DF zu sehen, wobei die Selbstmotivation eine gro=DFe Rolle spielt. Nach dem = Eintritt besteht die M=F6glichkeit durch Reputation in den inneren Kreis = aufzusteigen. Der innere Kreis ist eine schwer abgrenzbare Gruppe von Personen, die sich = um das Projekt verdient gemacht und deswegen Reputation bzw. sozialen Status = erlangt haben. Die Reputation besteht aus verschiedenen Elementen, wie = Seniorit=E4t/ Erfahrung, kontinuierliche Leistung, freundlichem/kooperativen Umgang = und Sichtbarkeit. Freiwillige Austritte erfolgen durch die Hinwendung zu anderen Aufgaben, = wie Familie oder Erwerbsarbeit, Zwangsaustritte durch das =DCbertreten von = wichtigen Normen, wie z.B. das unabgesprochene L=F6schen von Quellcode.

 

Leistungserstellung, Arbeitsverteilung und = Arbeitszusammenf=FChrung

Es gibt eine operative und eine strategische Entscheidungsebene, wobei sich die operative um die konkrete = Softwareerstellung und die strategische um rechtliche Probleme und vision=E4re Ziele dreht. = Die strategische Ebene wird von den Personen aus dem inneren Kreis = vertreten, die sich Reputation erworben haben.

Die Produkterstellung steht in dem Open = Source-Projekt im Mittelpunkt. Die Softwareentwicklung erfolgt normalerweise in einem = Versuch und Irrtums-Proze=DF, wobei derjenige =FCber seine Arbeit entscheidet, der = die Arbeit macht.

Dabei wird konkret entweder ohne anf=E4ngliche = Skizzen bzw. andere formale Hilfsmittel sofort programmiert oder sich vorher im Kopf = beim Sport ein m=F6glicher L=F6sungsweg ausgedacht. Nur eine Minderheit = entwirft vorher ein formales Modell, das sp=E4ter programmiert wird. Damit f=E4llt die Leistungserstellung und die Arbeitsverteilung zusammen.

Die Arbeitszeit ist sehr heterogen und stark = gespreizt, zwischen ein paar Minuten und 14 Stunden pro Tag, d.h. ca. 0,5 und ca. = 90 Stunden pro Woche. Im Mittel wird zwischen 2-3 Stunden pro Tag f=FCr das = Projekt aufgewendet. Es wird vor allem w=E4hrend der Freizeit gearbeitet, wenn = man von den Personen absieht, die f=FCr die Arbeit an dem Projekt von = projektnahen Unternehmen, wie Distributoren, angestellt wurden. Probleme bestehen = deswegen vor allem mit dem Partner und der Familie wegen des zeitaufwendigen = Hobbys.

Die meisten gaben an, bei 1 bis 4 Projekten = mitzuarbeiten. Der Median lag dabei bei 2 Projekten. Die durchschnittliche Personenzahl = sind 3-4 Personen pro Subprojekt. Bei der maximalen Zahl liegt der Durchschnitt = eher bei 6-8 Personen. Vereinzelt k=F6nnen Subprojekte mit =FCber 10-20 Personen = auftreten. Die Personen aus dem inneren Kreis gaben an, bei Projekten mit mehr = Personen als der durchschnittlich mitzuarbeiten. Au=DFerdem sind die Personen aus dem = inneren Kreis an mehr Subprojekten beteiligt als die anderen = Projektbeteiligten.

 

Die Arbeitsaufteilung erfolgt =FCber die = freiwillige =DCbernahme von Arbeiten, wobei ein Projektkoordinator mit Mitarbeitern sein Projekt =FCberwacht. Bei der Arbeitsverteilung werden Absprachen zwischen den Subprojektmitarbeitern getroffen, wobei Vertrauen zur Einhaltung der = Absprache eine wichtige Rolle bei dem Open Source-Projekt spielt. Der = Projektkoordinator ist f=FCr die Fehlerlosigkeit seines Projekts verantwortlich. Vom Projektkoordinator wird z.T. die weitere Bearbeitung seines Projekts = erwartet. Entscheidungen =FCber die =DCbernahme von Quellcode oder die weitere = Entwicklung des Projekts werden im Konsens gef=E4llt. Allgemein ist die Zustimmung = zu einer Mitsprachem=F6glichkeit im Subprojekt hoch. Doch gibt es eine Tendenz, da=DF Projektleiter und = Personen aus dem inneren Kreis eine eher h=F6here Mitsprachem=F6glichkeit angeben = als die Personen, die nur Beteiligt sind.

Der Projektkoordinator hat dabei keine besonderen Machtbefugnisse. Nur Projektbeteiligte aus dem inneren Kreis genie=DFen = wegen ihrer hohen Reputation besonderen Einflu=DF und Vertrauen. Bei = Konflikten wird von diesen eine Schlichtung erwartet.

Die gemeinsame Arbeit wird in einem Release = zusammengef=FChrt. Es gibt eine offizielle Ver=F6ffentlichung, den Release, der nach einem koordinierenden Releaseplan herausgegeben wird. Zust=E4ndig f=FCr die = Kontrolle dieses Plans und f=FCr die =DCbernahme von stabilen Programmen ist der Releasekoordinator, der diesen speziellen, koordinierenden Posten f=FCr = den inneren Kreis =FCbernimmt.

