<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi there,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">At the moment I am trying to diagnose a couple of issues in 3.6.0 for MacOS. There were a couple of problems with the 3.6.0 dmg. Sorry about that, I was hoping to have a testing or beta period and to diagnose and solve any problems before we posted it as a release. Unfortunately, the release happened just before I went on a two week vacation and I was away from my computer on vacation so I couldn’t investigate any issues at that time. (Plus I needed to actually have a vacation) I started working on them when I could after I got back. Now I am back at work, but I do still have some time in the evenings to try to fix some issues. The 3.6.0 on stellar mate or linux in general should hopefully be good I think. The Find Object crash seems to affect more than just MacOS, but that is where it first came up. I investigated that and hopefully found a temporary solution to that. I am currently trying to investigate the crash on startup now. I think I tracked the issue down to some problem with the asteroids.dat file in the data directory. I’m not sure if it is an actual issue with the file or with kstars reading the file yet, but I’m working on it. Sorry about the delays. I am hoping to resolve this fairly soon.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rob<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 24, 2022, at 11:50 AM, Steven Gross <<a href="mailto:steven.gross@tampabay.rr.com" class="">steven.gross@tampabay.rr.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Hi Jasem and Robert</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I usually use Ekos by hot spot connection to my RPI running Stellarmate.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Of note, I have NOT updated the KStars version on my Stellarmate because I was concerned when I say the email about the problem with 3.6.0 on the Mac). I am still running 3.5.8 on my Stellarmate on RPI.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I had the problem reported of KStars 3.6.0 crashing on my Mac when trying to GOTO when running the first DMG download of 3.6.0 with using the Stellarmate RPI hot spot connection. </div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I was able to still launch 3.5.9 since I had not deleted it when installing 3.6.0. </div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I am able to use GOTO and 3.5.9 seems to function OK.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I then deleted 3.6.0 using my installer which then removed all my presets.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I then installed the newer DMG you has indicated was uploaded.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I then tried to open it but it crashed with an error message.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I then uninstalled it again and went back to 3.6.0 from the previous DMG and installed it.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">It opened but I had the crash when GOTO.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">This morning, I deleted the 3.6.0 by throwing in the trash and emptying the trash.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I am still able to load 3.5.9 after this.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I then re-downloaded the newer 3.6.0 DMG and opened the DMG and copied 3.6.0 into my Applications folder as I normally would using the 3.6.0 in the DMG and coping it into the alias of the Applications folder that is in mounted DMG.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I then tried to run 3.6.0 but it would not open! The ap started to open got got stuck. No error message.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I looked in Force Quit and it said that KStars was not responding so I forced quit it.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I logged out of my ‘AstrUser’ login and into my regular daily login to do some other work.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I then tried to open KStars 3.6.0 from my other user logging just for fun and it opened fine!!!</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">What the heck is going on???</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Fortunately, I can still use 3.5.9.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">(PS: the Mac is getting more weird every day!).</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I also have KStars on a Linux machine and loads and connects fine but I have not had a chance to use it). </div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">PLEASE HELP!!!</span><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">(Perhaps I should just stick with either Windows or Linux…..)</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_signature">Steven A. Gross, MD<div class=""><img 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"="" class=""></div></div><br class=""><p class="airmail_on">On August 21, 2022 at 12:36:48 PM, Robert Lancaster (<a href="mailto:rlancaste@gmail.com" class="">rlancaste@gmail.com</a>) wrote:</p><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span class=""><div class=""><div class=""></div><div class="">Ok I just uploaded a new dmg in place of the 3.6.0 one from before. Hopefully it fixes the issue. Please check.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 21, 2022, at 2:40 AM, Jasem Mutlaq <<a href="mailto:mutlaqja@ikarustech.com" class="">mutlaqja@ikarustech.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Robert's bandaid fix was merged until the concurrency issue is resolved. Can anyone compile on MacOS and verify?<br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">--</div><div class="">Best Regards,<br class="">Jasem Mutlaq<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 5:32 AM Peter Amerl <<a href="mailto:pvamerl@gmail.com" class="">pvamerl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi All,<br class="">Just in case it is important, last night I tried out starting the executable from the command line, with the same Application crash whenever I tried the find operation, either by Apple-f or by selecting it through the menu system with the mouse. … sorry if someone already knows this to be the case … just trying to avoid a red herring due to lack of information.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">Peter<br class=""><br class="">> On 20 Aug 2022, at 20:30,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:kstars-devel-request@kde.org" target="_blank" class="">kstars-devel-request@kde.