<div dir="auto"><div>> ideally don't commit unfinished features, my brain hates that item so much that</div><div dir="auto">I'm close to stop using kate (yes I understand that's my personal problem, not</div><div dir="auto">yours).</div><div dir="auto"> </div><div dir="auto">Ideally, send a patch if you are in so much pain. I will happily review it. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Otherwise hating on something like this is not only unproductive and unprofessional, it is just outright wrong and demotivating. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 11:01 PM Albert Astals Cid <<a href="mailto:aacid@kde.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">aacid@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">El diumenge, 11 de desembre de 2022, a les 11:58:03 (CET), Waqar Ahmed va <br>
escriure:<br>
> Hi,<br>
> <br>
> Can you explain why this is worse UX?<br>
<br>
It's inconsistent with all the rest of KDE apps, they look the same but behave <br>
different and even more important it's inconsistent with kate itself. <br>
Why would be the reason for the settings dialog to not be a dialog but the <br>
configure shortcuts dialog is still a dialog?<br>
<br>
> <br>
> This is an improvement, as it allows you to change settings without<br>
> reopening the dialog every time.<br>
<br>
I don't understand this, how can you change settings without reopening it <br>
every time now?<br>
<br>
> It also makes tweaking the theme and<br>
> editor settings a lot more pleasant which was just a crappy experience in<br>
> the past.<br>
<br>
This seems backwards to me, with the old way, one could go to the themes <br>
editor, change a color, press apply and see it happen live on the text, <br>
something that you can't do now.<br>
<br>
> Why should we block the editor when the dialog is open? Give me one reason.<br>
<br>
It should not, that's why modeless dialogs exist. But just to be clear, the <br>
new way is blocking the editor, i can't type while the settings are open <br>
either.<br>
<br>
> Of course there will be bugs, but we can always fix them (hopefully). After<br>
> watching the video I was not able to tell what was the issue. Maybe I need<br>
> to watch more closely.<br>
<br>
See how the "Close" button goes out of screen (the part where i vigorously <br>
move the mouse cursor around second 16)<br>
<br>
> Regarding the Open Widgets being an item, it was sort of unfinished in the<br>
> way that it doesn't hide when there are no widgets to close. I didn't have<br>
> time to test it so I went for the basic version where it disabled the tree<br>
> item instead of hiding.<br>
<br>
Ideally don't commit unfinished features, my brain hates that item so much that <br>
I'm close to stop using kate (yes I understand that's my personal problem, not <br>
yours).<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Albert<br>
<br>
<br>
> <br>
> Regards<br>
> <br>
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 3:45 PM Albert Astals Cid <<a href="mailto:aacid@kde.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">aacid@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > El dissabte, 10 de desembre de 2022, a les 15:46:26 (CET), Christoph<br>
> > Cullmann<br>
> > <br>
> > (<a href="http://cullmann.io" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">cullmann.io</a>) va escriure:<br>
> > > On 2022-12-10 11:03, Albert Astals Cid wrote:<br>
> > > > I don't want the settings dialog to not be a dialog.<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > I don't want an unremovable "Open Widgets" in the file tree taking<br>
> > > > space for<br>
> > > > things that actually need to take space in the tree.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Hi,<br>
> > > <br>
> > > there is no setting to turn this back,<br>
> > <br>
> > That's really unfortunate, all i can see it's just worse UX, I can't see a<br>
> > single reason on why having the settings dialog not be a dialog is an<br>
> > improvement. (not even mentioning how it's buggy in some scenarios, see<br>
> > <a href="https://i.imgur.com/uU1ACYB.mp4" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/uU1ACYB.mp4</a> )<br>
> > <br>
> > > but we shall avoid the empty entry,<br>
> > > should only be there if there are any widgets.<br>
> > <br>
> > <a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=462896" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=462896</a><br>
> > <br>
> > Cheers,<br>
> > <br>
> > Albert<br>
> > <br>
> > > Greetings<br>
> > > Christoph<br>
> > > <br>
> > > > Cheers,<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Albert<br>
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