 

Motivation/Gratifikation

Es sind monet=E4re und nicht-monet=E4re = Motivationsgr=FCnde zu unterscheiden. Die monet=E4ren Gr=FCnde existieren, da Personen f=FCr = die Arbeit an dem Open Source-Projekt angestellt wurden (vergleichbar Sponsoring des Projekts). Andererseits bekommen die Projektbeteiligten Werbegeschenke = und Ger=E4te auf dem neuesten technologischen Stand ausgeliehen, was dem = Sponsoring von Einzelpersonen gleichkommt. Einige gaben an, kurzzeitig monet=E4re Gratifikationen f=FCr bestimmte Arbeiten von projektnahen Firmen = bekommen zu haben. Manche bekommen f=FCr Arbeiten um das Projekt, wie Vortr=E4ge und Zeitschriftenartikel Geld.

 

Die nicht-monet=E4ren Motivationsgr=FCnde = =FCberwiegen aber in diesem Projekt. Die Motivation der Projektbeteiligten setzt sich aus = einer Mischung intrinsischer und extrinsischer Elemente zusammen. Intrinsische Motivationen sind eigene Probleme zu l=F6sen oder der Spa=DF am = Programmieren. Diese Motivationsgr=FCnde wurden von einer gro=DFen Mehrheit als wichtig bezeichnet. Die extrinsische Motivation ist u.a. auf die Community und = ihrer kooperativen Kultur bezogen. Dazu z=E4hlen soziale Anerkennung = (Reputation) und gegenseitige Hilfe. Diese Motivationsgr=FCnde werden auch von einer = Mehrheit f=FCr wichtig erachtet. Konflikte k=F6nnen dabei einerseits die Motivation im = Projekt durch Beleidigungen senken, aber andererseits durch das wecken von = Ehrgeiz erh=F6hen. Die zuk=FCnftigen Arbeitsplatzm=F6glichkeiten stellen auch = einen Motivationsgrund dar.

 

Die pers=F6nlichen Treffen stellen eine wichtige Motivationsquelle dar. Die Personen, die schon l=E4nger am Projekt = beteiligt sind (innerer Kreis), haben schon andere Projektbeteiligte getroffen. Die = Treffen erfolgen vor allem auf Linux-Konferenzen, seltener auf projektbezogenen = Programmiertreffen, wie vor gro=DFen Releases, oder wegen r=E4umlicher N=E4he.

 

Mit der Motivation h=E4ngen auch die Hobbies = zusammen, da das Projekt als zeitaufwendiges Hobby angesehen wird. Es gibt eine Fraktion die = generell technikfasziniert ist. Es k=F6nnen zwei Lager ausgemacht werden: das = erste verwendet das Programmieren zum Abschalten und das zweite , bei dem die Personen = keinen Computer mehr sehen k=F6nnen. Sonst f=E4llt nur auf, da=DF die Hobbys = stark gestreut sind. Das Lesen von Comics, Science-Fiction- oder Fantasyb=FCcher ist = und sportliche Hobbys sind verbreitet.

 

 

Kontrolle

Die Kontrolle der Arbeit im Open Source-Projekt = l=E4uft =FCber die Kontrolle der Qualit=E4t des Quellcodes. Dies erfolgt auf der = operativen Ebene. Die Qualit=E4t wird durch Selbstkontrolle durch gleichzeitige = Nutzung der Software, stichprobenartigen Kontrollen durch Projektkoordinatoren und = den Einbezug der Endnutzer =FCber ein Fehlerberichtsystem erh=F6ht. Es = besteht dabei ein Konflikt zwischen der selbstbestimmten Arbeitsweise und der Endnutzerorientierung der Community, was sich in kleineren = Streitigkeiten entl=E4dt. Auf der strategischen Ebene kontrolliert der innere Kreis die Einhaltung von Normen bei der Produktion, Kommunikation und Nutzung der gemeinsamen Software. Dabei ist der innere Kreis f=FCr die Einheit des = Gro=DFprojekts bzw. f=FCr das einheitliche Auftreten zust=E4ndig.

 

Es kristallisieren sich drei Kan=E4le f=FCr = St=F6rquellen heraus. Erstens gibt es Konflikte bei der Kommunikation, d.h. auf den = Mailinglisten, aber auch beim Chatsystem. Hier sind die meisten St=F6rungen zu finden. = St=F6rungen von Projektbeteiligten werden verbal geahndet, projekt-externe = St=F6rungen werden =FCblicherweise ignoriert. Zweitens gibt es bei der Nutzung von = Quellcode hin und wieder Konflikte und Probleme mit Trittbrettfahrern, die sich um die = GPL-Lizenz drehen. Dies wird normalerweise bei Firmen durch schlechte Publicity = geahndet. Drittens kommen St=F6rungen bei der Leistungserstellung im = Dateiablagesystem selten vor. Dies wird durch Zur=FCckspielen des vorherigen Quellcodes = und u.U. Sperrung des Zugangs sanktioniert.

