<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the info!<div><br></div><div>garyk</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 8:24 AM Thomas Baumgart <<a href="mailto:thb@net-bembel.de">thb@net-bembel.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
<div style="font-family:monospace;font-size:10pt;font-weight:400;font-style:normal">
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">Gary,</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">there is no problem when using a file created with 4.8.x on 5.0.x and vice versa. Up and downgrading is not the problem (AFAIR) except being tedious in your use case which requires to unmap and remap the online account when switching versions because an internal name has been changed between the two KMyMoney versions.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">Why don't you upgrade the Windows version also to 5.0? There are some installers available with differing contents:</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">1) <a href="https://build.opensuse.org/package/binary/download/windows:mingw:win64/mingw64-kmymoney5:mingw64-kmymoney5-installer/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/x86_64/mingw64-kmymoney5-installer-5.0.4-lp151.5.7.noarch.rpm" target="_blank">https://build.opensuse.org/package/binary/download/windows:mingw:win64/mingw64-kmymoney5:mingw64-kmymoney5-installer/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/x86_64/mingw64-kmymoney5-installer-5.0.4-lp151.5.7.noarch.rpm</a></p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">This contains a windows installer which needs to be extracted using a zip tool (AFAIR)</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">2) <a href="https://binary-factory.kde.org/job/KMyMoney_Release_win64/" target="_blank">https://binary-factory.kde.org/job/KMyMoney_Release_win64/</a></p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">On this page you find the latest stable build (build daily). This may not contain all plugins and translations.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">Hope that helps.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">Regards</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">Thomas</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"><br><br>On Dienstag, 6. August 2019 07:54:34 CEST Gary Kirkpatrick wrote:<br><br></p>
<p style="margin:12px 40px 0px;text-indent:0px">She gave me the KDE version number.  The KMM version is 4.8.0</p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px;text-indent:0px"><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px;text-indent:0px"><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px;text-indent:0px">You said you can not use 4x and 5x on the same file.  So it will cause problems if I work on the file created with 4.8.0 using my 5.0 version?</p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px;text-indent:0px"><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px;text-indent:0px"><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px;text-indent:0px">thanks</p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px;text-indent:0px"><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px;text-indent:0px"><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px;text-indent:0px">gary<br></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px;text-indent:0px">On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 7:34 PM Thomas Baumgart <<a href="mailto:thb@net-bembel.de" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(0,87,174)">thb@net-bembel.de</span></a>> wrote:<br></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">Hi all,</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">On Sonntag, 4. August 2019 18:10:54 CEST Brendan Coupe wrote:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> Gary,</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> I'm not a developer but I ran into OFX import problems when first</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> moving from KMM 4.8 to KMM 5. I don't think it's possible to use the</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> same file on the current and previous versions of KMM.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> As I recall a setting in the kmy file changed:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> provider="KMyMoney OFX"</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> changed to:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> provider="ofximport"</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">Yes, that is why I was asking for the exact version numbers (though 4.12.5 is not a KMyMoney version number).</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">And it is true, you cannot use 4.x and 5.x on the same file.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> If I remember correctly you either have to make this change in your</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> kmy file or unmap and remap all of the online accounts.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">I do not recommend to change the data file unless you know exactly what you are doing.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> You can search though the mailing list archives for "KF5 Questions</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> About Online Banking".</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> ----</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> Brendan Coupe</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> ----</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> Brendan Coupe</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 9:53 AM Gary Kirkpatrick <</span><a href="mailto:pegngary@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:monospace;text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(0,87,174)">pegngary@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-family:monospace">> wrote:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> ></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> ></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> ></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> > On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 5:12 PM Jack <</span><a href="mailto:ostroffjh@aya.yale.edu" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:monospace;text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(0,87,174)">ostroffjh@aya.yale.edu</span></a><span style="font-family:monospace">> wrote:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >> Gary,</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >> One additional question which may or may not matter. Do you import on both machines, or only on yours? If only on yours, have you tried importing on the other machine? (I suggest this only as a test, not to actually change your standard process. I would probably not even save the results after an import on Windows, unless you already to that.)</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >> Jack</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >> On 8/4/19 8:02 AM, Gary Kirkpatrick wrote:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >> My version is 5.0.3. Her's is 4.12.5. Not sure if that is the latest version for windows,</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >> Using ofx to import</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >> thanks!!</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >> gary</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >> On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 1:03 PM Thomas Baumgart <</span><a href="mailto:thb@net-bembel.de" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:monospace;text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(0,87,174)">thb@net-bembel.de</span></a><span style="font-family:monospace">> wrote:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Gary,</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> this gives some more details which are relevant. Your use case is certainly not something I/we had in mind when writing the software. Nevertheless, it might work under certain circumstances.