<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi John,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Oh ok I see, it did seem a little strange that you were sending that message after we had already released 3.5.2, so I thought I would try to explain what happened. But yes it did seem odd. Now I understand it was a posting issue.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks and happy observing. Tonight is supposed to be quite good, I’m considering whether to drive an hour and a half to get really dark skies tonight. I’m considering going to Blue Mountain Vista Observatory in Pennsylvania. Its about an hour and a half away for me.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rob<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 13, 2021, at 1:19 PM, John Pane <<a href="mailto:john@pane.net" class="">john@pane.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thank you for this explanation, and your improvements to the build scripts, Robert.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’d like to note that I sent that message on Feb 15, not March 11 as shown below. It was held back from posting awaiting moderator approval.</div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 15, 2021, at 06:21, <a href="mailto:kstars-devel-owner@kde.org" class="">kstars-devel-owner@kde.org</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">Your mail to 'Kstars-devel' with the subject<br class=""><br class=""> Re: ZWO problem on Mac with Kstars 3.5.1<br class=""><br class="">Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.<br class=""><br class="">The reason it is being held:<br class=""><br class=""> Post by non-member to a members-only list</div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And between Feb 15 and March 11, you built 3.5.2 and shared it with me before announcement, to my great appreciation. I do not want to seem ungrateful for that, or your fantastic contributions to this project!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 11, 2021, at 17:28, Robert Lancaster <<a href="mailto:rlancaste@gmail.com" class="">rlancaste@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Hi John,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yes I agree that someone else could have built it since I have invested a large amount of time over the last several years designing and maintaining scripts that should allow anyone with a recent Mac to build it along with instructions to do so. Yes it was a simple build error that was caused by a couple of broken links in the build directory. No it wasn’t detected because there are lots of cameras and other equipment supported by INDI and we would need to have people test every single camera and every single device with every build to guarantee that there are no issues. I know I don’t have every camera or mount supported by INDI, nor do I have the time to do all that testing, we have to rely on others to do the testing. The error was detected and reported a couple of weeks after the release. Actually, before the release of 3.5.2, I modified my script to hopefully detect this kind of issue to prevent it in the future. But we need all the testing we can get when a build is posted for testing.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I post the build usually several days to a week before the release as well as periodic builds in between releases and ask for testers to test, but we need everyone to contribute to get this information. I along with many other folks who contribute to this project am a volunteer and my full time job was demanding a lot more of my time and attention due to the challenges posed by COVID-19. I also needed a break from coding for awhile since I had just spent a number of months developing and integrating StellarSolver. So I apologize that I couldn’t do it sooner, but times are a bit challenging right now. If someone else did it when I don’t have time, I would appreciate it.<br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">I would like to get fully automated builds from craft set up to do this in the future, but that will still require some effort before we can get there.</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Thanks,</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Rob</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Mar 11, 2021, at 3:21 PM, John Pane <<a href="mailto:john@pane.net" class="">john@pane.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div class="">Am I reading this right, that a simple build error in a public release of kstars 3.5.1, that affects many users, was reported Jan 13 and still has not been fixed?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It seems like this is the kind of thing that should have been detected <i class="">during</i> the failed build or in testing immediately before release — and failing that, fixed with high priority once discovered. It’s not like this requires complex debugging and coding to fix.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I know it’s free software but it has a good reputation (so far) and people rely on it. If Robert didn’t have the time to build it, couldn’t someone else have done so?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">John Pane,</div><div class="">Pittsburgh, PA<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 14, 2021, at 22:55, Thomas Gaussiran <<a href="mailto:gaussiran@gmail.com" class="">gaussiran@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Rob,</div><div dir="ltr" class="">Thanks for the update. We are in the midst of a winter storm here so no viewing for me. Will look forward to 3.5.2. </div><div dir="ltr" class="">Regards,</div><div dir="ltr" class="">Tom</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Feb 14, 2021, at 20:48, Robert Lancaster <<a href="mailto:rlancaste@gmail.com" class="">rlancaste@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class="">Hey guys, just a quick update on this. I think we are going to rebuild for 3.5.2 very soon. I also was just informed the other day about an <a href="http://astrometry.net/" class="">astrometry.net</a> GPL2 vs GPL3 licensing issue in their code which is also included in StellarSolver. Dustin Lang made a change in <a href="http://astrometry.net/" class="">astrometry.net</a> the other day to fix it and I updated StellarSolver’s astrometry code to reflect his update. Right now I am waiting for confirmation from the folks who raised the issue to see if the changes we made satisfy them. That is the cause for the delay. I’m now pretty well caught up on work so I should be able to build a new version of KStars whenever we are ready. My understanding is that 3.5.2 is coming in just a few days, so we might just wait for that. Will that work? I am really sorry about the delay, I know I said I would do this a month ago, but at the time I had a whole lot of work to do.