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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I also think it would be
nice to put out a new beta soon. Regarding 2.0.0, we had this discussion before
(started at </span></font><a
href="http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kst/2010-January/016982.html"><span
lang=EN-GB>http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kst/2010-January/016982.html</span></a><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>) but it was quite a while back and in the
meantime a lot of things have been done (good feeling, isn't it?) so an update
is certainly nice. Below is my personal unauthorized opinion:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Before the next beta (a
couple of days at most):<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>try to activate gsl-based plugins also on Windows, I believe this
should not be too long (that is for someone like Peter, who has the required
Windows development fu) and it would be nice to gather some feedback with that
from the next beta<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>have a look at bug #219845 (and printing in general, I also
experienced some not really WYSIWYG behaviour)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>make sure the layout does not get broken too easily (I confess I
don't know the exact status, but at some point it was pretty painful: when you
changed the layout with the layout mode to organize the plots in a sensible
way, and then added one extra plot everything was shuffled around…)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Before 2.0.0:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>play some more with datasources to stress-test the API (netcdf
would be a very good candidate, as I already said: it supports scalars,
matrices, per file and per-data metadata, …). The question is also from
which version on we can promise a stable datasource API…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>offer a way to install custom plugins (as in kst 1.x) – we
recently had the need for something that can't be done with equations nor
existing plugins and I realized we were a bit stuck. And there again there have
been changes in the API, we have to test them with different perspectives.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>check proper behaviour of view objects (rescaling, relation to
plots, etc…: I think there are still some improvements needed)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>improve some strings which are too developer-oriented
("primitives", etc…). As those are visible in the UI, if we
want translations for 2.0.0 we have to make the changes before… By the
way, how is it supposed to work with translations? Can we use the KDE
infrastructure for kst2, which is right now a Qt-only application?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well, it sounds like
quite a lot but maybe some of it is not 100% needed and it is good to have an
up-to-date list anyway. A nice 2.0.0 release before summer should definitely be
feasible.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nicolas<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Barth
Netterfield [mailto:barth.netterfield@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Freitag, 30. April 2010
04:22<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> kst@kde.org<br>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Not sure for a criterion.
There are a few regressions left that I have to get into bugzilla.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> -GSL fits is important<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> -There is an X based memory leak that has popped up that I
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> -Some more stuff I can't remember off hand.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Let shoot for June 1 or no show-stoppers, which ever comes later.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Peter Kümmel <<a
href="mailto:syntheticpp@gmx.net">syntheticpp@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Fine! I also realized that we are already at beta5,<br>
beta2 was only the last release with windows binaries.<br>
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And what should be the criterion to release 2.0.0?<br>
No show stoppers after releasing beta5? And how long<br>
should we wait?<br>
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Peter</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Barth Netterfield wrote:<br>
> I think we should!<br>
><br>
> C. Barth Netterfield<br>
> University of Toronto<br>
> 416-845-0946<br>
><br>
> On Apr 29, 2010 7:05 PM, "Peter Kümmel" <<a
href="mailto:syntheticpp@gmx.net">syntheticpp@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Looking at bugzilla shows that there are no critical bugs any more:<br>
><br>
> <a
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> Only <a href="http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=235050" target="_blank">http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=235050</a>
which maybe only happens on<br>
> very slow Windows systems.<br>
> And it seems the memory leaks on Windows are also fixed.<br>
> So shouldn't we release a new beta?<br>
><br>
> Peter<br>
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