delete or not to delete that is the question

[Aaron Mehl]

 Hi,I am not so sure that its a UI debate. I am asking about a function. The fact that it is in the interface is secondary. I as a user open an account at a bank. I decide to close that account. I decide to switch banks. I as a user might want to keep the records of that closed account or I might want to remove every trace of it. I as a user might want to not use a part of the interface, it is my choice.
Now once the program lets me do what I need to do we can talk about the UI issue. There is a rule call K.I.S.S. which says that the UI should be simple and intuitive. If a user has to hunt around to find something on an interface the user gets frustrated and looks for another program. The UI debate you are talking about is from the developers side. This I guess presupposes that the user is a developer....
Overall KMyMoney works well. But the interface is full of fluff. Fluff is when the interface is jam packed with too many ways to do the same thing and then no ways to do others among other issues. The issue of consistency of how menus and dialog boxes work where parallel functions do different things. Users expect that clicking on New Institution and New Account will give me the same result. Other Issues are the text on the dialog boxes and wizards. These need to me clear and concise and consistent as well. For example I open the New Account wizard and the first thing I see is new institution. I included a screen capture of the text. It starts with the word 'If'. If means a few things. A bank account can exist without a bank? If implies that an institution is optional or maybe not important. This would confuse a user. It won't confuse a developer since he built the program. 
Can I close/delete an account in KMyMoney? If so, how. If not why? If there is a good reason why I can't delete an account, then it shouldn't be in the UI to confuse the user, never-mind the UI debate. The program should I hope put the user first.Thank you for answering me.Aaron     
    On Sunday, December 13, 2020, 02:11:45 AM EST, Thomas Baumgart <thb at net-bembel.de> wrote:  
 
 Aaron,


On Sonntag, 13. Dezember 2020 02:01:49 CET Aaron Mehl wrote:

>  hmn, if this is true, then why is it in the menu?Aaron

That is a UI debate and there is the other party that argues to always keep the options in the menus and disable them so that the user sees they exist but cannot use them.

Anyway, the prohibited deletion of accounts is by design and documented in https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/extragear-office/kmymoney/details.accounts.delete.html

>    On Saturday, December 12, 2020, 07:28:35 PM EST, Brendan Coupe <brendan at coupeware.com> wrote:  
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>  I don't think you can delete an account if there are any transactions in it or if its referenced anywhere else, like in a schedule.
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> On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 4:44 PM Aaron Mehl <mehlzaidy770 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Hi all,I want to delete an account. I see that in the Account menu the is a delete item. The delete item is grayed out, so I started to fish to see where and how it works. I tried right clicking the account name in the Home view pane, but there was no context menu. I when into the Accounts view pane, I highlighted an account and went into the Account menu and delete was still grayed out. I next tried to right mouse click on the account name and delete account was grayed out. 
> So, when, can I delete an account and how do I do it? This should be a task that is self explanatory as far as I can see, but I am mightily confused.Help,Aaron
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