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Send Kstars-devel mailing list submissions to<br class="">> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:kstars-devel@kde.org" target="_blank" class="">kstars-devel@kde.org</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br class="">> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kstars-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kstars-devel</a><br class="">> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br class="">> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:kstars-devel-request@kde.org" target="_blank" class="">kstars-devel-request@kde.org</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> You can reach the person managing the list at<br class="">> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:kstars-devel-owner@kde.org" target="_blank" class="">kstars-devel-owner@kde.org</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br class="">> than "Re: Contents of Kstars-devel digest..."<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Today's Topics:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> 1. Re: Kstars 3.6.0 MacOS find Object crash (Robert Lancaster)<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Message: 1<br class="">> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2022 01:01:35 -0400<br class="">> From: Robert Lancaster <<a href="mailto:rlancaste@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">rlancaste@gmail.com</a>><br class="">> To: Jasem Mutlaq <<a href="mailto:mutlaqja@ikarustech.com" target="_blank" class="">mutlaqja@ikarustech.com</a>><br class="">> Cc: KStars Development Mailing List <<a href="mailto:kstars-devel@kde.org" target="_blank" class="">kstars-devel@kde.org</a>><br class="">> Subject: Re: Kstars 3.6.0 MacOS find Object crash<br class="">> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:5B5B9058-0EFD-4F8F-BE25-B329CC3ED597@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">5B5B9058-0EFD-4F8F-BE25-B329CC3ED597@gmail.com</a>><br class="">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Hey guys,<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Ok, I dug into this and ran a bunch of tests. I don’t know why this crash only occurs when running by double clicking the app and not by running from Terminal or QT Creator. It is very inconvenient to have an error that won’t happen when you run the code in a debugger and then will happen every time if you don’t! I had thought that maybe it was something with MacOS sandboxing or gatekeeper, or maybe it was something with packaging, or maybe it was something with environment variables. But as far as I could tell through my tests it is none of those. I printed the environments in a QMessagebox and they were slightly different, but not in any way that mattered I think. The packaging was not the culprit because it happened in the app both before and after packaging and I was running it on the same machine, so it should not be the issue. I haven’t fully ruled out something with MacOS, but I don’t currently think that is what it is since there was no error message or warning that pops up about the app being blocked from doing something it wasn’t supposed to.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> So then I proceeded to experiment with the changes in that one Commit. I first tried narrowing down where the problem was by copying and pasting code from before or after the commit and testing. That let me rule out a lot of the commit. Then I added some Qmessagebox debug dialogs to see exactly when it would fail. As of now, it seems that the crash is entirely based on what happens when constructing the Find Dialog in find dialog.cpp. Specifically, it happens here:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> m_asyncDBManager(new CatalogsDB::AsyncDBManager(CatalogsDB::dso_db_path()))<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> On line 65 when it constructs the new Asynch DB Manager. I did try changing the couple of lines of code in find dialog.cpp and find dialog.h so that it would use the old manager code from before this commit to verify if the new AsynchDBManger was really the culprit. And yes, it worked fine with the old code. So then I changed it back. Then I played around with the constructor for that class. Very strangely, I found that when I put my test QMessageBox message in just after line 772:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> m_thread->start();<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> It didn’t crash when it printed my debug QMessagebox but it did crash when I didn’t have it there! That got me thinking that maybe for some reason, this object needed a little more time in its constructor for some reason, even though there are no more commands after that. So I just added a sleep command to see if that would serve the same purpose and it worked!<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> QThread::msleep(100);<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> So I would really like to know why this works. Here is a commit with a band aid for you guys to take a look at:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://invent.kde.org/education/kstars/-/merge_requests/706" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://invent.kde.org/education/kstars/-/merge_requests/706</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="https://invent.kde.org/education/kstars/-/merge_requests/706" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://invent.kde.org/education/kstars/-/merge_requests/706</a>><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Thanks,<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Rob<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> On Aug 17, 2022, at 2:06 AM, Jasem Mutlaq <<a href="mailto:mutlaqja@ikarustech.com" target="_blank" class="">mutlaqja@ikarustech.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> I received one report for Find Dialog crash as well on Raspberry Pi, so perhaps it's not unique to MacOS?<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> However, I couldn't reproduce on Raspberry PI, Widows, or any x86-64 machine.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> --<br class="">>> Best Regards,<br class="">>> Jasem Mutlaq<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 8:52 AM Robert Lancaster <<a href="mailto:rlancaste@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">rlancaste@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:<a href="mailto:rlancaste@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">rlancaste@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class="">>> Ok I did some more testing.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> This commit is when the Find Dialog broke when running KStars on MacOS by double clicking the app:<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://github.com/KDE/kstars/commit/5a2ba9f8e8b275f44b7593a50ca66f09cb2f985d#diff-c2a2ab763404c18a2daee3feb8b31f2ec278034e7cc720870c4e5158081e0ee9" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/KDE/kstars/commit/5a2ba9f8e8b275f44b7593a50ca66f09cb2f985d#diff-c2a2ab763404c18a2daee3feb8b31f2ec278034e7cc720870c4e5158081e0ee9</a><<a href="https://github.com/KDE/kstars/commit/5a2ba9f8e8b275f44b7593a50ca66f09cb2f985d#diff-c2a2ab763404c18a2daee3feb8b31f2ec278034e7cc720870c4e5158081e0ee9" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/KDE/kstars/commit/5a2ba9f8e8b275f44b7593a50ca66f09cb2f985d#diff-c2a2ab763404c18a2daee3feb8b31f2ec278034e7cc720870c4e5158081e0ee9</a>><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> I think that is the one you were hoping was not the one. I still don’t know why it broke it though. Every time I run it from terminal or qt creator there is no problem. It is just when running it by double clicking that is the problem.