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Which online banking mechanism do you use when mapping? Is it kbanking or ofximporter? With kbanking you certainly run into problems. I am not sure about ofximporter. Mixing older and newer versions is also a problem, but from 5.0.3 on things should be stable. The term 'the latest' is always a problem. Please use the information provided in the header of the Help/About KMyMoney dialog. Many thanks in advance.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Waiting for your answers.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Regards</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Thomas</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> On Sonntag, 4. August 2019 07:22:27 CEST Gary Kirkpatrick wrote:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Every time I open the file I have to remap it. My wife works on it on her Windows laptop. Then I work on on my Ubuntu box. Not sure if that is what causes it to unmap. She just download the latest windows version and that is when this problem occurred.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> gary</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 5:45 PM Thomas Baumgart <</span><a href="mailto:thb@net-bembel.de" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:monospace;text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(0,87,174)">thb@net-bembel.de</span></a><span style="font-family:monospace">> wrote:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Gary,</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> not sure what is causing this, but did you already try to unmap and remap the account?</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Regards</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Thomas</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> On Samstag, 3. August 2019 11:45:32 CEST Gary Kirkpatrick wrote:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Hi</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Getting the following error message when I try to download transactions.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Unable to map account to online account: Unknown account id /build/kmymoney-Hc7zDW/kmymoney-5.0.3/kmymoney/mymoney/storage/mymoneystoragemgr.cpp:611</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Using KMM 5.0.3 on Ubuntu Budgie 19.04</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> thanks</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> garyk</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> --</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> See my art and blog site Whatsapp +34 658 744 302 best, or +1 570 832 4480</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> --</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Regards</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Thomas Baumgart</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> </span><a href="https://www.signal.org/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:monospace;text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(0,87,174)">https://www.signal.org/</span></a><span style="font-family:monospace"> Signal, the better WhatsApp</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> The person who says it cannot be done</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> should not interrupt the person doing it!</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> --</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> See my art and blog site Whatsapp +34 658 744 302 best, or +1 570 832 4480</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> --</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Regards</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> Thomas Baumgart</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> </span><a href="https://www.signal.org/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:monospace;text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(0,87,174)">https://www.signal.org/</span></a><span style="font-family:monospace"> Signal, the better WhatsApp</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> To be or not to be that is the question. - Any programmer</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> knows the answer: $2B | !$2B is $FF.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> >>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> ></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> ></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> > I'll give that a try. Are we supposed to top or bottom post? I've forgotten.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> ></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> ></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> > garyk</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> ></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">> ></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">-- </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">Regards</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">Thomas Baumgart</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><a href="https://www.signal.org/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:monospace;text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(0,87,174)">https://www.signal.org/</span></a><span style="font-family:monospace"> Signal, the better WhatsApp</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">-------------------------------------------------------------</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">The only 'intuitive' interface is the nipple. After that, it's all learned.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">-- Bruce Ediger, </span><a href="mailto:bediger@teal.csn.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:monospace;text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(0,87,174)">bediger@teal.csn.org</span></a><span style="font-family:monospace">, on X interfaces</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace">-------------------------------------------------------------</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px 0px 46px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:monospace"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px 40px;text-indent:0px"><br>-- <br></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-right:0px"><li align="center" style="margin:12px 40px;text-indent:0px"> <a href="http://www.garyjkirkpatrick.com/" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(0,87,174)">See my art and blog site</span></a>  Whatsapp +34 658 744 302 best, or  +1 570 832 4480<br></li></ul>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"><br><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">-- </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">Regards</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">Thomas Baumgart</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"><a href="https://www.signal.org/" target="_blank">https://www.signal.org/</a>       Signal, the better WhatsApp</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">-------------------------------------------------------------</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">"I'd like to buy Windows." "Are you crazy?" "Is this part of the licence</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">agreement?" "Not really, but it might ease the usage ..."</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">-------------------------------------------------------------</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p></div></blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="text-align:center"><ul><li><span style="font-size:12.8px"> </span><a href="http://www.garyjkirkpatrick.com/" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">See my art and blog site</a><span style="font-size:12.8px"> </span><span style="font-size:12.8px"> Whatsapp +34 658 744 302 best, or  +1 570 832 4480</span><br></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>