<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">Same for me, one or two topics per meeting is the most sufficient one. I also like the ideas of submitting a written outline of the topic.</span><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">What about if we set a deadline for topic submissions and do subsequently a voting only on those topics where an outline is available? The rest we could put in our backlog.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">Looking forward seeing you soon!</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">Wolfgang</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 05.06.2020 um 09:11 schrieb Jasem Mutlaq <<a href="mailto:mutlaqja@ikarustech.com" class="">mutlaqja@ikarustech.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hello Hy,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I like this idea of picking a certain topic and then focusing on it during a meeting. So the meeting is an online workshop to get things *done* for that particular discussion item. At least write the outlines and general strategy. </div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">--</div><div class="">Best Regards,<br class="">Jasem Mutlaq<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:47 AM Hy Murveit <<a href="mailto:murveit@gmail.com" class="">murveit@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">I'd be happy to attend the 2nd monthly meeting!<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I know Jasem was disappointed by the lack of action after the 1st, but for me it was a positive experience just getting to know people and understanding a bit more about the project. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don't know if I can make an agenda from the past minutes. How about a change of pace, and have a single topic meeting. It would have to be a topic that is of general interest--that is, I could spend an hour talking about some project I'm doing, but I'm afraid that wouldn't be too interesting for everyone else. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think it would need to be something like (these are only examples, please provide your own):</div><div class="">- KStars 2020 plan, or </div><div class="">- release cycle</div><div class="">- how to do code reviews/merge-requests</div><div class="">- how to document, </div><div class="">- how can we get to more automated testing, </div><div class="">- how to get more people interested in developing, or </div><div class="">- whether we want to get more people interested in developing, or ...</div><div class="">- how do we better understand users, get data on what they're using/doing,</div><div class="">- big new feature areas</div><div class="">- should we tear apart module X and start over?</div><div class="">- how do we keep the forum civil</div><div class="">- should we have a "code yellow" on topic X (where we all drop what we normally would do, and focus for a period of time on some important but under-loved topic. At Google we had these related to test coverage, refactoring, speed-ups, ...). </div><div class="">- ...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A concrete proposal is for any/all of us to have, say 1 week, to submit emails detailing what topic we love, and what there is to discuss in that topic. I strongly feel some up-front written info to think about would be helpful for the live discussion. After that week, we spend the next week voting on the topic (e.g. everyone picks their top 2, with 3 points for #1 and 1 point for #2) then tally up the votes, then have the meeting and discuss.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">How does that sound? It only works if people actually (a) send in topics, and (b) are interested in attending with said topic.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Alternatively, we can have another group discussion, which can also be fun.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hy</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 2:52 AM Eric Dejouhanet <<a href="mailto:eric.dejouhanet@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">eric.dejouhanet@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="FR" class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Hello,</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Sorry for being so late to the minutes (it took me ages to restore my subscription), it was a real pleasure to talk with you all too.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">In order to increase the accessibility of the mailing list, I propose we use the Badges functionality of the brand new <a href="http://invent.kde.org/" target="_blank" class="">invent.kde.org</a>. <a href="http://Shields.io" class="">Shields.io</a> offers a long list of small predefined and customizable badges that we could add to the front page of the project.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Could we arrange a new conference in June ?</p><p class="MsoNormal">We said it would be better to set it in the evening for US and morning for EU. I propose we continue to use the Google Meet or Hangout systems unless you have other preferences.</p><p class="MsoNormal">Although my network line is small, I can also research how to record the meeting (I’m a noob at this).</p><p class="MsoNormal">Hy, would you propose an agenda from Jasem’s minutes ?</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">-Eric<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">- <a href="mailto:eric.dejouhanet@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">eric.dejouhanet@gmail.com</a> – <a href="https://astronomy.dejouha.net/" target="_blank" class="">https://astronomy.dejouha.net</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p></div></div>
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