<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:06 PM, john Culleton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:John@wexfordpress.com" target="_blank">John@wexfordpress.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:53:44 +0200 (CEST)<br>
Boudewijn Rempt <<a href="mailto:boud@valdyas.org">boud@valdyas.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, Sven Langkamp wrote:<br>
><br>
> > On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 4:38 PM, john Culleton<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:John@wexfordpress.com">John@wexfordpress.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> On my Slackware 13.37 system I run the Trinity desktop which is a<br>
> >> clone of KDE 3.5. Among other advantages it allows me to run<br>
> >> Quanta Plus and frees me from the Akonadi and plasma nonsense<br>
> >> features of KDE4. However I must open a KDE4 session to run Krita.<br>
><br>
> Really? I would suspect that it would be possible to run krita under<br>
> kde 3.5 if the right libs and so are present -- at least on OpenSUSE<br>
> it's possible to run KDE 3 apps in KDE 4, so the reverse should be<br>
> possible as well.<br>
><br>
> >><br>
> >> What is the most recent version of Krita that will run under KDE<br>
> >> 3.5? (It would be nice of course if Krita was independent of KDE<br>
> >> versions but apparently that train left the station long ago.)<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Last KDE 3 version is Krita 1.6.3, but that's lightyears behind the<br>
> > current version so I wouldn't recommend to use that.<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> Trinity maintains a fork of Krita 1.6, but they renamed it when I<br>
> asked them to, since I don't want that version of Krita associated<br>
> with the name "Krita". I don't know what they renamed Krita to, when<br>
> they told me they had done it, I was satisfied and lost interest.<br>
><br>
> Boudewijn<br>
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I read some of the back and forth on the Trinity site. One point<br>
of clarification: when the other person called KDE4 developers<br>
"braindead" I assume he was referring to the developers<br>
responsible for the KDE interface, akonadi, neopemuk etc. and not<br>
application developers such as the good folks who put together<br>
Krita. I agree with him that in general KDE4 is a disaster, slow, hard to<br>
use, and loaded with features that simply get in the way. That<br>
has nothing to do with the quality of Krita.<br></blockquote><div><br>I suggest to take that with a grain of salt. There is a lot of FUD going on. Nobody has to use Akonadi or Nepomuk.<br><br>Technologically Trinity is a dead end, already five years behind.<br>
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If you visit the Internet Newsgroup comp.windows.x.kde you will<br>
find many complaints about the features of KDE4, and few if any<br>
words of praise.<br>
<br>
The closest thing I have to a decent yet modern GUI is Trinity.<br>
It will run the latest versions of Scribus, Gimp, Inkscape and so<br>
on. But not a recent version of Krita.<br></blockquote><div><br>I don't think it worth the effort to support a desktop that is dying anyway.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
I have just scratched the surface of Krita and want to learn<br>
more. At the moment I have two GUI sessions operating: on F7 I<br>
have KDE4 and on F8 I have Trinity. Perhaps the one part of KDE4<br>
I would praise is the ability to run another GUI in parallel. I<br>
still have to go through all the KDE boot nonsense first, then<br>
set up my Trinity session. But at least I can access the latest<br>
version of all the programs mentioned and still get to Krita 2.x<br>
at the press of an F key. And that makes me if not estatic<br>
at least happier.<br>
<br>
Thanks to all who responded.<br>
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