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<p>Thanks Hy,</p>
<p>My recent tests are part of a plan to improve my guiding
performance. So I was planning to try various configurations (some
using ST4), and also want to experiment with various PEC options
(my mount has permanent pec, but I've never trained it).</p>
<p>Unfortunately the weather here has turned bad again; so I won't
be able to test again for quite a while.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/28/23 20:34, Hy Murveit wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Agreed that the "guider" label on the optical train
can be confusing. The mouse over does explain it, but that's
easy to overloop.
<div>The whole optical trains thing is a change in behaviour,
but the optical trains didn't change behaviour, as far as I
can tell.</div>
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<div><b>Your optical train still sounds wrong to me. You need to
set your mount as the guider, assuming you're not using ST4
guiding.</b></div>
<div><b>Please read the mouse-over on the "guiding" label when
editing optical trains. Jasem probably has a video on it.</b></div>
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<div>I haven't watched it, but I just found this: <a
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltOFxH_fKnQ"
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Jasem made on optical trains.</div>
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<div>Hy </div>
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<p>Thank You Hy! <br>
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<p>I think that solved my problem.<br>
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<p>I actually had not established a separate train for the
guider. My guide cam is on an OAG, and so I had only been
using a single train; which had the imaging camera as
"Camera", and the guide camera as "Guider". So now I've
created a separate train for the guiding, each train now
only has the appropriate "Camera" selected (and nothing
selected for "Guider"). <br>
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<p>I just tested it on my Desktop PC and looks like it is
working. So I'll do the same for my Raspberry Pi.<br>
</p>
<p>I guess this is a behavior change from the older version
I had on the Pi.</p>
<p>I'm very relieved!<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I'll take a wild guess and guess that the
issue is with the optical train.
<div>First you should make sure that </div>
<div>- the guide tab is using the guiding train </div>
<div>- the other tabs are using the primary train</div>
<div>- the guide train shows your guide tab on it </div>
<div>- the other tabs show your primary camera on it</div>
<div>If all that looks good, I would toggle all the
trains on all the tabs (there was an old bug that was
fixed that required that)</div>
<div>Restart your system and make sure it all looks good
again.</div>
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<div>Re your question about GUIDER_EXPOSURE: I'm not
familiar with your guide camera, but perhaps you can
ask on the forum to see if others are successfully
using that camera.</div>
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<div>Good luck,</div>
<div>Hy</div>
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<br>
I recently refreshed my Raspberry Pi4 to Ubuntu 22.04
and also upgraded <br>
KStars to 3.6.4 Stable. I'm hesitant to report the
following issue as <br>
a bug because it's likely that I have a miss
configuration, caused by my <br>
upgrade process.<br>
<br>
Last night was the first test with the upgraded Pi.
But I ran into a <br>
problem with guiding; When I started an imaging
capture the guiding <br>
failed. I soon realized that guiding was using my
imaging camera instead <br>
of my guide camera; so the imaging capture was
conflicting with guiding.<br>
<br>
Today I was able to reproduce this issue on my desktop
pc using the same <br>
cameras, (but running the telescope simulator instead
of my mount).<br>
<br>
I traced the problem of the guider selecting my
imaging camera to this <br>
line of code:<br>
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guide.cpp:739 ISD::CameraChip *targetChip = <br>
m_Camera->getChip(useGuideHead ?
ISD::CameraChip::GUIDE_CCD : <br>
ISD::CameraChip::PRIMARY_CCD);<br>
<br>
this is combined with the fact that the guide camera I
use (an ASI-290mm <br>
-Mini), is returning a false on the call to
hasGuideHead(). (Just to be <br>
clear, my imaging camera does not even have a guide
port.)<br>
<br>
I looked a bit further into the code, and discovered
that a property <br>
named GUIDER_EXPOSURE would need to be included in
guide camera <br>
definition order for the HasGuideHead value to be
true. This property is <br>
not being found by indicamera for my ASI-290mm -
Mini. This property <br>
appears to be part of CustomProperties, but it's also
in a list <br>
(skipProperties), so I think that even if it were
being set, it would be <br>
ignored.<br>
<br>
So, I'm quite lost at this point; and would appreciate
any help from you <br>
all.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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