<div dir="auto"><div>Hello Albert, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">> You assume people use your workflow, and that's a lots of assumption, I've no</div>use for split views or other main windows in my workflow<div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto">You _assume_ that I assume that when in fact I don't.</div><div dir="auto">I don't use splits or extra mainWindows either. <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You are free to think it's terrible/whatever. There's no opinion dismissal here or otherwise this discourse wouldn't have happened. We decided on a more non-modal workflow. </div><div dir="auto"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 11:07 PM Albert Astals Cid <<a href="mailto:aacid@kde.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">aacid@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">El diumenge, 11 de desembre de 2022, a les 18:18:07 (CET), Waqar Ahmed va <br>
escriure:<br>
> , > And with regard to switching views with a Kate-specific keyboard<br>
> shortcut, I<br>
> switch all the time between different windows (including settings dialogs)<br>
> of<br>
> the same or different applications with Alt+Tab. How does having to learn<br>
> and<br>
> use a different keyboard shortcut in Kate improve the UX?<br>
> <br>
> You are mixing things, comparing apples and oranges. Like I suggested<br>
> already, go and use it first before assuming it's not good enough. <br>
<br>
You should not assume people have not used it, I've used it and it's terrible <br>
for me, makes me super sad/angry on a very basic level (again as mentioned on <br>
the other email, that's my particular problem). <br>
<br>
You assume people use your workflow, and that's a lots of assumption, I've no <br>
use for split views or other main windows in my workflow.<br>
<br>
Of course you'll are the ones doing the work, so you decide, but don't dismiss <br>
other people opinions just based on "it works for me".<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Albert<br>
<br>
> Besides,<br>
> I am done here / don't have the energy to argue anymore.<br>
> <br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Waqar<br>
> <br>
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 8:39 PM Ingo Klöcker <<a href="mailto:kloecker@kde.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kloecker@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > On Sonntag, 11. Dezember 2022 13:58:15 CET Waqar Ahmed wrote:<br>
> > > > It's funny how you argue that a modal dialog is bad<br>
> > > <br>
> > > What's funny? And where did I say it's bad? You misunderstand things.<br>
> > <br>
> > You wrote:<br>
> > > Why should we block the editor when the dialog is open? Give me one<br>
> > <br>
> > reason.<br>
> > <br>
> > I read this as "a modal dialog is bad", but maybe you meant something else<br>
> > with "block the editor when the dialog is open".<br>
> > <br>
> > > > completely overlay the main view with a settings view .<br>
> > > <br>
> > > But just for your info: you can open the settings in a split or a new<br>
> > > mainWindow<br>
> > <br>
> > So, instead of opening a separate settings dialog as almost any other KDE<br>
> > application the user should now open a separate view themselves? Do you<br>
> > realize how ironic this is?<br>
> > <br>
> > And with regard to switching views with a Kate-specific keyboard shortcut,<br>
> > I<br>
> > switch all the time between different windows (including settings dialogs)<br>
> > of<br>
> > the same or different applications with Alt+Tab. How does having to learn<br>
> > and<br>
> > use a different keyboard shortcut in Kate improve the UX?<br>
> > <br>
> > Regards,<br>
> > Ingo<br>
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