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rob<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 7, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Robert Lancaster <<a href="mailto:rlancaste@gmail.com" class="">rlancaste@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Hi there,</span><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I am sorry no I haven’t rebuilt it yet because the last couple of weeks I had a lot of work. I am a physics teacher and we had to transition to hybrid teaching from remote and it also was close to the end of the marking period so I had a lot to finish up. Now that we are in the 3rd marking period, I should have more time and can probably do it this week. Sorry about the delay.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Thanks</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Rob<br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Feb 6, 2021, at 11:32 PM, Brett Nordby <<a href="mailto:blnordby@hotmail.com" class="">blnordby@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hello,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I seem to be experiencing the same (or similar) issue on KStars 3.5.1 on Mac. I launch my profile but immediately see that none of my ASI cameras mount. Then the INDI drivers crash… and then KStars itself crashes.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The last message in this email chain was over 3 weeks ago. Has 3.5.1 been rebuilt with the missing library, and where can we find it? I confirmed that the version on the KStars information page still has the issue (unfortunately I learned this<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=""><i class="">after</i></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>driving three hours out to the desert).<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thank you!<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Kstars-devel <<a href="mailto:kstars-devel-bounces@kde.org" class="">kstars-devel-bounces@kde.org</a>> on behalf of Robert Lancaster <<a href="mailto:rlancaste@gmail.com" class="">rlancaste@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Thursday, January 14, 2021 at 8:35 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Thomas Gaussiran <<a href="mailto:gaussiran@gmail.com" class="">gaussiran@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:kstars-devel@kde.org" class="">kstars-devel@kde.org</a> <<a href="mailto:kstars-devel@kde.org" class="">kstars-devel@kde.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: ZWO problem on Mac with Kstars 3.5.1<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">So I took a look and it looks like the issue was just that there was a broken link to the ZWO library in my build folder so that when it tried to build the driver and link to the library, it didn’t work. I don’t think it was any actual issue with the driver, so I should be able to rebuild it and not have a problem. I can probably do the rebuild on the weekend.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Jan 13, 2021, at 11:39 PM, Thomas Gaussiran <<a href="mailto:gaussiran@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gaussiran@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Robert,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks for the quick reply. I rolled back to 3.5.0 and the should have 2 clear nights. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Cheers,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Tom<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Jan 13, 2021, at 21:46, Robert Lancaster <<a href="mailto:rlancaste@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rlancaste@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Oh dear, that means I will need to rebuild KStars. I’m not sure why that one didn’t get built. The ZWO driver usually has no problems. I can’t do it right now, but I should be able to fix it soon, maybe tomorrow.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Jan 13, 2021, at 8:01 PM, Thomas Gaussiran <<a href="mailto:gaussiran@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gaussiran@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hello,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I just upgraded to the 3.5.1 version of Kstars and now when I go to start my configuration, I’m getting the following error. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo;" class="">2021-01-14T00:41:12: Driver indi_asi_ccd: dyld: Library not loaded: @rpath/libASICamera2.dylib<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo;" class="">2021-01-14T00:41:12: Driver indi_asi_ccd: Referenced from: /Applications/KStars.app/Contents/MacOS/indi/indi_asi_ccd<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo;" class="">2021-01-14T00:41:12: Driver indi_asi_ccd: Reason: image not found<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo;" class="">Child process 4045 died<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo;" class="">Any suggestions on how to address?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo;" class="">Thanks,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo;" class="">Tom</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>