<p dir="ltr">It was not a 100% revert.</p>
<p dir="ltr">However, I am happy we have a resource bundle system that's nearly done, which means we can start subdividing the existing presets into bundles, and then have a pack named default-pack-optimised and default-pack-quality. Then we have optimised delivered with windows, and quality with linux.</p>
<p dir="ltr">This is not about just krita being buggy, but also about getting the best experience for both sides. Going forward and improving as much as we can.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">Op 28 feb. 2015 14:10 schreef "Scott Petrovic" <<a href="mailto:scottpetrovic@gmail.com">scottpetrovic@gmail.com</a>>:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Almost 90% of all Krita users are on Windows (Google Analytics tells me this), so everything should really be tested heavily on that OS before we do any big changes that could impact performance. Was this commit just 100% reverts? Some of the original presets were unusable on Windows - which is why there were so many complaints with the 2.9 release. I tested each brush preset on Windows to make sure they were responsive with still achieving the highest quality I could get. The smudge brushes were by far the worst, but some of the pixel brushes were quite sluggish and frustrating to use as well. We cannot ignore the majority of our user base. </div><div><br></div>I think the lesson learned is that there is a big performance difference between Linux and Windows brushes - and we need to be aware of them and test accordingly. There were also additional properties added to the brush engine settings in 2.9, so I am sure that played a role with how they are performing.<div><br></div><div>Having slow default brushes makes the entire application look bad.If there are certain brushes that do not work well on Windows, but 'have' to have a certain quality, it might be best to remove those with the default installation. A separate "enhanced linux" brush pack might need to be available separately for linux users.<br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Scott</div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Timothée Giet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:animtim@gmail.com" target="_blank">animtim@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>I didn't test in 2.9 on windows, but I
had occasions to test them on pevious versions and they worked
fine, no real difference with linux, and nothing of what I changed
since then should made them slower. If some people have new
performance issues that must be some regressions, so changing
presets is not the best way to fix this.<br>
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I made some comparative tests to check before/after and restored
presets where the quality of the intended line suffer from the
changed settings, wether it was different softness, different line
continuity, or very different size...<br>
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Le 28/02/2015 11:37, Boudewijn Rempt a écrit :<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Should we have a different set on Windows and on Linux
then? Or did you test these presets on Windows, too?
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2015, Timothée Giet wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">Git commit
e10ef71355a4821a58aa6f86fbf7ccda55143d74 by Timothée Giet.
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Committed on 28/02/2015 at 09:40.
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Pushed by timotheegiet into branch 'calligra/2.9'.
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restore broken presets
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Restore some presets which intended result was broken by recent
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M +- -- krita/data/paintoppresets/Texture_fuzzy.kpp
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M +- -- krita/data/paintoppresets/ink_precision_03.kpp
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