Date format trouble (locale)

[Koos Pol]

Op 10-08-2020 om 22:02 schreef Jack:
> On 2020.08.10 15:18, Koos Pol wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm stuck with dates. For my KDE desktop I'm using my proper locale
>> (nl_NL) with a short date (DD-MM-YY).
>> With this format I can't enter dates 1990 and earlier. KMyMoney wil take
>> that as 2090.
>> I've looked at other locales having YYYY-MM-DD. But obviously that gives
>> a host of other issues.
>>
>> Unfortunately KDE doesn't provide a personalized date setting. So I'm
>> stuck with what I get.
>>
>> What would be the next course of action?
>>
>>  1. Is there a work around available? E.g. start KMM from the command
>>     line with specific locale settings?
>>  2. Raise a feature request on KMM to provide date formats independent
>>     of KDE? Which would not be unreasonable. There is a fair case to
>>     have your financial dates not be bothered with your environment.
>>  3. Raise a "change request" on KMM to re-assess date interpretation.
>>  4. Raise a feature request on KDE to provide personalized date formats?
>>
>> I'm hoping for (1), but leaning towards (4). Opinions welcome!
> It's worth opening a wishlist bug, just so this isn't forgotten in
> case this thread doesn't lead to a definitive action.  You can list
> several possible actions there, so it doesn't limit you to only one
> choice.
>
> Have you looked at the KDE SystemSettings tool - under
> Personalization/Regional Settings/Formats, if you check Detailed
> Settings, you can then hunt through all the possible locales just for
> the Time setting.  You might be ablet o find one with a long format
> similar enough to nl_NL, but a short format with four digit year.
>
> Another possibility is to create a new locale, which you copy from
> nl_NL and then modify the short format time setting.  I think I tried
> this once (for a similar reason, if I remember) and although I don't
> think I actually succeeded, it might be worth a new attempt.  It might
> be possible to combine these two - create a new locale with your
> desired short date format, and then just use that single format as a
> change to the rest of nl_NL.
>
> Jack

Good morning,

I've eventually settled for LC_TIME=af_ZA (South African) as an
environment variable for KMyMoney.  It gives me proper short ISO
(YYYY-MM-DD) with month names in the date picker which are similar
enough to Dutch. It also doesn't interfere with the rest of my desktop
settings. For as far as convenience goes, LC_TIME is probably your best bet.

Regarding creating a specific locale for this: that's not going to
happen. Read here[*] for why.

It does strengthen my opinion that KMM should be able to display the
numerical bits of a date in a specific format. For financial reporting
you simply can't have ambiguity (11/03/09) or restrictions (90=2090,
1990 is not possible). Having that predetermined/restricted by Qt and/or
you personal locale settings is not sound.

Thanks for everyone's help!
Koos

[*]
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/410844/how-to-hack-and-modify-a-predefined-date-time-format-of-kde-5-that-comes-with-de

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