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Note that I did test playing with the environment variables in qt creator and that seemed to have no effect. And it also didn’t seem to matter whether kstars was packaged up or not, so it doesn’t seem to be a packaging issue.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> On Aug 16, 2022, at 2:11 PM, Akarsh Simha <<a href="mailto:akarshsimha@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">akarshsimha@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:<a href="mailto:akarshsimha@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">akarshsimha@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> If I am to blame for this, the parallelism introduced in the asynchronous find dialog is my suspect, rather than the comet regex (which was actually Hy and not me). The regex seems unlikely to cause the erratic behavior Robert is observing where it runs fine under a debugger.<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> But if it works fine when running KStars from a command line, that probably exonerates me and Hy, and is likely an environment issue like Robert points out!<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Regards<br class="">>>> Akarsh<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 07:28 Robert Lancaster <<a href="mailto:rlancaste@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">rlancaste@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:<a href="mailto:rlancaste@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">rlancaste@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class="">>>> Hey guys,<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> I just got back from my two week trip to the Southwest. Yesterday I resolved the issue with building a dmg with my script, so now I can build DMGs that will work with older Macs and have all the features we want in the dmg. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Next we can look into this Find Dialog bug. I did some experiments today and I found that if I run kstars from the command line or in a debugger, the find dialog works fine, but when running the app by double clicking it crashes when you first access the find dialog. This seems to me to indicate an environment issue, like maybe an issue with environment variables or maybe a link to a library that isn’t properly in the app. I will check further.<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Thanks,<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Rob<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> On Aug 13, 2022, at 6:09 AM, John Evans <<a href="mailto:john.e.evans.email@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">john.e.evans.email@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:<a href="mailto:john.e.evans.email@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">john.e.evans.email@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> I have the same problem with 3.6.0. Crashes everytime the find object dialog is invoked (button, keyboard, etc.)<br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> Works great when I run it in debug in Qt though.<br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> Workaround is to use the skymap and click on the object you want. In the scheduler enter some text in the object field (doesn't matter what) and hit the + to use sky coordinates from the map.<br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 at 10:05, Akarsh Simha <<a href="mailto:akarshsimha@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">akarshsimha@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:<a href="mailto:akarshsimha@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">akarshsimha@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 01:27 Peter Amerl <<a href="mailto:pvamerl@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">pvamerl@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:<a href="mailto:pvamerl@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">pvamerl@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class="">>>>> Hi All,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> Has anyone else experienced an immediate crash when searching for objects on a Mac using the Apple-f key combination?<br class="">>>>> I can confirm that it has worked in the past without a crash. Neither Ctrl-f, nor selecting it from the menu appears to work for me at this time.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> The Crash trace is appended in the zip if anyone wants to have a look.<br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> Hi Peter<br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> When you say it worked in the past, could you provide the exact version / git commit, and also your current version / git commit that has the bug? I made several changes to the Find Dialog in the most recent version, notably performing asynchronous database queries through another thread. It never crashed on my Linux system. Also curious if someone else can reproduce it on MacOS or if it is unique to your system.<br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> Regards<br class="">>>>> Akarsh<br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> Cheers,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>> Peter<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> -------------- next part --------------<br class="">> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">> URL: <<a href="http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kstars-devel/attachments/20220820/4f452c3d/attachment-0001.htm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kstars-devel/attachments/20220820/4f452c3d/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> ------------------------------<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Subject: Digest Footer<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> _______________________________________________<br class="">> Kstars-devel mailing list<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Kstars-devel@kde.org" target="_blank" class="">Kstars-devel@kde.org</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kstars-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kstars-devel</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> ------------------------------<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> End of Kstars-devel Digest, Vol 223, Issue 9<br class="">> ********************************************</blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>