 

Es gibt bei den kommunikativen Konflikten mehrere Themenbereiche, die =F6fters auftreten. Der erste Bereich, der am = h=E4ufigsten Auftritt, ist =FCber Konflikte bei der zuk=FCnftigen Entwicklung des = Gro=DFprojekts und der Subprojekte. Im zweiten Bereich, der seltener auftritt, kommen = folgende Konfliktgr=FCnde vor: Nichtbeachtung von Beitr=E4gen, Ablehnung von = eingereichtem Quellcode (z.B.: patches), L=F6schen oder Ver=E4ndern von Quellcode, = Qualit=E4t von programmiertem Code/=DCbersetzung/Dokumentation und Art der = Kommunikation. Ganz selten bis nie treten die Konfliktarten Aufgabenverteilung, (verkannte) Anerkennung f=FCr geschriebenen Quellcode, Selbst=FCbersch=E4tzung der = eigenen Leistung und Anspruchshaltung auf.

 

------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C3207E.4C6D5E70-- From nobody Sat May 24 16:43:49 2003 Received: (qmail 15000 invoked by uid 1055); 24 May 2003 14:43:47 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 14998 invoked from network); 24 May 2003 14:43:47 -0000 Received: from ip-213157026180.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.26.180) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 24 May 2003 14:43:46 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23])h4OCgim18164; Sat, 24 May 2003 14:42:44 +0200 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 15:46:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200305201302.00612.jumpyj@libero.it> <200305211454.51975.lukas@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200305211454.51975.lukas@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305241546.04683.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) cc: Christopher TenHarmsel cc: Mark Bucciarelli Subject: Re: from Italy X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 14:43:47 -0000 On Wednesday 21 May 2003 14:54, Luk=E1=B9 Tinkl wrote: > Dne =FAt 20. kv=ECtna 2003 13:01 Giovanni Venturi napsal(a): > > Hi, I'd like to partecipate to KDE's Developers Conference 2003 in Nov= =E9 > > Hrady. I come from Italy. Do I have to take the airplain or train? Where > > do I have to arrive? Prague? How do I arrive to Nov=E9 Hrady? The place > > where to sleep and eat has to be reserved? How much does it cost? What = is > > comprised? Breakfast and lanch or breakfast and dinner? Is the spoken > > language English, or not? And money? Euro is not used? Is there time to > > visit Nov=E9 Hrady? I'd like to have more information, a referring link= =2E If > > it's not yet available could you advise me or send an email to > > kde-i18n-doc@mail.kde.org? Thanks for your time, > > Gianni > > OK, I'll try to answer your questions one by one, hoping that Eva puts it > somewhere on the info page. > > Transport: > - you can take whatever means of transport you want (depends on money, ti= me > or comfortability you want to spend/sacrifice) > - either you arrive directly to Nov=E9 Hrady (discouraged if you travel > alone, see my other mail) or to Prague (Praha in Czech) > - the airport is called Praha-Ruzyn=EC (more info about flights on > http://www.csa.cz -- Czech airlines) > > Official language: > - for the meeting: English > > Currency: > - Czech crown (=E8esk=E1 koruna), symbol CZK (or K=E8); convertible from = any > major currency (Euros, USD, British pounds etc) in any exchange office > > Other questions have been already answered or will be (hopefully) put soon > on that page (hmm, which one of the two?) :) Thanks Lukas for answering this. Some volunteers recently offered their hel= p -=20 this is a good opportunity now. I won't be able to put time into an info pa= ge=20 during this weekend and next week, but time is really short already. So if= =20 some other people can write up something on events.kde.org that would be=20 fantastic. Sorry, eva=20 From nobody Sat May 24 17:41:27 2003 Received: (qmail 4371 invoked by uid 1055); 24 May 2003 15:41:25 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 4364 invoked from network); 24 May 2003 15:41:24 -0000 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (194.25.134.17) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 24 May 2003 15:41:24 -0000 Received: from fwd11.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19Jb99-0007BH-00; Sat, 24 May 2003 17:41:23 +0200 Received: from cookie.local (520059241914-0001@[80.132.191.185]) by fmrl11.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19Jb92-03bYlEC; Sat, 24 May 2003 17:41:16 +0200 From: Tim Jansen To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 17:50:41 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.9 References: <200305201302.00612.jumpyj@libero.it> <200305211454.51975.lukas@kde.org> <200305241546.04683.eva@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200305241546.04683.eva@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200305241750.41595.ml@tjansen.de> X-Sender: 520059241914-0001@t-dialin.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.8 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL,X_NJABL_DIALUP version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: from Italy X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, tim@tjansen.de List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 15:41:26 -0000 On Saturday 24 May 2003 15:46, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > Thanks Lukas for answering this. Some volunteers recently offered their > help - this is a good opportunity now. I won't be able to put time into an > info page during this weekend and next week, but time is really short > already. So if some other people can write up something on events.kde.org > that would be fantastic. BTW are there other cheap airlines that fly to prague? So far I have found only germanwings which costs 59 EUR per flight (from Cologne/Bonn). bye... From nobody Sun May 25 03:12:49 2003 Received: (qmail 2629 invoked by uid 1055); 25 May 2003 01:12:48 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 2623 invoked from network); 25 May 2003 01:12:47 -0000 Received: from mail.zoper.com (198.78.65.35) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 25 May 2003 01:12:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 17816 invoked by uid 89); 25 May 2003 01:12:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pooh) (mark@hubcapconsulting.com@140.186.102.88) by 0 with SMTP; 25 May 2003 01:12:12 -0000 From: Mark Bucciarelli Organization: Hubcap Consulting To: eva@kde.org, novehrady@kde.org Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 21:05:09 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200305201302.00612.jumpyj@libero.it> <200305211454.51975.lukas@kde.org> <200305241546.04683.eva@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200305241546.04683.eva@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305242105.09991.mark@hubcapconsulting.