<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:23 AM, David Revoy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davidrevoy@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidrevoy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><i>(Animtim) (by the way, I'm really missing the option to see only
presets from selected engine here as it was before, I filed a bug
about this some time ago).<br></i></blockquote></div><div><i>(Deevad)</i><i> Restricting presets by active brush engine on this carousel selector would make a lot of sens. For your and my usage. <br></i></div></div></blockquote>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><i>(Slangkamp) At some point the restriction to only the the active brush was removed from all preset widgets, not sure why though.</i></blockquote>
<div>xD I was the culprit asking for breaking the restriction back in 2010 I think. At this time, it was restricted by engine in _all_ brush preset dialog. A 'Show All' checkbox existed on the "brush preset docker". I asked for checking 'Show All' as default at startup, because I pressed this each restart , and so for productive reason. But I agree the 'caroussel/slider' brush preset selector embedded into the brush-editor would act better if showing only brush from the 'engine' selected.<br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Looks like we have gone full circle there, I just added in back in the preset strip. Not really that helpful for the pixel brush as that is still very long, but might be useful for other brushes. Please test it and see if there are any problems.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I have also added some options to hide the presets and the scratchpad. Can be found in right-click context menu.</div><div><br></div><div> So, does a breakdown action by action of a brush-editing could be summarized to this ? :</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><ol><li>select engine</li><li>panel propose existing brush-preset ( engine related )<br></li><li>pick an existing brush-preset or reset one to default</li>
<li>tweak options</li><li>edit thumbnails or paint a test in the test zone</li><li>edit name or rename</li><li>save or overwrite</li></ol></div></div></blockquote><div>Yes. If you select a preset in the other popup or docker, you save step 1-2.</div>
<div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Sven Langkamp <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sven.langkamp@gmail.com" target="_blank">sven.langkamp@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM, David Revoy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davidrevoy@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidrevoy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
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<i> mockup : <a href="http://i.imgur.com/NMzgAhY.png" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/NMzgAhY.png</a></i></blockquote></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your time commenting @Animtim, here my replies on this topic :
</div> </div><div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><i>-The preset selector row is really important for me, very useful to
compare/check several presets quickly. I would not be happy if it
gets removed. (by the way, I'm really missing the option to see only
presets from selected engine here as it was before, I filed a bug
about this some time ago).<br></i></blockquote></div><div>Ok. I have difficulties using this carousel brush selector with a stylus, so I never do. With new tag system mini-bug-or-feature ;newly created brush just jump to the end of list. The scrolling holding '>' arrow is really long.<br>
</div><div>Restricting presets by active brush engine on this carousel selector would make a lot of sens. For your and my usage.<br> <br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>If we remove it someone will request to add it back soon. We could add an option to hide it maybe. At some point the restriction to only the the active brush was removed from all preset widgets, not sure why though.</div>
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-Having the engine selector as dropdown would make one more click
and scrolling the list to switch.. I still prefer how it is now.<br></i></blockquote></div><div>Ok, I thought about it because I rarely switch engine when I configure a brush. Anyway, my drop-down list in a drop-down panel was surely not elegant. <br>
By the way, does the subcategory 'Stable' and 'Experimental' brush engine still makes sens ? I have the feeling any brush engine available now are stable.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>
Experimental is a bit useless. Originally it was there to show that these brush engines might change in the future. But I think we never really communicated that and they didn't change that much either.</div><div>
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-Name field shrinked: that's ok as long as it's still long enough
(looks ok size on the mockup)<br></i></blockquote></div><div>:-) <br></div><div><div> </div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
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-Do we really need to add a rename preset when we can already just
edit the name and save it as new? Well yes, as then we have to clean
up manually old-named presets, so it could save some manipulations
here.. So why not, if we find space for it.<br></i></blockquote></div><div>Rename would be a nice little featurette. Because sorting is driven by 0-9 + A-Z ; Renaming by creating a new and removing the old one is sure what I do since years. But it's also always risky to remove accidentally the unwanted one. Here again the "mini-bug-or-feature ;newly created brush just jump to the end of list" prevent a bit of that. I would really like a way to refresh resource without having to close and restart Krita...<br>
</div><div><div> <br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><i>
-Color field folded be default: why not, as those options are used
on very few preset cases.<br></i></blockquote></div><div>:) <br><br></div><div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><i>
-Restore icon button: yep sure this one still miss a proper icon,
it's on the todo list ;)</i></blockquote></div><div>My idea on the mockup was not to provide a static icon. But draw here the 'active' icon . Easier feedback. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div>
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The problem there is that not every image can be scaled down properly. So you could get some problem with very fine structures etc.</div><div><div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Timothée Giet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:animtim@gmail.com" target="_blank">animtim@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Le 26/09/2013 09:38, David Revoy a
écrit :<br>
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<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">5)
"Edit Brush Settings" dialog doesn't fit the wide-format
laptop screen (I guess it was a 15" laptop).<br>
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A diet mockup proposition I made this morning for the "Krita
Brush Editor" : <a href="http://i.imgur.com/NMzgAhY.png" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/NMzgAhY.png</a>
( 950x450px instead of 1115x600px ).To other artist and users
feel free to debate about this mockup here before submitting
as a wish. Would you like it ?<br>
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Hi,<br>
Some opinions about this mockup:<br>
-The preset selector row is really important for me, very useful to
compare/check several presets quickly. I would not be happy if it
gets removed. (by the way, I'm really missing the option to see only
presets from selected engine here as it was before, I filed a bug
about this some time ago).<br>
<br>
-Having the engine selector as dropdown would make one more click
and scrolling the list to switch.. I still prefer how it is now.<br>
<br>
-Name field shrinked: that's ok as long as it's still long enough
(looks ok size on the mockup)<br>
<br>
-Do we really need to add a rename preset when we can already just
edit the name and save it as new? Well yes, as then we have to clean
up manually old-named presets, so it could save some manipulations
here.. So why not, if we find space for it.<br>
<br>
-Color field folded be default: why not, as those options are used
on very few preset cases.<br>
<br>
-Restore icon button: yep sure this one still miss a proper icon,
it's on the todo list ;)<br>
<br>
<br>
Tim<br>
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