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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><i>Hi Alvaro</i><br>
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      On 11/06/2013 12:20 PM, Alvaro Soliverez wrote:<br>
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              <div>Hello Michael,<br>
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              That option is used for price of investments, so we only
              display a price if there is an actual price for that day.<br>
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          <div>For normal conversion of currencies, if it doesn't find a
            price for that day, it will look for a previous price and
            use that one. That option will just set the price to 0, and
            any 0 value in the chart will not be painted.<br>
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          If you think about it, it makes sense that budget reports with
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    <i>Of course, it does not make sense for budget reports.</i><br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Now, to fix it, I'd say we should disable the
        option for any report that's not an investment report.<br>
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    <i>I could not agree more. After all, when reporting my observations
      my point was definitely NOT to ask for an option to suppress
      fields with zero values. I brought this up because I was presented
      crazy figures and started wondering about the definition of
      "price" and what I might have misunderstood.</i><br>
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              <div>Regards,<br>
                Alvaro<br>
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    <i>Thanks and regards,</i><i><br>
    </i><i>Michael</i><br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Michael
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              <div>Hi Alvaro,<br>
                I understand. It was only yesterday when pointing at
                "Skip value if price is zero" that I saw the note
                explaining that this option was for investment reports
                ..... instead of balances as all other reports do. I'd
                never seen that note before.<br>
                I nice option for investment reports but a bit
                misleading for silly guys like me when offered for
                configuring Budgeted vs. Actual reports.<br>
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                Again, I very much appreciate your prompt help - great!<br>
                <br>
                Cheers<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
                    Michael Berger</font></span>
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                    On 11/05/2013 01:29 PM, Alvaro Soliverez wrote:<br>
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                            <div>Hello Michael,<br>
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                            First of all, thanks for the detailed
                            explanation.<br>
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                          There should be no interaction between that
                          option and budget reports. As you guessed
                          correctly, it has to do with prices of
                          currencies and investments, and it's intended
                          for use only with invesment price reports.<br>
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                        <div>There's no similar option for budgets, at
                          least that I can remember.<br>
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                        I'll go into the code and fix, since I added the
                        option.<br>
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                      Thanks for your help.<br>
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                      Regards,<br>
                      Alvaro<br>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at
                        8:32 AM, Michael Berger <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                            <div>Hello Alvaro,<br>
                              thanks for your response.<br>
                              <br>
                              I am owing and as well managing assets and
                              accounts of various types  in the
                              currencies EURO (base), SFR, USD, IDR, all
                              in the same KMM-files.<br>
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                              Owners of these different accounts
                              (residing in Europe) would like to see,
                              inter alia, the following reports and
                              summaries:<br>
                              Income and Expenses, Cash-flow, Budgeting
                              (budgeted vs. actual yearly). <br>
                              In order to access ones property and do
                              some planning, an easy to grasp summary is
                              desirable and furthermore to have it
                              presented in the owner's respective base
                              currency, say in EURO.<br>
                              <br>
                              Now, all this works fine as long as you
                              would not use the option "Skip value if
                              price is zero". But if you do the
                              resulting figures go beyond every
                              imagination.<br>
                              Im not quite satisfied when proposing not
                              to use this option because:<br>
                              Firstly, it simply is offered there and
                              thus inviting you to use it - whoever put
                              it there must have had something in mind.
                              Secondly, yearly reports "Budgeted vs.
                              Actual" can become very, very large and
                              may contain a number of
                              categories/accounts with values (prices?)
                              varying over time between zero and any
                              higher value. Navigating through the
                              report becomes hard and each position of
                              temporary irrelevance (because it happens
                              to be just empty at that time) would make
                              the spread sheet more lucid.<br>
                              <br>
                              As I said, this is nothing of any
                              significant importance and I am not a bit
                              encouraging or asking to put any effort
                              into this. But then, this is not correct
                              in my opinion. Perhaps simply remove the
                              option "Skip value if price is zero" and
                              that's it? <br>
                              It also strikes me what is really meant
                              here by the term "price". Does this refer
                              to the prices of currencies as shown in
                              KMM's Price Editor (I would anticipate it
                              should). It goes without saying that in my
                              reports the "prices" are not empty but
                              left untouched all the time whereas other
                              accounts/categories etc. may show a zero
                              value in one month and not in the next
                              month.<br>
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                              Looking at the exchange rate between EURO
                              and IDR it is something like 1 :
                              0,00006512. My precision is set to eight
                              digits.<br>
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                              Thanks to you and all those involved in
                              creating and developing this very fine
                              program!<br>
                              <br>
                              Cheer!<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                                  Michael</font></span>
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                                  On 11/04/2013 10:56 PM, Alvaro
                                  Soliverez wrote:<br>
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                                        I haven't really tested, but I'm
                                        wondering what you expect to get
                                        from the "skip value if price is
                                        zero" option. It's originally
                                        meant for investment price
                                        options, and I can't think of
                                        valid cases for using it in
                                        budget reports.<br>
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                                      What do you think this option
                                      should do?<br>
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                                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov
                                      4, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Michael Berger
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                                          text="#000000"> Hi all!<br>
                                          in May this year  I reported
                                          the following to the list but
                                          got no response. Here it is
                                          again:<br>
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                                          <i>I am using various
                                            currencies next to my base
                                            currency which is the EURO.</i><i><br>
                                          </i><i> When setting up a
                                            budget all native currencies
                                            are nicely converted to the
                                            base currency and shown as
                                            such.</i><i><br>
                                          </i><i> In Report
                                            Configuration the option
                                            "Convert values to base
                                            currency" is activated in
                                            the tab "Report".</i><i><br>
                                          </i><i> The other two options
                                            are left not ticked.</i><i><br>
                                          </i><i> The Budget Report
                                            looks as it should, i. e.
                                            all currencies are correctly
                                            converted and shown.</i><i><br>
                                          </i><i> </i><i><br>
                                          </i><i> However, if "Skip
                                            value if price is zero" is
                                            also activated, native
                                            currencies are NOT converted
                                            and I turn from pensioner to
                                            billionaire the very moment
                                            I hit ENTER (1 IDR becomes 1
                                            EURO whereas it should be
                                            only something near to
                                            0,00007... Euro)</i><i><br>
                                          </i><i> </i><i><br>
                                          </i><i> This is not what I
                                            expected to see unless I
                                            completely misinterpret the
                                            meaning of "Skip value if
                                            price is zero".</i><i><br>
                                          </i><i> Then, what the heck is
                                            meant by "price"?</i><i><br>
                                          </i><i> Do we perhaps have a
                                            bug here?</i><i><br>
                                          </i><i> </i><i><br>
                                          </i><i> Cheers everybody!</i><i><br>
                                          </i><i> </i><i><br>
                                          </i><i> Oh, I am using KMM
                                            4.6.3 under KDE 4.10.2</i><br>
                                          <br>
                                          Nothing really serious but
                                          somehow irritating. Am I the
                                          only one to have noticed this
                                          behavior?<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Cheers!<br>
                                          Michael<br>
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                                          Berger, Dipl. Ing.<br>
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