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) cc: Christopher TenHarmsel Subject: Re: from Italy X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 01:12:48 -0000 On Saturday 24 May 2003 9:46 am, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > Some volunteers recently offered > their help - this is a good opportunity now. Chris is graduating and moving, so I'll take a crack at it this weekend. How long does it take for a CVS update to make it to the web site? -- Mark Bucciarelli, www.hubcapconsulting.com He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine receives light without darkening me. -- Thomas Jefferson From nobody Sun May 25 22:53:35 2003 Received: (qmail 26906 invoked by uid 1055); 25 May 2003 20:53:33 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 26904 invoked from network); 25 May 2003 20:53:33 -0000 Received: from ip-213157026180.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO wlgw.me) (213.157.26.180) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 25 May 2003 20:53:32 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.23 ([192.168.2.23])h4PIqOm23861; Sun, 25 May 2003 20:52:28 +0200 From: Eva Brucherseifer To: Mark Bucciarelli , novehrady@kde.org Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 21:55:42 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200305201302.00612.jumpyj@libero.it> <200305241546.04683.eva@kde.org> <200305242105.09991.mark@hubcapconsulting.com> In-Reply-To: <200305242105.09991.mark@hubcapconsulting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305252155.52536.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.4 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) cc: Christopher TenHarmsel Subject: Re: from Italy X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 20:53:34 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, On Sunday 25 May 2003 03:05, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > On Saturday 24 May 2003 9:46 am, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > > Some volunteers recently offered > > their help - this is a good opportunity now. > > Chris is graduating and moving, so I'll take a crack at it this > weekend. > > How long does it take for a CVS update to make it to the web site? about 1-2 hours, I am updating once an hour using an anonymous account. BTW, I have some good examples for conference pages showing what kind of=20 information we need: http://evonet.dcs.napier.ac.uk/eurogp2003/ http://evonet.dcs.napier.ac.uk/eurogp2004/ I also found time to add some stuff. It would be great, if someone can corr= ect=20 my (horrible) english. We also still need to find a good criterium what to put on the greentech si= te=20 and what on events.kde.org. Personally I have the feeling, that it's easier= =20 to build up the changing and KDE-specific content on events.kde.org since w= e=20 can use CVS.=20 Therefore I suggest to provide the following on greentech: =2D - web registration form =2D - location info (about nove hrady, about accomodation and travel in gen= eral) Also I think, greentech can have more advertisement on the pages they provi= de,=20 so that people recognize that they are doing organisatorial work for us.=20 Greetings, eva =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+0R/GTaAgihPikKQRAnHLAKCDGZbIQDt3D+DpV/6mqTi6UcJsGACeLjYd GSEa3m86vq5zkK5izf+66uQ=3D =3Dryln =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Mon May 26 03:02:34 2003 Received: (qmail 14038 invoked by uid 1055); 26 May 2003 01:02:32 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 14034 invoked from network); 26 May 2003 01:02:32 -0000 Received: from mail.zoper.com (198.78.65.35) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 26 May 2003 01:02:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 30415 invoked by uid 89); 26 May 2003 01:01:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pooh) (mark@hubcapconsulting.com@140.186.103.208) by 0 with SMTP; 26 May 2003 01:01:45 -0000 From: Mark Bucciarelli Organization: Hubcap Consulting To: eva@kde.org, novehrady@kde.org Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 20:52:02 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200305201302.00612.jumpyj@libero.it> <200305242105.09991.mark@hubcapconsulting.com> <200305252155.52536.eva@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200305252155.52536.eva@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305252052.02056.mark@hubcapconsulting.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) cc: Christopher TenHarmsel Subject: Re: from Italy X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 01:02:32 -0000 On Sunday 25 May 2003 3:55 pm, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > Hi Mark, Hi Eva, > BTW, I have some good examples for conference pages showing what > kind of information we need: > > http://evonet.dcs.napier.ac.uk/eurogp2003/ > http://evonet.dcs.napier.ac.uk/eurogp2004/ > > I also found time to add some stuff. It would be great, if someone > can correct my (horrible) english. I started on this task tonight, but was severly hampered by my lack of skill with CVS. :( I was able to get as far as listing the files that you changed, and will take a look at the local versions for typos, grammer, etc. When I look at the pages, hopefully I'll be able to figure out something that will be helpful. In the meantime, if you have specific instructions and/or suggestions, do not hesitate to send them. It is a very busy week for me, as I am moving to a new house, but I should be able to pull at least one late night. It doesn't look like it would take much more than that! :) > We also still need to find a good criterium what to put on the > greentech site and what on events.kde.org. Personally I have the > feeling, that it's easier to build up the changing and KDE-specific > content on events.kde.org since we can use CVS. This makes sense to me. > Therefore I suggest to provide the following on greentech: > - web registration form > - location info (about nove hrady, about accomodation and travel in > general) > > Also I think, greentech can have more advertisement on the pages > they provide, so that people recognize that they are doing > organisatorial work for us. Sure. I don't have any strong feelings here, so go with it! BTW, how do you look at your local version? Do I need to tell Apache that phtml is PHP? Hmm, seems like it should know that already. Maybe I don't have PHP installed. > Greetings, > eva Thanks for all your hard work! Regards, Mark -- Mark Bucciarelli, www.hubcapconsulting.com He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine receives light without darkening me. -- Thomas Jefferson From nobody Mon May 26 20:14:41 2003 Received: (qmail 26586 invoked by uid 1055); 26 May 2003 18:14:40 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 26584 invoked from network); 26 May 2003 18:14:39 -0000 Received: from mail.zoper.com (198.78.65.35) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 26 May 2003 18:14:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 31211 invoked by uid 89); 26 May 2003 18:13:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pooh) (mark@hubcapconsulting.com@140.186.102.239) by 0 with SMTP; 26 May 2003 18:13:58 -0000 From: Mark Bucciarelli Organization: Hubcap Consulting To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 14:02:19 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200305141454.34524.mark@hubcapconsulting.com> <200305161530.00882.eva@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200305161530.00882.eva@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305261402.19614.mark@hubcapconsulting.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: Want to Help X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 18:14:40 -0000 On Friday 16 May 2003 9:30 am, Eva Brucherseifer wrote: > Hi Mark, > > On Wednesday 14 May 2003 20:54, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > > I sent an email this morning to Ian and Ben Meyer asking if they > > are interested in organizing a get together here in the northeast > > at the same time. > > You won't be able to come? No, that's during my family vacation. But is sounds like a blast! Mark From nobody Mon May 26 22:10:57 2003 Received: (qmail 16242 invoked from network); 26 May 2003 20:10:54 -0000 Received: from kde.suse.de (HELO office.kde.org) (213.95.15.68) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 26 May 2003 20:10:53 -0000 Received: by office.kde.org (Postfix, from userid 1079) id 1543892A2; Mon, 26 May 2003 22:10:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Mark Bucciarelli To: kde-cvs@kde.org X-Commit-Directories: events.kde.org/info Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20030526201052.1543892A2@office.kde.org> Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 22:10:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.5 tests=none version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) cc: novehrady@mail.kde.org Subject: events.kde.org/info/kastle X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 20:10:54 -0000 CVS commit by bucciare: - Added info from Lukas' email. - Reworked text - Added links to mailing list - Added abstract deadline to Call for Papers section CCMAIL: novehrady@mail.kde.org M +78 -46 index.phtml 1.8 From nobody Tue May 27 03:56:02 2003 Received: (qmail 3361 invoked from network); 27 May 2003 01:56:00 -0000 Received: from kde.suse.de (HELO office.kde.org) (213.95.15.68) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 27 May 2003 01:56:00 -0000 Received: by office.kde.org (Postfix, from userid 1079) id 2986092A2; Tue, 27 May 2003 03:55:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Mark Bucciarelli To: kde-cvs@kde.org X-Commit-Directories: events.kde.org Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20030527015547.2986092A2@office.kde.org> Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 03:55:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.5 tests=HTML_00_10,HTML_MESSAGE,PATCH_UNIFIED_DIFF version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) cc: novehrady@mail.kde.org Subject: events.kde.org X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 01:56:01 -0000 CVS commit by bucciare: Added new item for Call for Papers. CCMAIL: novehrady@mail.kde.org M +8 -0 news.txt 1.12 --- events.kde.org/news.txt #1.11:1.12 @@ -1,2 +1,10 @@ +Date: May 23rd, 2003 +Title: KDE Contributor Conference--Call For Papers +This year's KDE Contributor Conference will be held at a Kastle in the +Czech Republic. All KDE contributors are invited to submit an abstract if +there is something they would like to present. For more information on +submitting a paper, or to learn more about the conference in general, see +this information page. +--- Date: Feb 10th, 2003 Title: Spring Linux Events From nobody Fri May 30 00:32:47 2003 Received: (qmail 13760 invoked by uid 1055); 29 May 2003 22:32:45 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 13748 invoked from network); 29 May 2003 22:32:44 -0000 Received: from 21322530218.direct.eti.at (213.225.30.218) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 29 May 2003 22:32:43 -0000 Received: from huckfinn.arved.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h4TMWeme084242 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 00:32:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tilman@arved.de) Received: (from tilman@localhost) by huckfinn.arved.de (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h4TMWeUJ084241 for novehrady@kde.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 00:32:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: huckfinn.arved.de: tilman set sender to tilman@arved.de using -f Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 00:32:39 +0200 From: Tilman Linneweh To: novehrady@kde.org Message-ID: <20030529223239.GC12891@huckfinn.arved.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.4 required=5.5 tests=PGP_SIGNATURE_2,USER_AGENT_MUTT,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: http://events.kde.org/info/kastle/travel.phtml X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 22:32:46 -0000 --Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi list, I would like to add travel possibilities from a different direction. An alternative to Praha airport might be Vienna Airport. (http://www.viennaairport.com/), where you can arrive with most major airlines. (e.g. Air Berlin, a cheap German Airline does not fly to Praha).= =20 Getting to Nove Hrady via train from Vienna Airport takes around 3.5 hours, but since Nove Hrady is a small town only around four trains a day are=20 available.(http://www.oebb.at/)=20 Greetings from Vienna, tilman --Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+1oqGfCLDn4B6xToRAqTNAJ99TQW7YVCy8yZhJy9+qvHCeCLATgCdHXIf mp0BmWyhBQKlonDqJo6LMpg= =0Wh+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv-- From nobody Fri May 30 08:36:53 2003 Received: (qmail 6135 invoked by uid 1055); 30 May 2003 06:36:52 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 6131 invoked from network); 30 May 2003 06:36:52 -0000 Received: from azrael.spk.cz (194.196.134.186) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 May 2003 06:36:49 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (azrael [127.0.0.1]) by azrael.spk.cz (Postfix - Debian GNU/Linux) with SMTP id 043693465F5 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 08:36:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from goblin.spk.cz (unknown [194.196.123.62])3A4AF3465F2 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 08:36:44 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?q?Luk=E1=B9=20Tinkl?= Organization: KDE desktop environment To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 08:34:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <20030529223239.GC12891@huckfinn.arved.de> In-Reply-To: <20030529223239.GC12891@huckfinn.arved.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305300834.58982.lukas@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.5 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: http://events.kde.org/info/kastle/travel.phtml X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 06:36:52 -0000 Dne p=E1 30. kv=ECtna 2003 00:32 Tilman Linneweh napsal(a): > Hi list, > > I would like to add travel possibilities from a different direction. > > An alternative to Praha airport might be Vienna Airport. > (http://www.viennaairport.com/), where you can arrive with most major > airlines. (e.g. Air Berlin, a cheap German Airline does not fly to Praha). > > Getting to Nove Hrady via train from Vienna Airport takes around 3.5 hour= s, > but since Nove Hrady is a small town only around four trains a day are > available.(http://www.oebb.at/) > > Greetings from Vienna, > tilman Isn't it better to travel from the Linz airport then? =2D-=20 Luk=E1=B9 Tinkl (lukas@kde.org, lukas.tinkl@suse.cz) KDE developer | SuSE Labs | KOffice release manager http://czechia.kde.org From nobody Fri May 30 09:24:32 2003 Received: (qmail 24468 invoked by uid 1055); 30 May 2003 07:24:20 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 24462 invoked from network); 30 May 2003 07:24:19 -0000 Received: from warsl402pip5.highway.telekom.at (HELO email04.aon.at) (195.3.96.90) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 May 2003 07:24:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 324290 invoked from network); 30 May 2003 07:23:49 -0000 Received: from m788p003.adsl.highway.telekom.at ([62.47.130.99]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail4rs.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 May 2003 07:23:49 -0000 From: Werner Trobin To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 09:23:30 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <20030529223239.GC12891@huckfinn.arved.de> <200305300834.58982.lukas@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200305300834.58982.lukas@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305300923.30638.trobin@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_NJABL,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_KMAIL,X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: http://events.kde.org/info/kastle/travel.phtml X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 07:24:21 -0000 On Friday 30 May 2003 08:34, Luká¹ Tinkl wrote: > Dne pá 30. kvìtna 2003 00:32 Tilman Linneweh napsal(a): > > Hi list, > > > > I would like to add travel possibilities from a different direction. > > > > An alternative to Praha airport might be Vienna Airport. > > (http://www.viennaairport.com/), where you can arrive with most major > > airlines. (e.g. Air Berlin, a cheap German Airline does not fly to Praha). > > > > Getting to Nove Hrady via train from Vienna Airport takes around 3.5 hours, > > but since Nove Hrady is a small town only around four trains a day are > > available.(http://www.oebb.at/) > > > > Greetings from Vienna, > > tilman > > Isn't it better to travel from the Linz airport then? The train from Linz to Nove Hrady runs via Ceske Budejovice (duh!), and takes at least 3.5 hours, if you get a bad connection up to 4.5 hours. As it should be easier to get a flight to Vienna Airport than to Linz I'd say it's better to travel via Vienna, but your milage may vary. Ciao, Werner From nobody Fri May 30 10:17:48 2003 Received: (qmail 22774 invoked from network); 30 May 2003 07:11:38 -0000 Received: from box.holviala.com (62.236.116.126) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 May 2003 07:11:38 -0000 Received: from 193.81.91.203 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by box.holviala.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30607BDD2 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 10:11:34 +0300 (EEST) To: novehrady@mail.kde.org From: Dominik Stadler <1763816@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 07:11:34 GMT X-Sender: 1763816@pop.gmx.at X-Originating-Host: 193.81.91.203 [193.81.91.203]; Fri, 30 May 2003 07:11:34 GMT X-Mailer: Mailreader.com v2.3.35 (2003-03-04) X-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425, JavaScript: Off Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.5 tests=FROM_ALL_NUMS,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:17:47 +0200 Subject: X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, 1763816@gmx.at List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 07:11:38 -0000 >> Isn't it better to travel from the Linz airport then? As I live near this airport, I can give some more information if anybody wants to go that way. (Although I am not participating in the conference itself...). The Airport is not that big, so you will need to fly into Europe via Frankfurt or Vienna, nevertheless. Dominik. =================================================================== EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ =================================================================== From nobody Fri May 30 10:43:11 2003 Received: (qmail 7822 invoked from network); 30 May 2003 08:43:09 -0000 Received: from leaf.ufb.jcu.cz (HELO leaf.greentech.cz) (160.217.215.2) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 May 2003 08:43:08 -0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by leaf.greentech.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAA494D for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 12:48:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 195.113.59.157 ( [195.113.59.157]) as user ettrich@192.168.1.1 by leaf.greentech.cz with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2003 10:43:57 +0200 Message-ID: <1054284237.3ed719cd4f076@leaf.greentech.cz> Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:43:57 +0200 From: ettrich@greentech.cz To: novehrady@mail.kde.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.5 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,USER_AGENT_IMP version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Congress organization X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 08:43:10 -0000 Hi everybody, my name is Rudy Ettrich, I am the brother of Matthias, and working here in Nove Hrady as vice-director for foreign affairs of the Institute of physical Biology in Nove Hrady. Up to now the contact with the mailing list was managed by Jirka, and he still will be your main partner for technical things. But we will now on Monday have a kick-off metting for the conference organization from our site, so from now on our full "maschinery" will work to make KASTLE a success and you happy! I agree with what was written on the mailing list, that our web pages should more advertise the conference, we will work on this. OK, just to summarize, you can and should now bomb us with emails, what you want us to do for the conference ! Looking forward to see you soon in Nove Hrady Rudi BTW My congratulations to all LinuX developers, to the KDE community and to SUSE that they got the big deal in Munich yesterday)!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- RNDr. Ruediger Ettrich, PhD. Laboratory of High Performance Computing Institute of Physical Biology USB and Institute of Landscape Ecology AVCR Phone: +420 386 361 297 Mobile: +420 608 522 558 Fax: +420 386 361 219 email: ettrich@greentech.cz ----------------------------------------- Academic and University Center Nove Hrady Zamek 136 ; CZ-37333 ; Nove Hrady ; CZ website:https://www.greentech.cz From nobody Fri May 30 10:50:35 2003 Received: (qmail 11007 invoked from network); 30 May 2003 08:50:33 -0000 Received: from leaf.ufb.jcu.cz (HELO leaf.greentech.cz) (160.217.215.2) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 May 2003 08:50:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by leaf.greentech.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881B794D for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 12:55:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 195.113.59.157 ( [195.113.59.157]) as user ettrich@192.168.1.1 by leaf.greentech.cz with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2003 10:51:21 +0200 Message-ID: <1054284681.3ed71b89d7bef@leaf.greentech.cz> Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:51:21 +0200 From: ettrich@greentech.cz To: novehrady@mail.kde.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.5 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,USER_AGENT_IMP version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Travel form Vienna X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 08:50:33 -0000 Hi, regarding the Travel from Vienna, it is not that complicated as was written on the Mailing list, but you have to look for Gmünd in Lower Austria. There are more than 12 trains daily going there from Vienna/Franz Josephs Bhf., over the day every our and the travel takes 2h 10min.Gmünd is only 12 km far from Nove Hrady, and we will organize a shuttle bus going there (Our Institute has a Microbus, so this is really no problem). If there is less than 15 people coming via Vienna airport, we even can send our Microbus there to pick them up there. I will ask Jirka to add Flight via Vienna/Shuttle from Gmund in the Registration form. Rudi ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- RNDr. Ruediger Ettrich, PhD. Laboratory of High Performance Computing Institute of Physical Biology USB and Institute of Landscape Ecology AVCR Phone: +420 386 361 297 Mobile: +420 608 522 558 Fax: +420 386 361 219 email: ettrich@greentech.cz ----------------------------------------- Academic and University Center Nove Hrady Zamek 136 ; CZ-37333 ; Nove Hrady ; CZ website:https://www.greentech.cz From nobody Fri May 30 11:13:17 2003 Received: (qmail 20621 invoked by uid 1055); 30 May 2003 09:13:15 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 20614 invoked from network); 30 May 2003 09:13:14 -0000 Received: from glia.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (130.83.28.4) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 30 May 2003 09:13:11 -0000 Received: from janeway.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (janeway [130.83.28.87]) by glia.rt.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451EC10AC31; Fri, 30 May 2003 11:13:10 +0200 (MEST) From: Eva Brucherseifer Organization: K Desktop Environment To: novehrady@kde.org, 1763816@gmx.at Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 11:27:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305301127.00023.eva@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org, eva@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 09:13:16 -0000 On Friday 30 May 2003 09:11, Dominik Stadler wrote: > >> Isn't it better to travel from the Linz airport then? > > As I live near this airport, I can give some more information if > anybody wants to go that way. (Although I am not participating in > the conference itself...). > > The Airport is not that big, so you will need to fly into Europe > via Frankfurt or Vienna, nevertheless. Well, if people fly to Frankfurt anyways, might it be cheaper then, to use our tourbus which goes Frankfurt - Nürnberg - Nove Hrady? I don't have any prices yet and of course it takes more time than a flight (7-10 hours). I asked a local travel company for a price for the following routes: 21.8. Frankfurt -> Nove Hrady 22.8. Frankfurt -> Nove Hrady 26.8. Nove Hrady -> Frankfurt 31.8. Nove Hrady -> Frankfurt Greetings, eva > > Dominik. > > > > > =================================================================== > EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ > =================================================================== > > > _______________________________________________ > NoveHrady mailing list > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady From nobody Thu Jun 5 12:36:36 2003 Received: (qmail 929 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2003 10:36:30 -0000 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (130.149.17.13) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 5 Jun 2003 10:36:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (binner@fiesta.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.4]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08108 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:32:34 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Binner To: novehrady@mail.kde.org Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:32:08 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306051232.08444.binner@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.5 tests=USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Power plug standard? X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 10:36:35 -0000 Hello, I just wonder what power plug standard is used in Czech Republic? Bye, Steve From nobody Thu Jun 5 13:06:56 2003 Received: (qmail 7681 invoked by uid 1055); 5 Jun 2003 11:06:55 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 7678 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2003 11:06:55 -0000 Received: from azrael.spk.cz (194.196.134.186) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 5 Jun 2003 11:06:52 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (azrael [127.0.0.1]) by azrael.spk.cz (Postfix - Debian GNU/Linux) with SMTP id 4FABD3465FA for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:06:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from goblin.spk.cz (unknown [194.196.123.62])4EF553465EF for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:06:47 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-2?q?Luk=E1=B9=20Tinkl?= Organization: KDE desktop environment To: novehrady@kde.org Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:03:28 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <200306051232.08444.binner@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200306051232.08444.binner@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306051303.28446.lukas@kde.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.5 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: Power plug standard? X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 11:06:55 -0000 Dne =E8t 5. =E8ervna 2003 12:32 Stephan Binner napsal(a): > Hello, > > I just wonder what power plug standard is used in Czech Republic? > > Bye, > Steve 220V/50Hz (for complete info see=20 http://www.czech.cz/index.php?section=3D3&menu=3D137) (will add it to the info page) I also found a great summary on "how to get to Prague":=20 http://www.czech.cz/index.php?section=3D1&menu=3D21 If you'd like to stay in Czechia for a bit longer and travel: http://www.czech.cz/index.php?section=3D1&menu=3D23 =2D-=20 Luk=E1=B9 Tinkl (lukas@kde.org) KDE developer | KOffice release manager http://czechia.kde.org From nobody Thu Jun 5 13:13:02 2003 Received: (qmail 10736 invoked by uid 1055); 5 Jun 2003 11:13:01 -0000 Delivered-To: kde.org-novehrady@kde.org Received: (qmail 10733 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2003 11:13:00 -0000 Received: from leaf.ufb.jcu.cz (HELO leaf.greentech.cz) (160.217.215.2) by kde.informatik.uni-kl.de with SMTP; 5 Jun 2003 11:12:57 -0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by leaf.greentech.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7DB93B for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 15:18:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 160.217.215.120 ( [160.217.215.120]) as user ettrich@192.168.1.1 by leaf.greentech.cz with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:13:53 +0200 Message-ID: <1054811633.3edf25f142d10@leaf.greentech.cz> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:13:53 +0200 From: ettrich@greentech.cz To: novehrady@kde.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-MOQ1054811633cdf7d27cd6f42e7e451eae0f4931a7e0" User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.5 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,USER_AGENT_IMP version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: Power plug standard? X-BeenThere: novehrady@mail.kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: novehrady@kde.org List-Id: Organisation of KDE Nove Hrady meeting 2003 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 11:13:01 -0000 This message is in MIME format. ---MOQ1054811633cdf7d27cd6f42e7e451eae0f4931a7e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Quoting Stephan Binner : > Hello, > > I just wonder what power plug standard is used in Czech Republic? > > Bye, > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > NoveHrady mailing list > NoveHrady@mail.kde.org > http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/novehrady > Hi, round pin plug and receptacle with male grounding pin, that means Type E as in France or Greece for example. Of course, Type C, the round pin attachment plug can also be used. For better illustration i attached pictures of both types. 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